Wobmarvels random thread, sarms, prohormones, natty supps and random life stuff.

[Karlrobert]

Day 22

LGD 10 mg

Rad 10 mg

S4 50 mg

3 spray 50 pumps

Day off

188.5 lbs

Have you noticed anything since adding the S4? I see you started low at 25mg and now at 50. Any vision sides yet? I noticed better mood and vascularity when I ran it at 50/75mg

 

[Wobmarvel]

Have you noticed anything since adding the S4? I see you started low at 25mg and now at 50. Any vision sides yet? I noticed better mood and vascularity when I ran it at 50/75mg

Nothing sight related yet, used a different brand (enhanced athlete) a couple of years ago for an extreme cut. I went up to 75mg with that and the sight related side effects were intense, proper "couldn't see my hand in front of my face in dim lighting stuff". My strength improved greatly on it though and I got the leanest I've ever been 168lbs, obviously down to diet too.

Decided not to go above 50mg here due to using three compounds and to hopefully keep side effects to a minimum however if I don't get any sides at all I am going to be suspicious of the product and may up to 75mg towards the end just to test it out.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Day 23

LGD 10 mg

Rad 10 mg

S4 50 mg

3 spray 50 pumps

Workout full body

188.5 lbs

 

[Wobmarvel]

Day 24

LGD 10 mg

Rad 10 mg

S4 50 mg

3 spray 50 pumps

Day off

187.5 lbs

 

[hairygrandpa]

Its day 24. Are you huge already?

 

[SkRaw85]

Log pics?

 

[Studhorse]

In to follow.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Log pics?

Looking a lot more "in shape" than when I started. I've not been taking pics this log. Keeping it 100% real, I've not turned into a shredded striated vascular god. My arms, shoulders, chest, abs and back are all more defined. Belt has tightened over a notch.

I recon if my test has been as low as my recent test results whilst being off, my body probably laps up any anabolic I throw at it. I have been on an aggressive deficit some days and have steadily only lost a couple of pounds per week.

Believe me if I start seeing something ground breaking pics will happen.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Day 25

LGD 10 mg

Rad 10 mg

S4 50 mg

3 spray 50 pumps

Chest/delts

187 lbs

 

[Wobmarvel]

Will be doing a dedicated arm day on Friday instead of legs due to sciatica getting well beyond a joke.

Called the NHS yesterday and I'm on a 15 week waiting list for physiotherapy. I'm at about week 9 just now.

It's starting to effect all my lifts, today it hampered my bench. Managed 3 reps with 95kg. Did 4 last week. Pain shoots up my leg as I'm trying to stabilise my body on the bench. Same when I do barbell curls or side laterals. I did manage 5 dips with 20kg added to the weight belt though so that's progress.

Got my doctor's appointment tomorrow to discuss my test results. We will see if he takes me seriously.

 

[Wobmarvel]

So back from the doctors. They are gonna check my test levels when they take blood tomorrow, along with prostate related stuff, kidney values, liver values. Will get an appointment to discuss results probably a week or so after.

 

[Studhorse]

Will be doing a dedicated arm day on Friday instead of legs due to sciatica getting well beyond a joke.

Called the NHS yesterday and I'm on a 15 week waiting list for physiotherapy. I'm at about week 9 just now.

It's starting to effect all my lifts, today it hampered my bench. Managed 3 reps with 95kg. Did 4 last week. Pain shoots up my leg as I'm trying to stabilise my body on the bench. Same when I do barbell curls or side laterals. I did manage 5 dips with 20kg added to the weight belt though so that's progress.

Got my doctor's appointment tomorrow to discuss my test results. We will see if he takes me seriously.

That just has to SUCK!

 

[Wobmarvel]

Okay things slipped yesterday. Had a bit of a low day as I came to terms with still not having a job. Money will dry up in a month or so and I'm gonna be living on credit cards.

Also pissed off cos I ordered a bunch of stuff from predator and the box went missing, predator is blaming the courier, the courier says I have to complain to predator so that's a bunch of money down the drain too.

