Ive been on MK677 everyday for 3 years straight

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i have been using 20-25mg mk677 everyday for close to 3 years straight now
in the begining i was hungry and i couldnt sleep when i took it at night
now i take 12.5mg in the morning and 12.5mg pre workout later in the day
i have no side effects that i think is negative imo atm.

i have never taken anything else strong like sarms/ph or steroids.. ive only used mk677 and mk677 vs being natural is night and day. i use mk677 and nothing else because i wanna use something i dont need to cycle on and off.

is there something i should be worried about after using mk677 for 3 years straight no basicly no break? i havent noticed any negative side effects and im still getting great gains.. i havent noticed anything bad happen but i dont wanna be ignorant if some negative side effects are gonna hit me one day
(i really dont wanna stop using mk677, obviously)
 
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i have been using 20-25mg mk677 everyday for close to 3 years straight now
in the begining i was hungry and i couldnt sleep when i took it at night
now i take 12.5mg in the morning and 12.5mg pre workout later in the day
i have no side effects that i think is negative imo atm.

i have never taken anything else strong like sarms/ph or steroids.. ive only used mk677 and mk677 vs being natural is night and day. i use mk677 and nothing else because i wanna use something i dont need to cycle on and off.

is there something i should be worried about after using mk677 for 3 years straight no basicly no break? i havent noticed any negative side effects and im still getting great gains.. i havent noticed anything bad happen but i dont wanna be ignorant if some negative side effects are gonna hit me one day
(i really dont wanna stop using mk677, obviously)
While I’ve not heard of anyone running it that long, I don’t know that there would be an issue. Personally the increased appetite almost killed me but I’m a fatty by nature and am always down to eat. It also made me hold a crap ton of water. But if you’re not experiencing any sides and bloodwork is good, I don’t know why you need to stop.
 

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I have been using it for 5 weeks now lol.

Getting to fall alleep is unaffected however i tend to sleep a little bit longer and feel more refreshed upon waking (less of an "i feel like sh1t" feeling, feeling reminds of me being 18 and feeling good everytime i woke up).

Hunger is there, but seriously, it aint issue at all if you have self-control. Plus to that, the metabolism increases so you can eat a bit more and not gain.
I however, eat much more and dont gain, and in fact am getting leaner.

For a period of time i was experiencing lethargy but i started using a glucose disposal agent i am not experiencing severe lethargy and dream like states during the day anymore.

As i already said, i would compare the gains to being on a replacement dose of test or being an intermediate natty on a large calorie surplus.
 
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I tried mk6 for the first time last night, 20mg at 6pm. I noticed appetite increase in about an hour and a bit of a drowsy feeling by 8pm but that could have been from the large meal. I don't have an expected end time for it, i just want to see what it does for me since i am taking nothing else currently.
 
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I tried mk6 for the first time last night, 20mg at 6pm. I noticed appetite increase in about an hour and a bit of a drowsy feeling by 8pm but that could have been from the large meal. I don't have an expected end time for it, i just want to see what it does for me since i am taking nothing else currently.

the extreme hunger etc only last for a couple weeks

sleep is always good
 

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Lots of talk about it losing its effectiveness. Some say very quickly. I would cycle on and off personally.
 
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Lots of talk about it losing its effectiveness. Some say very quickly. I would cycle on and off personally.
The problem is that a lot of talk comes from people who've never used it. The science of some things on paper are only valuable if the results are replicable in a noticeable manner by the ones using it.
 
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Has it had any impact on lipids? I’ve seen someone on what was labeled to be MK go in for their annual bloods with LDL and total cholesterol through the roof along with moderate increases in BP
 
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I've been running it since 2015 on a 5 day on, 2 day off regimen. I run full bloodwork twice a year and letting you all know it doesn't affect hormone levels, insulin resistance or lipids.
 

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Has it had any impact on lipids? I’ve seen someone on what was labeled to be MK go in for their annual bloods with LDL and total cholesterol through the roof along with moderate increases in BP
I cant see how it could do that.
 
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I've been running it since 2015 on a 5 day on, 2 day off regimen. I run full bloodwork twice a year and letting you all know it doesn't affect hormone levels, insulin resistance or lipids.
OP isn't taking 40% of time off. He's 100% on.
 

