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What can be expected from dmz at 60 or msten at 40

Well don’t stack both at that dose. I run msten at 40 but most wont. What’s your height, weight, and lifts? If you don’t have much experience it would be a waste and should start lower.
 
Dmz60? Ive done it and even tho it’s high it’s manageable. Didn’t see more gains than 45, just more sides. Msten at 40??? You’re going to feel like you want to die and end it all. It’s going to be an absolute shitshow. Msten 20-24 is the sweet spot.. some run it at 30mg but that’s high man.. not even sure it’ll yield more gains.
 
Mathb33 said:
Dmz60? Ive done it and even tho it’s high it’s manageable. Didn’t see more gains than 45, just more sides. Msten at 40??? You’re going to feel like you want to die and end it all. It’s going to be an absolute shitshow. Msten 20-24 is the sweet spot.. some run it at 30mg but that’s high man.. not even sure it’ll yield more gains.
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LOLLL **** maybe I should do 45 20
 
But what’s typically expected from msten by itself at max dose I’ve read like every link to a forum on google
 
Irritability, depression, toxic feeling, no appitate, and a lot of gains if you can actually eat which will be harder than you think and only gets harder.
 
Holy ****. I woke up today and my hair is shedding like fucking crazy. Msten is NOT happening. Holy f

The fuckin idiot in me wants to blaze through this still possibly. But I swear I’d go bald in three weeks
 
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Rad83 said:
Whose msten product you running right now?

You mighta just put me off it with this alarming hair loss...
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VL, I ran it from a different brand before too on top of anadrol and I had raw anadrol before those tablets and no shedding so I figured the raws were bunk and the tabs were real good but now I’m thinking it’s the Sten. I’m not sure but I do feel this shits seriously androgenic regardless of the AA rating
 
lvft1213 said:
VL, I ran it from a different brand before too on top of anadrol and I had raw anadrol before those tablets and no shedding so I figured the raws were bunk and the tabs were real good but now I’m thinking it’s the Sten. I’m not sure but I do feel this shits seriously androgenic regardless of the AA rating
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It didn't seem overtly Androgenic to me. ... But that doesn't mean it couldn't cause shredding (in some).
I lost the ability to detect shedding in myself years ago when I started shaving my head.
 
Renew1 said:
It didn't seem overtly Androgenic to me. ... But that doesn't mean it couldn't cause shredding (in some).
I lost the ability to detect shedding in myself years ago when I started shaving my head.
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Yeah it makes me very aggressive and libido spike which Is why I think it’s so androgenic
 
In the past 3-6 weeks I’ve hit 40lbs on squat 20 lbs on incline maybe 30, 20 on flys, 10 or 15 on flat, 15-20 on close grip
I can’t even fuckin keep track anymore

This is why I love designers.
Drol does not do this for me: not ana nor super
 
lvft1213 said:
In the past 3-6 weeks I’ve hit 40lbs on squat 20 lbs on incline maybe 30, 20 on flys, 10 or 15 on flat, 15-20 on close grip
I can’t even fuckin keep track anymore

This is why I love designers.
Drol does not do this for me: not ana nor super
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How long have you been on this cycle?

Anavar gives me impressive strength gains.
 
Renew1 said:
How long have you been on this cycle?

Anavar gives me impressive strength gains.
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3 weeks or so a tiny amount of dmz with M1a at 50. Then I dropped M1a to throw in dmz and msten and higher doses. Transformed this cycle honestly, I’ve had two people come up to me and ask how to get big and just heard some dude say I’m tryna get like that.

I am NOT big lol I’m sure most of y’all make me look small I’m like 195 at 15 percent or so. This cycle just tells me it doesn’t take a **** ton of injectable to get gains. I think I might do short designer oral cycles from now on. This has been like my first cycle
 
lvft1213 said:
3 weeks or so a tiny amount of dmz with M1a at 50. Then I dropped M1a to throw in dmz and msten and higher doses. Transformed this cycle honestly, I’ve had two people come up to me and ask how to get big and just heard some dude say I’m tryna get like that.

I am NOT big lol I’m sure most of y’all make me look small I’m like 195 at 15 percent or so. This cycle just tells me it doesn’t take a **** ton of injectable to get gains. I think I might do short designer oral cycles from now on. This has been like my first cycle
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This all sounds great bro!

