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Setting up a cutting stack

Sss23

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So after doing some research and getting some feedback from members I've narrowed it down to a few options. My goal is to cut aka lose fat and put on some muscle.

Considering running: Super Mandro 8 weeks at 330mg(1-andro product), Epiandro 12 weeks (either CEL Stanoplex (600mg) or Stanogen (300mg since topical), and R andro Shred 300mg for 12 weeks.

Other considerations to add/replace something are: Iconic one (but i Think this is the same thing as Super mandro), dermarcine, or XI-KT by Iron legion- I couldn't find a ton of logs on this though maybe I wasn't looking in the right place.

Let me know if you think I'm running something not useful for cutting. Or if my cycle/dosages are off since I'm new to the DHEA derivative gameNot trying to bulk up. Thanks everyone! Will follow with a legit serm pct
 
icon one is 1 andro + dermacrine. there are tons of threads about XI-KT...TRY THE SEARCH FUNCTION-upper right hand corner.
 
Sss23 said:
Hmm so maybe should I run that instead of Super Mandro?
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I would suggest a test base with 1andro, many people use dermacrine---and since icon one is both...!!!
 
thebigt said:
lol...I've been on trt for 12 YEARS without hcg….
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Doesnt sound like he wants to be on trt

Im just a noob but a wise man on here once said beyond 8 weeks hcg should be mandatory and i agree after trying it

Just ran xi-kt last month and didnt notice anything from it

Its all supressive personally i wouldnt run something like that ever again but im sure some wiser members will chime in with ideas soon
 
benjamfzb said:
Doesnt sound like he wants to be on trt

Im just a noob but a wise man on here once said beyond 8 weeks hcg should be mandatory and i agree after trying it

Just ran xi-kt last month and didnt notice anything from it

Its all supressive personally i wouldnt run something like that ever again but im sure some wiser members will chime in with ideas soon
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fair enough, if i were running the kind of cycle you are running for the length of time you are running it for I would run hcg also.....but the man is talking about running a legal ph cycle, and I wouldn't recommend he go past 8 weeks..
 
benjamfzb said:
Doesnt sound like he wants to be on trt

Im just a noob but a wise man on here once said beyond 8 weeks hcg should be mandatory and i agree after trying it

Just ran xi-kt last month and didnt notice anything from it

Its all supressive personally i wouldnt run something like that ever again but im sure some wiser members will chime in with ideas soon
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I agree hcg on a 12 week cycle is a decent idea but I don’t think it’s essential. It should form part of the pct if not run through the cycle (for optimal chances to bounce back) imo.

I think there is a couple of ways to skin that cat.

the risk is trt is a tricky one. It’s absolutely not set in stone that you end up on it if you don’t do x y z etc, many many guys run gear for a few years, stop with no pct and are fine. Then there are guys who do one cycle with perfect supports and plans but don’t bounce back.

generally my view is that cycling will typically lower your natural production over the years so if you keep doing it eventually you do end up there but If you stop for long periods (years) your natural production does improve again. Just my 2 cents anyway
 
thebigt said:
I would suggest a test base with 1andro, many people use dermacrine---and since icon one is both...!!!
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Definitely agreed with picking up a base. Dermacrine is good. You could think about stacking super mandro and andro the giant together. A lot of past logs on that stack with good success.
 
How did I know as soon as I clicked this it was going to be a bunch of OTC test boosters and PH's.


Lmao, never change, AM.
 
You must need a bigger dose of 11KT the stuff is the bomb for weight loss. I told you there is a stack on sale from Apex that has a strong AI included with the 11KT. that combo will strip the fat off with proper diet and excersize
 
HCG is best used on all cycles that suppress you past the 95%, where you basically have zero LH and your balls shutdown. This is one of the keys of healthy cycling imo. There is just no good reason not to use it except laziness. Degradation of leydig cells will be much worse over time, if your balls continuously get shutdown due to cycling compared to keeping them running all the time.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
You must need a bigger dose of 11KT the stuff is the bomb for weight loss. I told you there is a stack on sale from Apex that has a strong AI included with the 11KT. that combo will strip the fat off with proper diet and excersize
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Can get legit AI's so don't need OTC AI but may look further into the 11KT. thanks
 
haha no, not coming at you! I appreciate all your insight. I was just saying if I was to run an AI I would just run Exemestane or something like that. Unless 6-oxo has other benefits I don't know about but thought it was mostly an AI. Sorry if I came off like a dick
 
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