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Stim free pump formula

BeardedBreast

BeardedBreast

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been a while since I've taken a pre workout pump supp that had me vascular like Thor's cock.

Need one that's stim free
 
I’d look at super swole by cel or high volume by pes! Both great pre workout products that are stim free.
 
Pump Agents (Non-Stim) ---

Build Fast Formula VasoBlitz
Nutrex Outlift (Stim-Free)
PES High Volume
Nutrex Alpha Pump
Olympus Lyfestyle No Mercy
CEL VasoForce XT
Ghost Pump
Morphogen Volugen or Morphopump

These would all be very good products
 
PerforMax Labs VasoMax and
BuildFast VasoBlitz are the best non-stim pre-workouts in my opinion. A slight edge to VasoMax for the added nootropic blend.
 
Gorilla Mode Nitric. On my fourth tub now and doesn’t disappoint. This will be my rotate with Super Swole.
 
CEL SuperSwole or VasoForceXT if you prefer pills
 
BeardedBreast said:
been a while since I've taken a pre workout pump supp that had me vascular like Thor's cock.

Need one that's stim free
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SNS Vaso6 (caps) are super convenient; For even more though, VasoforceXT has a few ingredients, still in caps too
CEL Super Swole is absolutely packed and will be one of the best you can find (typically on sale too)
 
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MA-PUMP

"Stimulant-Free Pre-workout"

MASSIVE SALE!!!




Ingredients Profile...

Citrulline Malate: 8 grams
HydroMax: 5 grams
Sodium Nitrate: 1.5 grams
Nitrosigine: 1 gram
CAPROS: 250 mg
Creatine Monhydrate: 4 grams
Betaine Anhydrous: 3 grams
Taurine: 2 grams


I'm having a huge sale on MA-PUMP in the next day or two. The post-discount total will be only $28. That is literally HALF the price of its original selling point. I am blowing the remainder of my stock out, as it is going to be replaced by an upcoming pre-workout (it will be out soon).

Note: MA-PUMP is clumpy as all hell. It is the the 5 grams of HydroMax that causes that. It doesn't harm the effectiveness or taste of the product (it tastes good), but it is damn clumpy.

Good luck finding a better pump product on the market for $28 dollars! :)​
 
Road to a PUMP!!!​


There's really only 2 main pathways to a pump, via supplementation. These are the nitric oxide pathway (via the L-Arginine-eNOS-Nitric Oxide Pathway and Nitrate-Nitrite Nitric Oxide Pathway) and through Plasma Expansion (i.e. glycerol).

Therefore, if you want the best pump possible, you need to maximize these pathways. No company...and I mean NO company comes anywhere close to maximizing the plasma expansion pathway. Several companies have come close to optimizing the nitric oxide pathway. All it requires to optimize the nitric oxide pathway is a whopping dose of citrulline with a big dose of nitrates...or a massive dose of nitrates alone. In fact, it is possible to over-do the nitric oxide pathway....to the point of death. You can't do this through the arginine eNOS pathway (it strikes a ceiling once you hit 15 grams of citrulline), but you can through the the nitrate-nitrite pathway. For example, if you overdose on Nitrogylcerin ( prescription nitrite drug) you can drop your BP so low you that could die.

So, it is easily possible to optimize the eNOS pathway with supplementation. No supplement companies have done it yet, but some have come very close.

In order to optimize the plasma expansion pathway you need like 100's of grams of glycerol at once...in the form of GlycerPump, HydroMax, etc. The Plasma expansion pathway has the greatest potential for pumps...more than the nitric oxide pathway because you are actually increasing blood volume. Nitric oxide boosters only dilate the blood vessels. They don't increase blood volume. The best results are achieved when both pathways are optimized.

Look at MA-PUMP. It contains 1.5 grams sodium nitrate and 8 grams citrulline malate. I don't think there is another product on the market which activates the eNOS pathway more than that, but there are a few that equal it.

The highest dose of GlycerPump (same thing as HydroMax, but it clumps less) on the market today is 5 grams, I believe. MA-PUMP contains that dose, but even that dose doesn't come anywhere close to optimizing the plasma expansion pathway.

I am releasing two more Pre's. One is very comprehensive (stims, pump agents, muscle volumizers, performance agents, growth & recovery agents, etc.). I think it is the best comprehensive Pre on the market.

