good stack for clearing excess histamine?

[faxmulder]

Hi guys,

I’d like to do a trial with iodine, since I’ve seen that it could help with clearing histamine and some symptoms that I believe are related to hypo, i.e. brain fog, dry skin and cold hands.

Is supplementing with kelp a good idea? It has 150mcg iodine. With that dosage is it necessary to take iodine cofactors, i.e. B complex, vit C, magnesium and selenium?

I was thinking about trying the following stack for boosting thyroid and decreasing histamine: kelp, PEA (PalmitoylEthanolAmide), vit B6 P5P, MSM, theanine, quercetin and maybe ashwagandha.

As a side note, do you guys have any experience in using CDP Choline for clearing histamine?

I know that copper is essential for breaking down histamine, but I’m concerned about potential side effects at dosages above 2mg.

Thanks!

 

[cheftepesh1]

Things to decrease histamines that I have used, since I have urticaria which is a histamine driven autoimmune issue.

Rosemary
Stinging Nettle
Vitamin C
Bromelein
Aloe

All have had some effect.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how about an antihistamine?

 

[cheftepesh1]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how about an antihistamine?

I’m assuming he is looking for something in conjunction.

 

[faxmulder]

I’m assuming he is looking for something in conjunction.

Exactly.

in addition, I’d prefer to not take the antihistamine the whole year and find also a “natural” help. Now I’m using it both for hay fever but also for controlling itching caused by autoimmmune skin disease (lichen on scalp).
Thanks

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Exactly.

in addition, I’d prefer to not take the antihistamine the whole year and find also a “natural” help. Now I’m using it both for hay fever but also for controlling itching caused by autoimmmune skin disease (lichen on scalp).
Thanks

Why do you not want to use an antihistamine year round? Modern antihistamines are very well tolerated and non-drowsy. And probably a lot cheaper and more effective than a whole stack of supplements that hopefully would work close to as well. Natural doesn’t inherently mean better/safer, and pharmaceutical doesn’t inherently mean worse/unsafe.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Exactly.

in addition, I’d prefer to not take the antihistamine the whole year and find also a “natural” help. Now I’m using it both for hay fever but also for controlling itching caused by autoimmmune skin disease (lichen on scalp).
Thanks

Why do you not want to use an antihistamine year round? Modern antihistamines are very well tolerated and non-drowsy. And probably a lot cheaper and more effective than a whole stack of supplements that hopefully would work close to as well. Natural doesn’t inherently mean better/safer, and pharmaceutical doesn’t inherently mean worse/unsafe.

 

[jarrellt67]

Why do you not want to use an antihistamine year round? Modern antihistamines are very well tolerated and non-drowsy. And probably a lot cheaper and more effective than a whole stack of supplements that hopefully would work close to as well. Natural doesn’t inherently mean better/safer, and pharmaceutical doesn’t inherently mean worse/unsafe.

From personal experience I have to disagree with the non-drowsy statement. Even those (claritin, allegra, and especially zyrtec) make me very drowsy. Not as bad as benadryl or Unisom, but still very drowsy (also kind of a brain fog/zombie feeling). However, they are significantly more effective and much cheaper than "natural" alternatives.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

From personal experience I have to disagree with the non-drowsy statement. Even those (claritin, allegra, and especially zyrtec) make me very drowsy. Not as bad as benadryl or Unisom, but still very drowsy (also kind of a brain fog/zombie feeling).

YMMV, as with literally everything. For most people, they are largely non-drowsy. I know even a little drowsiness beats severe allergies though. Like I can’t even breathe when I’m around a lot of cats, but loratadine makes it almost normal.

 

[jarrellt67]

YMMV, as with literally everything. For most people, they are largely non-drowsy. I know even a little drowsiness beats severe allergies though. Like I can’t even breathe when I’m around a lot of cats, but loratadine makes it almost normal.

Agree. They also seem to work really well (for me at least) as a cheap antianxiety supplement (it's worth the drowsiness at times if I'm really stressed/nervous about something or experiencing excessive irritability or anger).

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I have pretty bad urticaria which developed roughly 10 years after my Ulcerative Colitis.

The most effective, long lasting solution with zero side effects for me, is 1mg ketotifen before bed.

A “natural” solution isn’t inherently better or safer to be frank. In fact antihistamines are one of the most studied classes of drugs.

 

[faxmulder]

thanks to all, so it seems that antihistamine all year could be nevertheless a good solution.
Do you think it is necessary to counter balance their activity with any supplement, e.g. choline, in order to not have side effects after prolonged use?