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I have bought a bootle of msten

M-sten x 120 Capsules X 7.5mg

I have left from other cycles
35pills X 25mg Winstrol
45 pills X 25mg Anavar

Sould i run msten solo for 6-8 weeks at 15mg a day
or to add winstrol OR anavar
I have winstrol for 50mg a day for 17 days
I have Var for 50 mg a day for 22 days

I want to to Gain Muscle Without Gaining too musch Fat
 
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15-22.5mg a day Msten with nothing else except an injectable.
 
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Don’t do 30mg a day like me. That was some rough times there, learned my lesson
 
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did that once too... I’ll be back gotta puke
I don’t know how you’d be able too, couldn’t eat a damn thing at that amount lol. I had to force feed myself.
 
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Don’t do 30mg a day like me. That was some rough times there, learned my lesson
I realy enjoyed it at that dosage for 6 weeks lol
Start low, see if you can handle it and if you feel like you could endure it, go for it OP
 

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What side effects i have to handle?
Time of dosing?
 
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I realy enjoyed it at that dosage for 6 weeks lol
Start low, see if you can handle it and if you feel like you could endure it, go for it OP
I felt like I was going anorexic because I wasn’t eating much on that dose after 5 weeks
 

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What about my diet?
What should i do?
Add 200-300 cal a day ?
 
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Msten will have impressive nutrient partitioning but it’s a better bulker.
On that Same note the whole idea of cutting on aas is to hold onto muscle, which it will do. And you could possibly even cut aggressively. So I’d only make adjustments of 500cals below or 500 over. If you think you can do more adjust from there. Anabolics are impressive for gaining muscle but look at some of the natties out there, you don’t need it for muscle. What aas really are more necessary for an impressive feat of holding onto muscle while in a deficit
 

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15 mg of msten is on the low side so I would throw the var in with it until it runs out then the winnie. I always use up left over gear that way. Especially with such a low dose of msten. It shines at 40mgs.
 

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15 mg of msten is on the low side so I would throw the var in with it until it runs out then the winnie. I always use up left over gear that way. Especially with such a low dose of msten. It shines at 40mgs.
You aren’t saying msten shines at 40mg right?
 

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You aren’t saying msten shines at 40mg right?
Yeah i am.

Superdrol 20 mgs
M1t 20mgs
Epistane 40-60 mgs
Msten 30-40mgs

Most will find this to be the best bang for the buck with diminishing returns after. Clearly if your new to msten you would t run it at 40 mgs just like if your new to superdrol 10 mgs is plenty.
 
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Yeah i am.

Superdrol 20 mgs
M1t 20mgs
Epistane 40-60 mgs
Msten 30-40mgs

Most will find this to be the best bang for the buck with diminishing returns after. Clearly if your new to msten you would t run it at 40 mgs just like if your new to superdrol 10 mgs is plenty.
You’ll have every single experienced users of this forum saying otherwise concerning the msten
 

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Yeah i am.

Superdrol 20 mgs
M1t 20mgs
Epistane 40-60 mgs
Msten 30-40mgs

Most will find this to be the best bang for the buck with diminishing returns after. Clearly if your new to msten you would t run it at 40 mgs just like if your new to superdrol 10 mgs is plenty.
I’m not new to msten and I wouldn’t run it at 40 mg ever. I just ran it at 20mg for 4 weeks and that was plenty.
 
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I for one like having my own liver inside my body therefore I won’t be running Msten above 20 ever again
 
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Yeah i am.

Superdrol 20 mgs
M1t 20mgs
Epistane 40-60 mgs
Msten 30-40mgs

Most will find this to be the best bang for the buck with diminishing returns after. Clearly if your new to msten you would t run it at 40 mgs just like if your new to superdrol 10 mgs is plenty.
That’s awesome for you, but you’re going around threads telling guys dosages like they’re gospel that even the most experienced users here don’t touch.
It’s like your bragging OR telling everyone they’re inexperienced pussies, I can’t tell which. But it doesn’t really matter, because no one agrees with you.
 
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If pinning is out of the question, and if I knew there was some decent stuff available, Id say Trest TD would go nicely with msten, or just about any oral. You wouldnt even need much, like maybe 50mg per day, which would typically be ample at keeping you feeling good in all respects but also without overpowering the oral.
 

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Reading all that i am thinking of starting with 15mg a day and the last week (if i feel ok) at 22mg
Dose?
1pill (7,5mg) at morning and 1 at afternoon is ok?
 

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Does it kick fast?
What side effects do i have to expect?
 
