Thanks! Ive been following along your posts, been educational for me.
I have a 20 Gauge shotty, its a Turkey gun with 26" barrel but home defense shotty's are hard to find...this will hold me through until then and Ill get another one and start my collection, lol. I live in a nice area but just want to be sure my family is protected and with the election coming up you never know.
In NY Im not allowed to shoot people unless I can prove my life was in danger even if they break into my home, so this would be under the most extreme circumstances. Its unfortunate, if someone wants to steal my TV and safe Im supposed to watch them as long as they dont threaten our lives!!!!!!!!!
Nice. I am not sure I'm the one you want to be learning from yet haha - but I have been sucking up as much as I can over the past 6 months. Like anything, there are numerous opinions on how to operate, and you have to make your own decisions I guess.
I'm in MA and we have similar laws I think. The only difference I know of is the stupid law in NYC that prohibits hollow points. But if someone breaks into my house I can only use a weapon if I have first alerted them to the fact that I am armed, and second can prove that my life was in danger (meaning if I alert them and they decide to take my TV and run, I have to let them). I can, to some degree, see the logic here because if someone wants my TV it's not really worth killing them anyway. But there have to be disincentives for criminals as well.
The shotgun is good, at least in MA, because the sound of a shotgun racking is so well known that apparently it is essentially proof that you alerted them to the fact you had a weapon - so #1 is covered almost automatically in the use of the weapon itself. #2 is always going to be questioned I am sure; the mere fact they were in my house at 2 AM without permission trying to make sure my wall mounted TV was level isn't enough.
I don’t agree with the single point sling. I use a 2 point with a quick adjustment and there are various ways of using a sling that also need to be trained for. A sling is a tool and not just something to keep your gun attached to you. I keep mine strapped to the front of my body at shoulder level. In an emergency I can still draw and it’s right where it needs to be. If I know things are about to get loud I can release the tension of the sling and unwrap it from my body for more movement.
A single point sling will have the weapon dangling and bouncing all around you. It also sits low on the body. Doesn’t allow you to work well without it getting in the way.
The exception I make with single points is with my MP5. Sub guns do well with single points as they can be stashed along the side and are treated more like large pistols. My bedside MP5 has a single point, but my M4 in the closet is a 2 point.
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Interesting. This is where experience (which I don't have) is handy. I was listening to someone who seems reliable (I think the warrior poet on Youtube) and he's a big proponent of the single point sling for these types of situations because he said it is harder for someone to actually take the weapon from you, where a dual point can slip off more easily. I'm sure levels of training come into play here as well - someone who is good with a dual point sling may be able to do things you just can't do with a single point, but if you're not really good with either, maybe that benefit is enough? I don't know. I'm just parroting I guess.
Hop on gunbroker and see if you can find something there. Then just ship it to your FFL.
As for the home defense scenario, my LEO family will tell you that if you have to shoot someone in your home, make sure when the police arrive there is only 1 report to take.
Yes, I've heard this same thing. Always empty the mag and make sure the police have one story to listen to. Of course then the family will say, "Why did he get shot 10 times!?"
I think we’re on the same page with Biden. Bernie saying Biden is progressive doesn’t mean he is progressive. His criminal bills for example are far from progressive. I highly, highly doubt an 800 year old fossil with memory issues is all of a sudden going to change his policies and become Mr. Progressive.
I don’t carry to work here and I didn’t in Houston, either. I don’t do criminal law or family law and feel comfortable around my clients. The town I live in is pretty safe too. I lived in third ward in Houston for a while and never had any issues. So I’ve never gotten my CCL. But, I do own guns (I’m in Texas after all).
Also, if I’m going somewhere sketchy, I do carry in my car. As long as it’s hidden from plain view (glovebox) it’s legal here. And I’ve gone into Deliverance territory a few times
Haha - a Texan, enough said! lol. In MA you really aren't supposed to leave a gun in your car. There is a story about a guy going into a Walmart and he took his pistol out and put it in a safe in his trunk. Apparently another customer in the parking lot saw him do this, called the cops, and when he returned to his car he was arrested and his gun taken. I think you can leave an unloaded rifle in your car if it is secured though.
Actually, I also recently learned that you can't even have ammo on you in public if you're not licensed, which I think is problematic. How do you deal with a UPS driver delivering a box of ammo? I don't think they enforce it though unless you're in violation of some other gun law - I just learned this because a guy a couple towns over got pulled for an expired registration and they found an unmarked gun with an illegal 17-round magazine in it and he wasn't licensed to carry.
Basically the idea is that the weapon should be under your control and on your person at all times while in public. So if I put it under my front seat and I get pulled over - I'm in trouble. It's supposed to be on my body.
And if my gf uses my gun to defend herself at home, I'm in deep shizzle because she is not licensed to carry and that gun was not under the control of a licensed individual.
Some of the mentality around the laws I can understand and think are just responsible gun ownership, but they take it too far. Back in the day, only criminals concealed their weapons, but now I can understand that it is better to conceal. People freak out if you have a knife and if they see you with a gun they are going to REALLY freak. The sheep are better off not knowing what is going on around them. And like you guys have mentioned, I am happy their are other law abiding citizens in my state getting their LTC and taking that responsibility on themselves like I have. I hope to never have to use it, but I also hope that if that day comes I am ready and able to defend myself, my family and other innocent people.