Keep in mind, the ‘General public’ isn’t in to freaks etc lol ...A lean 195 is impressive

The amount of time I see people that lift outside of the gym,...isn’t thaaat often, unless it’s a night out on the town or some
Shitt
 
Rad83 said:
This all sounds great bro!

Keep in mind, the ‘General public’ isn’t in to freaks etc lol ...A lean 195 is impressive

The amount of time I see people that lift outside of the gym,...isn’t thaaat often, unless it’s a night out on the town or some
Shitt
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Lol yeah that’s why it’s funny because the general public sees me as lean and fairly decent sized and By bodybuilding standards I’m fat and small 😂
 
Well apparently I curl 60s now strict form for 5 2 sets idk about 3

this is legit the three strongest compounds I’ve ever taken. Now tren I can’t compare cuz I wasn’t even eating on that ****
I was stuck at 50s for a year man

god I fucking love this ****
 
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lvft1213 said:
Well apparently I curl 60s now strict form for 5 2 sets idk about 3

this is legit the three strongest compounds I’ve ever taken. Now tren I can’t compare cuz I wasn’t even eating on that ****
I was stuck at 50s for a year man

god I fucking love this ****
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That alpha one is great for strength gains and size
 
lvft1213 said:
60 40, dying but ima stick it through
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Completly unacessary especially the msten. You’re being extremely greedy thinking more is more when it usually is but there is a spot where it’s not. You’re simply harming yourself for exactly 0 more gains than let’s say 45/24 would give you. A zerrrrrooo more gains
 
Jesus Msten at 40!!!??? How do you feel?

I've just fished Msten at 20mg for 4 weeks. Stacked it will Epistane at 20mg. Continuing on Epi for another 2 weeks. My first time running Sten, and if stacked again I wouldn't want to go above 20mg. At 4 weeks I was ready to come off. Great gains etc, but I do feel if I upped the dosage I would of started getting bad sides. At 20mg, It felt like I was teetering just under the sides mark. I also feel any longer than 4 weeks would of brought on the sides too. For me 20mg, 4 weeks, sweet spot, job done.
 
Mathb33 said:
Completly unacessary especially the msten. You’re being extremely greedy thinking more is more when it usually is but there is a spot where it’s not. You’re simply harming yourself for exactly 0 more gains than let’s say 45/24 would give you. A zerrrrrooo more gains
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This is a reoccurring problem regarding oral doses lol but with methylstenbolone I was really looking for something to blow me up 20lbs along with my diet I want to hit 30 lbs on squat in this cycle so I’m just trying to go hard it’s basically a if I can eat ill do it if I can’t the dose is dropping thing
 
Scouse01 said:
Jesus Msten at 40!!!??? How do you feel?

I've just fished Msten at 20mg for 4 weeks. Stacked it will Epistane at 20mg. Continuing on Epi for another 2 weeks. My first time running Sten, and if stacked again I wouldn't want to go above 20mg. At 4 weeks I was ready to come off. Great gains etc, but I do feel if I upped the dosage I would of started getting bad sides. At 20mg, It felt like I was teetering just under the sides mark. I also feel any longer than 4 weeks would of brought on the sides too. For me 20mg, 4 weeks, sweet spot, job done.
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I’m basically extremely tired unless I eat and take nac
 
This **** is thinning my hair horribly I’m dropping the msten. Save it for the future maybe. Nothing has ever had such a dramatic effect on my gair
 
lvft1213 said:
This **** is thinning my hair horribly I’m dropping the msten. Save it for the future maybe. Nothing has ever had such a dramatic effect on my gair
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You can keep on ignoring my comments because it’s not what you wanna hear but you’re running DHTs at an absurd fucking dose brother. It’s extremely toxic and pointless and from what you’re saying you are genetically prone to baldness so yeah running two DHTs might be a
Bad idea... especially msten at freaking 40mg...
 
Mathb33 said:
You can keep on ignoring my comments because it’s not what you wanna hear but you’re running DHTs at an absurd fucking dose brother. It’s extremely toxic and pointless and from what you’re saying you are genetically prone to baldness so yeah running two DHTs might be a
Bad idea... especially msten at freaking 40mg...
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Wasn’t ignoring your comments bro I thought I responded to them and yeah well speaking of dhts superdrol doesn’t effect hair but dbol will eat it up so I think it’s compound specific, and I dropped the msten to 30 previously
 
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