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However i had some people tell me it increased their blood glucose levels, even into the prediabetic range, @City Boy

I am going to play it safe and take a glucose disposal agent (a mix of ceylon cinnamon extract, chromium and alpha lipoic acid).

I cant say for sure that it is the glucose disposal agent, but i dont suffer from lethargy anymore since i have been incorporating it.
 
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With a 24hr halflife, i would think that even 5 on 2 off, you would technically always be on.
That would mean that Goodvibes, and everyone else who follows that dosing schedule is accomplishing nothing, right?
No, I really believe there is a reason for that schedule.
 
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i read on this forum years ago that the 5 days on 2 days off cycle method was debunked and you might aswell just use it everyday

edit: +cycling 5 days on 2 days off would make the positives worse because you need to use mk677 for a long time to get the maxiumum effect
 
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It would be close to impossible to convince me that a 100% on schedule and a 60% on schedule would have the same (side) effects.
the general consensus on this forum years ago was that 2 days off is not a long enough break to make any diffrence and cycling it that way would ruin the benefits
 
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That would mean that Goodvibes, and everyone else who follows that dosing schedule is accomplishing nothing, right?
No, I really believe there is a reason for that schedule.
I understand the reasoning for dosing that way but it does build up in your system so on days 6 and 7, you have lower levels but it's still substantial enough to be considered on it. 5 on 2 off is approximately 72 percent of the time.
 
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I understand the reasoning for dosing that way but it does build up in your system so on days 6 and 7, you have lower levels but it's still substantial enough to be considered on it. 5 on 2 off is approximately 72 percent of the time.
Oops, it is approx 71%. But (almost) a 29% reduction in compound would definitely change things. ....for you guys, not for me (as I don't use it ... At least currently).
 
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Insulin resistance as mentioned above is the only negative side from long term use Ive seen any evidence of.

berberine and/or metforim address that issue (these are two compounds worthy of being taken anyway imho) though.

I’ve used mk for over a year, then took 6 months off (really just because I don’t like continually taking any substance like that continually) and started again 3 months back. I do hold a lot of water on it but my joints feel great and I definitely noticed the difference not taking it
 
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Op have you noticed any GH sides such as facial bone growth, bigger hands, feet and head etc?
 
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To all, effects doesn't diminish with a 2 day break in comparison to 7 days on. With that said I really do it for savings, the compound is quite expensive and I save money with this dosing scheme. And yes if I'm off it for more than a month I'd see a drop in performance and strength.

My sources are top notch so I'd say that's the big reason why I dont encounter the inconsistent sides others are reporting. I test all my raws prior to administration.
 

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However i had some people tell me it increased their blood glucose levels, even into the prediabetic range, @City Boy

I am going to play it safe and take a glucose disposal agent (a mix of ceylon cinnamon extract, chromium and alpha lipoic acid).

I cant say for sure that it is the glucose disposal agent, but i dont suffer from lethargy anymore since i have been incorporating it.
I always have to use a GDA for this reason I take 25mg pre bed when using
 

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With reference to the dosing protocols, Mike Arnold was recently recommending an 8 on 4 off, or 4 on 2 off in another thread.
 

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i have been using 20-25mg mk677 everyday for close to 3 years straight now
in the begining i was hungry and i couldnt sleep when i took it at night
now i take 12.5mg in the morning and 12.5mg pre workout later in the day
i have no side effects that i think is negative imo atm.

i have never taken anything else strong like sarms/ph or steroids.. ive only used mk677 and mk677 vs being natural is night and day. i use mk677 and nothing else because i wanna use something i dont need to cycle on and off.

is there something i should be worried about after using mk677 for 3 years straight no basicly no break? i havent noticed any negative side effects and im still getting great gains.. i havent noticed anything bad happen but i dont wanna be ignorant if some negative side effects are gonna hit me one day
(i really dont wanna stop using mk677, obviously)
did you notice your hands and wrists getting thicker / bigger? also the jaw, browridge etc?

the waist, the head in general?
 

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did you notice your hands and wrists getting thicker / bigger? also the jaw, browridge etc?

the waist, the head in general?
I am a lunatic and honestly wouldnt mind bigger hands, thicker wrists or more prominent facial features (inb4 looking like a neanderthal).

