11kt, 3AD and Epiandro question

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I haven't been lifting for many months and I managed to get some fat in that time haha. Anyway, I have been exercising back and was thinking of running a cutter and something of a bulker too. But I don't want to run anything too harsh with over dramatic results of 22lbs in 4 weeks or something lol.

So I got 11kt for cutting. I'd rather run something that gives me an edge but not too crazy too fast but works and builds muscle. I'm not a newbie by the way, just got lazy with no workouts.

11kt is fine for cutting and I like it. Would you guys recommend running Epi with this alongside 3AD?

If I run a TD Epi, I am assuming I may have to high dose it for mass effect or maybe it is pointless doing that. I don't mind the temporary shut down, just nothing that wrecks lipids too much and with dramatic results.

I have half a bottle of 3AD left. By the way, I'm only looking at transdermals, I really don't want to take harsh orals. Harsh orals wreck lipids, minimal wrecking is what I want. 3AD will be the only oral, not harsh, I really dig it.

What do you guys recommend to achieve what I am trying to do? Or is it hopeless?
 
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I agree and understand that you dont want to take orals (especially c 17 aa's)

This stack i cant comment on completely, but i was disappointed in 11 kt transdermal, aggression and irritability with very minimal strength gains, talking few reps here and there.

I got shut down and felt lethargic, needed clomid for pct.


Also, you need sth that sromatizes, sth "wet". Dermacrine, 4 andro, something.


If you want to run sth that clears quickly, short estered test like prop is also a good idea. I seem to suggesting test prop lately because its really what i would do if i wanted to run sth for 4-6 weeks that will minimally impact my health markers (as little as possible for running anything anabolic), but will give me good gains.

Pct should be a breeze after such a short cycle.



If you are afraid of being shut down, pct etc then peptides, gh or mk677 are an option.
 

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I agree and understand that you dont want to take orals (especially c 17 aa's)

This stack i cant comment on completely, but i was disappointed in 11 kt transdermal, aggression and irritability with very minimal strength gains, talking few reps here and there.

I got shut down and felt lethargic, needed clomid for pct.


Also, you need sth that sromatizes, sth "wet". Dermacrine, 4 andro, something.


If you want to run sth that clears quickly, short estered test like prop is also a good idea. I seem to suggesting test prop lately because its really what i would do if i wanted to run sth for 4-6 weeks that will minimally impact my health markers (as little as possible for running anything anabolic), but will give me good gains.

Pct should be a breeze after such a short cycle.



If you are afraid of being shut down, pct etc then peptides, gh or mk677 are an option.
Yeah, I have Dermacrine. I'll add Test Prop to my list of final considerations. I am also thinking of something like Iconic Form. Alpha 4 or Alpha 7
 

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