I still stuck to diet sarms etc. Weight was 187 lbs.

Will see if I can get back on track today.

 

[Segansational]

Shoot man, hope things turn around for you.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Well in the middle of doing some pull ups my cat just took a turn for the worst. Been on the phone to the vet and will be taking her to get put to sleep this afternoon. She's 19 so has had a good run. She is also blind. I'll just put it on the list of "interesting" things that have happened this year... Can't wait to get my prostate diagnosis.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Well that's "operation cat drop off" done. Now about to head off to the doctors to get blood taken. Today's a weird day.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Sam... 2001 - 2019

 

[SkRaw85]

Sorry to hear. 18 years is a good run though. Perhaps time for a new addition???

 

[Wobmarvel]

Sorry to hear. 18 years is a good run though. Perhaps time for a new addition???

Yeah perhaps drugs or alcohol.

 

[SkRaw85]

I cannot judge

 

[Studhorse]

Well in the middle of doing some pull ups my cat just took a turn for the worst. Been on the phone to the vet and will be taking her to get put to sleep this afternoon. She's 19 so has had a good run. She is also blind. I'll just put it on the list of "interesting" things that have happened this year... Can't wait to get my prostate diagnosis.

Lost a member of the family and get to get the ol finger waive.
"Drugs and Alcohol"

 

[Wobmarvel]

Damn, just been reading about how Mike Tyson back in the day did 500 - 800 dips per day... I think I need to rethink my high rep full body Monday workout.

 

[jim2509]

Okay things slipped yesterday. Had a bit of a low day as I came to terms with still not having a job. Money will dry up in a month or so and I'm gonna be living on credit cards.

Also pissed off cos I ordered a bunch of stuff from predator and the box went missing, predator is blaming the courier, the courier says I have to complain to predator so that's a bunch of money down the drain too.

I still stuck to diet sarms etc. Weight was 187 lbs.

Will see if I can get back on track today.

Your the 2nd person who's complained about PN and delivery. You have PAID for the items and they are legally bound to supply them or refund you. Its their responsibility to chase it up with the delivery company - get onto them and if they dont sort it report them.

Under the Consumer Rights Act, you can ask the seller to deliver the item again if the item wasn’t delivered either:

• by an agreed date
• within a reasonable time - usually within 30 days

If you want to write your own letter
Include these lines:
"Failure to deliver within a reasonable time and after the agreed deadline is a breach under the Consumer Rights Act 2015.
Time is essential. Please deliver the item without undue delay. ".

Aside from this I am same age as you 44 have 3 kids, dont have any low mood, wood, do get tired as kids young and was going to start an Lgd 4033/Dermacrine Cycle. Might be worth getting bloods done first maybe although i reckon getting a script off NHS for TRT might be near impossible.

Have had Sciatica due to pelvic upslip.....it sucked big time...loads of stretching and time sorted it. I hope things pick up for you...they will im sure of it. Be interesting to see what your Dr says about TRT. Get onto those PN cowboys though.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Your the 2nd person who's complained about PN and delivery. You have PAID for the items and they are legally bound to supply them or refund you. Its their responsibility to chase it up with the delivery company - get onto them and if they dont sort it report them.

Under the Consumer Rights Act, you can ask the seller to deliver the item again if the item wasn’t delivered either:

• by an agreed date
• within a reasonable time - usually within 30 days

If you want to write your own letter
Include these lines:
"Failure to deliver within a reasonable time and after the agreed deadline is a breach under the Consumer Rights Act 2015.
Time is essential. Please deliver the item without undue delay. ".

Aside from this I am same age as you 44 have 3 kids, dont have any low mood, wood, do get tired as kids young and was going to start an Lgd 4033/Dermacrine Cycle. Might be worth getting bloods done first maybe although i reckon getting a script off NHS for TRT might be near impossible.