However, i am 90% sure it aint gonna happen with mk677, it just doesnt boost igf 1 levels enpugh for that to happen, even during longer periods of time.

i dont think any peptide or any combo will do it. For that to happen gh needs to be abused, at high doses for a long time.
 

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I am a lunatic and honestly wouldnt mind bigger hands, thicker wrists or more prominent facial features (inb4 looking like a neanderthal).

However, i am 90% sure it aint gonna happen with mk677, it just doesnt boost igf 1 levels enpugh for that to happen, even during longer periods of time.

i dont think any peptide or any combo will do it. For that to happen gh needs to be abused, at high doses for a long time.
did u order from lyphar or another chinese supplier? im looking forwards to ordering mk 677 its gona be my first " sarms " or w/e u wanna call it, first anything of that kind, do u know a source that sells it cheap and good quality? im looking into some alibaba vendors rn.
 

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Has it had any impact on lipids? I’ve seen someone on what was labeled to be MK go in for their annual bloods with LDL and total cholesterol through the roof along with moderate increases in BP
MK-677 was NOT responsible for your friend's increase in lipids.

If you look at the study link posted above, you will see that LDL levels actually DECREASED in the MK-677 group, while they remained the same in the placebo group. So, in this study MK-677 had a positive impact on lipids.

As far as blood pressure goes, MK can, in some individuals, cause a temporary increase in BP due to water retention. However, since water retention, as well as personal response to it (relative to BP increases) varries from person to person, there is no predictable response in this area. The good news is that once the water goes down, which it will with time, so does the potential for BP increases. Personally, my BP is excellent and isn't affected by MK at all, but for some others, it is. Monitor yourself.

Generally speaking, this isn't an issue for otherwise natural bodybuilders and those in good health, but for PED users with already borderline high BP, you certainly want to keep an eye on it...and take steps to rectify the problem if necessary (i.e. telemisartin, carditone, etc.).
 
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MK-677 was NOT responsible for your friend's increase in lipids.

If you look at the study link posted above, you will see that LDL levels actually DECREASED in the MK-677 group, while they remained the same in the placebo group. So, in this study MK-677 had a positive impact on lipids.

As far as blood pressure goes, MK can, in some individuals, cause a temporary increase in BP due to water retention. However, since water retention, as well as personal response to it (relative to BP increases) varries from person to person, there is no predictable response in this area. The good news is that once the water goes down, which it will with time, so does the potential for BP increases. Personally, my BP is excellent and isn't affected by MK at all, but for some others, it is. Monitor yourself.

Generally speaking, this isn't an issue for otherwise natural bodybuilders and those in good health, but for PED users with already borderline high BP, you certainly want to keep an eye on it...and take steps to rectify the problem if necessary (i.e. telemisartin, carditone, etc.).
Totally agree with this. If it does anything to the lipids then it is lowering. It is a growth hormone secretagouge. Better utilization of nutrients and stuff 😀

And water retention is person specific. I think i had some at the very beginning but 2 weeks in i was leaning out and dry as hell, flat actually, as if i was dieting, and veiny.
 

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See what scares me about this is after having a drug tell ur body to me gh for so long what will your levels be when they go back to normal when u come off the drug

how will your appetite be effected
Will your grehlin hormone be desensitized
Will you not be able to sleep
Will your recovery be blunted
**** will your brain chemistry and neurotransmitter next effected I know it effects fear response in the amygdala
Will your insulin response be effected at all
I know with gear I can go back to trt after 5 month cycle and be back to baseline basically but growth hormone governs a wide range of functions as well and I’m very iffy about how it effects your natural pituitary output when you come off
-loss of appetite and sleep is not something I’m willing to run into when coming off some mk. Unfortunately for me I can’t even run it the sides are too heavy. (Lethargy and wild sleep schedule) and the **** puts more water on me than dbol could ever dream of doing

I would stop at this point and give your body a break I would also get igf test two months from now and see where your levels are
 