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Does it kick fast?
What side effects do i have to expect?
One week in you should notice fuller muscles, then strength will come, and after that harder muscles. Sides can be from 0 all the way to increased blood preasure and so on...
 

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Is it stronger than
50mg Winstrol
or 50mg Var
or 45mg Epistane?
 

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Here is how to find out how to dose msten. You go through the threads and find the sweet spot then half it cuz that sweet spot won't be sweet anymore after about a week in and you'll most likely flush your pills. 20mg gives awesome results 40 is stupid
 

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Here is how to find out how to dose msten. You go through the threads and find the sweet spot then half it cuz that sweet spot won't be sweet anymore after about a week in and you'll most likely flush your pills. 20mg gives awesome results 40 is stupid
LOL I did this to my m1ad
 

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Here is how to find out how to dose msten. You go through the threads and find the sweet spot then half it cuz that sweet spot won't be sweet anymore after about a week in and you'll most likely flush your pills. 20mg gives awesome results 40 is stupid
Lol I Remember when I first started on forums and parrot **** I've read and never tried as well.
 

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Superdrol 20 mgs
M1t 20mgs
Epistane 40-60 mgs
Msten 30-40mgs

Most will find this to be the best bang for the buck with diminishing returns after. Clearly if your new to msten you would t run it at 40 mgs just like if your new to superdrol 10 mgs is plenty.
M sten at 30-40 mgs ? Damn, I'm on wk 4 at 20 mgs and feel like complete ****. I couldn't even imagine how 40 mgs would feel like
 

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For PCT a have
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Alpha Max XT

is it a good choise to add proviron ?
 
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For PCT a have
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Alpha Max XT

is it a good choise to add proviron ?
Just use the SERM (nolva) Kosta. I would use it for 6 weeks 20/20/20/20/10/10 just to be on the safe side. Don't take anything suppressive with it, even a mild one like proviron.
I wouldn't also take anything containing forskolin during SERM usage. It might have an opposite effect.
 

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For PCT a have
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Alpha Max XT

is it a good choise to add proviron ?
Have you started your cycle bro.... could you please report on your experience with this particular brand as I have the same bottle lying with me.

also are you planning to run m Sten solo or with a test base?
 
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Got a bottle of this myself to run solo just as a cheap impulse cycle. No concrete plans how to run it. Took one pill this morning since it's my first time trying msten, will take another tonight. Maybe take 2 pills (15mg) for a few days and if no sides occur I'll bump to 3 (22.5mg) and run until the bottle runs out/intolerable sides creep in/gains stop, whichever happens first.
 
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Msten + dmz is pretty popular
 

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Trestolone 15 mg daily or dienolone 75 mg transdermal if you're bulking. That's would be an enjoyable 8 weeks cycle.
 

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I am at PCT now.
I earn 8,5 kg at 6 weeks easy.
My power is up a lot.

Sides effects only low libido
I just ordered it again to use it in the future
i just take 2 pills (15mg) every day.
 

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I am at PCT now.
I earn 8,5 kg at 6 weeks easy.
My power is up a lot.

Sides effects only low libido
I just ordered it again to use it in the future
i just take 2 pills (15mg) every day.
18 lbs from 6 weeks @ 15mgs is huge gainz man! Did you eat a big calorie surplus?
 

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Got a bottle of this myself to run solo just as a cheap impulse cycle. No concrete plans how to run it. Took one pill this morning since it's my first time trying msten, will take another tonight. Maybe take 2 pills (15mg) for a few days and if no sides occur I'll bump to 3 (22.5mg) and run until the bottle runs out/intolerable sides creep in/gains stop, whichever happens first.
sounds good bro, do let us know how it goes...
running solo or with a test base?
 

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I am at PCT now.
I earn 8,5 kg at 6 weeks easy.
My power is up a lot.

Sides effects only low libido
I just ordered it again to use it in the future
i just take 2 pills (15mg) every day.
ran it solo or with some other compound?
what Other support supplements did you use?
 
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15mg is plenty .. nice cycle gains .. best of luck on pct
 
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I'm currently running M-Sten at 20mg and will do for 4 weeks. I have a bottle of EPISTANE left over, so I'm thinking about adding it at 20mg a day.

Can anyone add any advice to this? Or experience in stacking M-Sten.

If you gained 16lbs I'm wondering if adding EPI will be too much.
 
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I'm currently running M-Sten at 20mg and will do for 4 weeks. I have a bottle of EPISTANE left over, so I'm thinking about adding it at 20mg a day.

Can anyone add any advice to this? Or experience in stacking M-Sten.

If you gained 16lbs I'm wondering if adding EPI will be too much.
 

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