The other one, which will be released after the comprehensive Pre, focuses on just two facets of the Pre-workout game--Stimulation and Pumps. It will be a stim-heavy product with the highest dose of GlycerPump ever seen in a product (by several-fold), along with a massive dose of Nitric oxide boosters! It will be, BY FAR, the best pump-enhancing, stim-based Pre on the market...guaranteed! It doesn't have any growth or recovery agents, but if you are looking for stimulation and pumps, this product surpasses all!

You will know this is the truth when you see it!
 
Mike Arnold said:
MA-PUMP

"Stimulant-Free Pre-workout"

MASSIVE SALE!!!




Ingredients Profile...

Citrulline Malate: 8 grams
HydroMax: 5 grams
Sodium Nitrate: 1.5 grams
Nitrosigine: 1 gram
CAPROS: 250 mg
Creatine Monhydrate: 4 grams
Betaine Anhydrous: 3 grams
Taurine: 2 grams


I'm having a huge sale on MA-PUMP in the next day or two. The post-discount total will be only $28. That is literally HALF the price of its original selling point. I am blowing the remainder of my stock out, as it is going to be replaced by an upcoming pre-workout (it will be out soon).

Note: MA-PUMP is clumpy as all hell. It is the the 5 grams of HydroMax that causes that. It doesn't harm the effectiveness or taste of the product (it tastes good), but it is damn clumpy.

Good luck finding a better pump product on the market for $28 dollars! :)​
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Is there a code for that? $43 on site
 
diesel x said:
Gorilla Mode Nitric

the strongest pump product on the market hands down
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That is strong. However, they should remove the Agmatine. Why? Citrulline works through the eNOS pathway, while agmatine works by suppressing the eNOS pathway...which leads to a rebound effect. So, the two should never be combined. They cancel each other out.

Citrulline has far greater NO boosting potential than agmatine, so citrulline should always be chosen over agmatine, when possible. I see no reason to ever use agmatine for pumps...unless that is all one has and is using it solo...or with nitrates, as agmatine doesn't interfere with nitrates because they work through different pathways.

The main point--NEVER combine agmatine with nitric oxide boosters that work through the eNOS pathway, such as citrulline.
 
Mike Arnold said:
That is strong. However, they should remove the Agmatine. Why? Citrulline works through the eNOS pathway, while agmatine works by suppressing the eNOS pathway...which leads to a rebound effect. So, the two should never be combined. They cancel each other out.

Citrulline has far greater NO boosting potential than agmatine, so citrulline should always be chosen over agmatine, when possible. I see no reason to ever use agmatine for pumps...unless that is all one has and is using it solo...or with nitrates, as agmatine doesn't interfere with nitrates because they work through different pathways.

The main point--NEVER combine agmatine with nitric oxide boosters that work through the eNOS pathway, such as citrulline.
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more plates more dates made video explaining this product and breaking down each ingredient with studies and how they all work together you should watch it
 
diesel x said:
more plates more dates made video explaining this product and breaking down each ingredient with studies and how they all work together you should watch it
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Link to video? What Mike is saying on paper is accurate but I always take Agmatine and Citrulline together so either I'm lucky since the pumps are amazing or something else is going on..
 
DieselNY said:
Link to video? What Mike is saying on paper is accurate but I always take Agmatine and Citrulline together so either I'm lucky since the pumps are amazing or something else is going on..
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I’m the same way. I stopped using agmatine with citrulline Once mike posted about them canceling each other out. Once I added them both back in together noticed quite an improvement over citrulline alone. Mike any thoughts on why this might be?
 
DieselNY said:
Link to video? What Mike is saying on paper is accurate but I always take Agmatine and Citrulline together so either I'm lucky since the pumps are amazing or something else is going on..
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this guy is a genius when it comes to PEDs and supps I highly recommend his videos
 
Mike Arnold said:
That is strong. However, they should remove the Agmatine. Why? Citrulline works through the eNOS pathway, while agmatine works by suppressing the eNOS pathway...which leads to a rebound effect. So, the two should never be combined. They cancel each other out.

Citrulline has far greater NO boosting potential than agmatine, so citrulline should always be chosen over agmatine, when possible. I see no reason to ever use agmatine for pumps...unless that is all one has and is using it solo...or with nitrates, as agmatine doesn't interfere with nitrates because they work through different pathways.

The main point--NEVER combine agmatine with nitric oxide boosters that work through the eNOS pathway, such as citrulline.
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Never knew that about agmatine. Thanks for the info!
 
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