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See what scares me about this is after having a drug tell ur body to me gh for so long what will your levels be when they go back to normal when u come off the drug

how will your appetite be effected
Will your grehlin hormone be desensitized
Will you not be able to sleep
Will your recovery be blunted
**** will your brain chemistry and neurotransmitter next effected I know it effects fear response in the amygdala
Will your insulin response be effected at all
I know with gear I can go back to trt after 5 month cycle and be back to baseline basically but growth hormone governs a wide range of functions as well and I’m very iffy about how it effects your natural pituitary output when you come off
-loss of appetite and sleep is not something I’m willing to run into when coming off some mk. Unfortunately for me I can’t even run it the sides are too heavy. (Lethargy and wild sleep schedule) and the **** puts more water on me than dbol could ever dream of doing

I would stop at this point and give your body a break I would also get igf test two months from now and see where your levels are
it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
 

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See what scares me about this is after having a drug tell ur body to me gh for so long what will your levels be when they go back to normal when u come off the drug

how will your appetite be effected
Will your grehlin hormone be desensitized
Will you not be able to sleep
Will your recovery be blunted
**** will your brain chemistry and neurotransmitter next effected I know it effects fear response in the amygdala
Will your insulin response be effected at all
I know with gear I can go back to trt after 5 month cycle and be back to baseline basically but growth hormone governs a wide range of functions as well and I’m very iffy about how it effects your natural pituitary output when you come off
-loss of appetite and sleep is not something I’m willing to run into when coming off some mk. Unfortunately for me I can’t even run it the sides are too heavy. (Lethargy and wild sleep schedule) and the **** puts more water on me than dbol could ever dream of doing

I would stop at this point and give your body a break I would also get igf test two months from now and see where your levels are
it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
 

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See what scares me about this is after having a drug tell ur body to me gh for so long what will your levels be when they go back to normal when u come off the drug

how will your appetite be effected
Will your grehlin hormone be desensitized
Will you not be able to sleep
Will your recovery be blunted
**** will your brain chemistry and neurotransmitter next effected I know it effects fear response in the amygdala
Will your insulin response be effected at all
I know with gear I can go back to trt after 5 month cycle and be back to baseline basically but growth hormone governs a wide range of functions as well and I’m very iffy about how it effects your natural pituitary output when you come off
-loss of appetite and sleep is not something I’m willing to run into when coming off some mk. Unfortunately for me I can’t even run it the sides are too heavy. (Lethargy and wild sleep schedule) and the **** puts more water on me than dbol could ever dream of doing

I would stop at this point and give your body a break I would also get igf test two months from now and see where your levels are
it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
 

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See what scares me about this is after having a drug tell ur body to me gh for so long what will your levels be when they go back to normal when u come off the drug

how will your appetite be effected
Will your grehlin hormone be desensitized
Will you not be able to sleep
Will your recovery be blunted
**** will your brain chemistry and neurotransmitter next effected I know it effects fear response in the amygdala
Will your insulin response be effected at all
I know with gear I can go back to trt after 5 month cycle and be back to baseline basically but growth hormone governs a wide range of functions as well and I’m very iffy about how it effects your natural pituitary output when you come off
-loss of appetite and sleep is not something I’m willing to run into when coming off some mk. Unfortunately for me I can’t even run it the sides are too heavy. (Lethargy and wild sleep schedule) and the **** puts more water on me than dbol could ever dream of doing

I would stop at this point and give your body a break I would also get igf test two months from now and see where your levels are
it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
 

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See what scares me about this is after having a drug tell ur body to me gh for so long what will your levels be when they go back to normal when u come off the drug

how will your appetite be effected
Will your grehlin hormone be desensitized
Will you not be able to sleep
Will your recovery be blunted
**** will your brain chemistry and neurotransmitter next effected I know it effects fear response in the amygdala
Will your insulin response be effected at all
I know with gear I can go back to trt after 5 month cycle and be back to baseline basically but growth hormone governs a wide range of functions as well and I’m very iffy about how it effects your natural pituitary output when you come off
-loss of appetite and sleep is not something I’m willing to run into when coming off some mk. Unfortunately for me I can’t even run it the sides are too heavy. (Lethargy and wild sleep schedule) and the **** puts more water on me than dbol could ever dream of doing

I would stop at this point and give your body a break I would also get igf test two months from now and see where your levels are
it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
 

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See what scares me about this is after having a drug tell ur body to me gh for so long what will your levels be when they go back to normal when u come off the drug

how will your appetite be effected
Will your grehlin hormone be desensitized
Will you not be able to sleep
Will your recovery be blunted
**** will your brain chemistry and neurotransmitter next effected I know it effects fear response in the amygdala
Will your insulin response be effected at all
I know with gear I can go back to trt after 5 month cycle and be back to baseline basically but growth hormone governs a wide range of functions as well and I’m very iffy about how it effects your natural pituitary output when you come off
-loss of appetite and sleep is not something I’m willing to run into when coming off some mk. Unfortunately for me I can’t even run it the sides are too heavy. (Lethargy and wild sleep schedule) and the **** puts more water on me than dbol could ever dream of doing

I would stop at this point and give your body a break I would also get igf test two months from now and see where your levels are
it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
 

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See what scares me about this is after having a drug tell ur body to me gh for so long what will your levels be when they go back to normal when u come off the drug

how will your appetite be effected
Will your grehlin hormone be desensitized
Will you not be able to sleep
Will your recovery be blunted
**** will your brain chemistry and neurotransmitter next effected I know it effects fear response in the amygdala
Will your insulin response be effected at all
I know with gear I can go back to trt after 5 month cycle and be back to baseline basically but growth hormone governs a wide range of functions as well and I’m very iffy about how it effects your natural pituitary output when you come off
-loss of appetite and sleep is not something I’m willing to run into when coming off some mk. Unfortunately for me I can’t even run it the sides are too heavy. (Lethargy and wild sleep schedule) and the **** puts more water on me than dbol could ever dream of doing

I would stop at this point and give your body a break I would also get igf test two months from now and see where your levels are
it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
 
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it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
Lol we got ourselves a dreamer folks.
 
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it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
Holy shyt, we heard you the first time.

"all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug," this is just so wrong!!

IGF 1 is boosted optimally in the 25mg range with MK. IGF1 is absolutely beneficial in building size and muscle. HGH benefits increase up to about 12.5mg then you start to see diminished returns for the GH at higher doses. Same with IGF 1 after 25mgs. So you have 2 things at play, GH and IGF1 both responsible for different things. Dose of MK should be goal dependent imo.
 

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it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
You realize you saying it doesn’t effect anything at all because it doesn’t effect hgh it’s the single most flawed statement u could of said right?

whatabout the the message sent from the hypothalamus to tell the pituitary to releases hgh, whatabout your circadian rhythm whatabout the way lack of sunlight hits the eyes and the body produces melatonin which all is just part of the hormonal chain. You don’t think deep enough

you don’t think that because this drug is in the body and sending a message that it’s going to effect anything at all other than hgh?
 

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i hear lots about mk677 hunger. Some say its no dig deal others it is. Generally i have been told 10mg a day can help with some fat burning and also sleep....lets say it makes me as hungry as a golden retriever at a holiday meal. Is there a good appetite suppressant anyone can reccomend? I know eca helps with appetite, but i only run 2 cycles of eca per year.
 

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i hear lots about mk677 hunger. Some say its no dig deal others it is. Generally i have been told 10mg a day can help with some fat burning and also sleep....lets say it makes me as hungry as a golden retriever at a holiday meal. Is there a good appetite suppressant anyone can reccomend? I know eca helps with appetite, but i only run 2 cycles of eca per year.
It is NOT a big deal if you have any kind of self control. Hunger is there, but you aint a wild beast, are you lol?

running 25mg per day currently. Hunger is there, but less than when i started. I split the 25mg into 2x per day.

also, no bloat at all. And sleep is amazing. I started inhibit p which contains l dopa this week and first noght i took both inhibit p and my dose of mk before bed.

Had 4 totally different vivid dreams that i still right now recall.
 

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it doesnt impact your natural hgh and therefor almost anything AT ALL, like how people think that androgen receptors downregulate on roids but they actually upregulate

the guy is saying hes fine and his labwork is perfect, also plenty of other people that have been doing cycles like 12 months on couple months off say theres no side effects stopping, and stoping almost any compound after 12 months cold turkey will give you side effects till u get used to it

all in all from all i know now mk677 seems more like a sleep aid then a muscle building drug, it increases your hgh levels by 60ish percent but even with insane amounts of actual hgh u only notice like 30% more gains, so this might give you like 5% more gains and make you cut faster cause it increases your metabolism

the +150% rem sleep and the hgh acting on the connective tissue, the skin etc seem like a bigger benefit than muscle building

so you get a 1000 times cheaper alternative to hgh, your skin gets clear, you sleep like a baby and feel rejuvinated and you shred faster, alongside some muscle gains

im ordering it rn and what i look forward the most is just going to sleep like a baby and feeling like a trillion bucks, like those days when i was a kid and i woke up on the beach during summer and felt like i just slept for a week in heaven.
During the first week IGF-1 level go through the ROOF! I have seen blood work showing IGF- level equivalent to 8-10 iu of exo. GH. But...this is only for the first week. Desensitization begins to occur after that. So, the best option is to use a high dose (25 mg/day) right out of the gate for 8 days, followed by 4 days off. This will help re-set your sensitivity. In the end, you end up with even more IGF-1 production over the long-term...and less strain on your bank account.

As far as muscle growth, the studies are clear, MK grows lean tissue in EVERY test subject that uses it...and these studies were in elderly people. When given to young people who are training hard and eating right, its potential muscle building benefits only increase.

It's very similar to exo. GH in this regard. You could take 5 iu of exo. GH every day for 90 days, but if you are dieting...or are basically eating a mainatnce amount of calories, you won't see any meaningful muscle growth. You will gain fullness, but not any real muscle tissue. Does this mean eo. GH doesn't help build muscle? Of course not. We all know better than that, yet there are TONS of people who use exo. GH and don't grow at all...because they aren't putting their body in a state conducive to growth.

Now, if the individual is eating a caloric surplus and training for growth, exo. GH (as well as MK-677) most certainly has the potential to increase lean mass. Anything which drastically increases IGF-1 levels will increase potential muscle growth.

Neither exo. GH or MK-677 are overnight miracle drugs (except in terms of muscle fullness, which comes on very quickly), but both can provide significant muscle building results when you stay the course and do what is required. In this sense, MK-677 and exo. GH are the same.

On another note, I wish I was still sleeping like I was when I was a kid. Those days were wondrous. I slept like a rock and woke up completely refreshed. I would literally JUMP out of bed within seconds of waking up and feel awesome, especially during summer vacation (because school sucked)). Now, I slowly open my eyes and try to clear the head fog before dragging myself over to my coffee machine.
 

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During the first week IGF-1 level go through the ROOF! I have seen blood work showing IGF- level equivalent to 8-10 iu of exo. GH. But...this is only for the first week. Desensitization begins to occur after that. So, the best option is to use a high dose (25 mg/day) right out of the gate for 8 days, followed by 4 days off. This will help re-set your sensitivity. In the end, you end up with even more IGF-1 production over the long-term...and less strain on your bank account.

As far as muscle growth, the studies are clear, MK grows lean tissue in EVERY test subject that uses it...and these studies were in elderly people. When given to young people who are training hard and eating right, its potential muscle building benefits only increase.

It's very similar to exo. GH in this regard. You could take 5 iu of exo. GH every day for 90 days, but if you are dieting...or are basically eating a mainatnce amount of calories, you won't see any meaningful muscle growth. You will gain fullness, but not any real muscle tissue. Does this mean eo. GH doesn't help build muscle? Of course not. We all know better than that, yet there are TONS of people who use exo. GH and don't grow at all...because they aren't putting their body in a state conducive to growth.

Now, if the individual is eating a caloric surplus and training for growth, exo. GH (as well as MK-677) most certainly has the potential to increase lean mass. Anything which drastically increases IGF-1 levels will increase potential muscle growth.

Neither exo. GH or MK-677 are overnight miracle drugs (except in terms of muscle fullness, which comes on very quickly), but both can provide significant muscle building results when you stay the course and do what is required. In this sense, MK-677 and exo. GH are the same.
Interesting. Never heard abput 8 on / 4 off for mk677. Always thought it is better to just run it continuously.

can you post a link to the study where it is confirmed that igf1 shoots up in the first week? I thought it took 2 weeks for a noticeable increase in igf 1.
 
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Last night was my 6th day on mk677 taken 2 hours before bed at 20mg. Hunger was greatly increased first 2 days but has now returned to slightly above normal. Have noticed slight bloat and puffiness, probably from the increased eating from Thursday though. Definitely having better deeper sleep with very vivid dreams.
 

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