Have had Sciatica due to pelvic upslip.....it sucked big time...loads of stretching and time sorted it. I hope things pick up for you...they will im sure of it. Be interesting to see what your Dr says about TRT. Get onto those PN cowboys though.

Well PN have asked me to fill out a letter template that looks like a letter sent to me from the courier. The weird thing is I have to fill in all the details including name, address, order number etc. Plus I have to say what date they claim to have delivered on then at the bottom sign a disclaimer stating that it's not true. Weird thing is the courier didn't say they have delivered it at all but it has gone missing in transit. I suppose I could fill it in anyway but it would be a falsified document.

 

[jim2509]

Well PN have asked me to fill out a letter template that looks like a letter sent to me from the courier. The weird thing is I have to fill in all the details including name, address, order number etc. Plus I have to say what date they claim to have delivered on then at the bottom sign a disclaimer stating that it's not true. Weird thing is the courier didn't say they have delivered it at all but it has gone missing in transit. I suppose I could fill it in anyway but it would be a falsified document.

Sounds dodgy. Id contact the delivery company as they can confirm it wasnt delivered - get a reference number for your complaint AND email confirmation it was lost in transit/not delivered, fill in the PN form and clearly state the delivery complaint reference number and that they have confirmed in writing the reason. They probably wont make it easy for you but they are surely have insurance with their delivery company. I never use PN anymore for various reasons.

 

[City Boy]

Predator would of had insurance on the item when it was sent , the sender has to put the claim into the courier service as it’s a contract between them two seems like bad customer service ,this is why I generally use PayPal ,I would also take a screen shot of the tracking saying it hasn’t been delivered

 

[Wobmarvel]

I've sent a response confirming I haven't received the box and copied and pasted the courier email stating the parcel has gotten lost in transit. Hopefully that will be enough.

 

[Wobmarvel]

So I got my parcel. I found it in the bushes outside my kitchen window this morning after taking the boys to school. There was also a delivery slip blowing around the garden that wasn't posted, isn't dated and doesn't state anything except the box is to the right of the door. Lucky I found the slip or j wouldn't even have gone into the bushes to see if there was a parcel.

The box may have been there for a couple of days as I was away over the weekend and it was very wet however the label on the box is dated 6th sept so it's not the same box that went missing on the 28th of August.

Either way I have my stuff, plus all the freebies predator were giving away for their anniversary (I binned the towel, string bag and wrist band).

 

[Segansational]

Glad you finally got it, whatever the case there happened!

 

[Wobmarvel]

Soooo... Call from the doctors this morning. All prostate related numbers came back okay... Woohoo. Liver numbers are raised so they want to retest. Testosterone and hormone results are so complicated that I need to make an appointment with an actual doctor (was speaking to receptionist) she couldn't say if they were good or bad. Next appointment is 4th October... Go NHS!!! I have e to get more bloods taken tomorrow. Honestly thinking of pulling plug on cycle just now due to raises liver enzymes (if that's what she meant, probably the lgd). Just go cold turkey and so when time comes to discuss test etc. I can honestly say I'm not taking anything but maybe mention that I have in the past.

I'll continue with cycle support and maybe not even bother with the serm and hope I get actual hormone treatment of I need it.

Any suggestions would be welcome.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Got a copy of the liver tests. My ALT and AST levels are way above normal ranges. ALT is 103 U/L with normal range being between 9 and 55.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Actually fug it I'm pulling the plug. Will continue with cycle support, no serm unless I start feeling like death. My eosinophil and lymphocyte white blood cells are high too. These could be due to my sciatica but could be something else.

I can't see any suituation where I eventually have to possibly reveal to my doctor or even my wife that through this I chose to continue to secretly take sarms (or whatever they are) would be the right thing to do.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Shame I didn't do bloods before I started just to see if the cycle is actually the cause because it may not be.

 

[Studhorse]

Damn, just been reading about how Mike Tyson back in the day did 500 - 800 dips per day... I think I need to rethink my high rep full body Monday workout.

One of the best single compound exercises. did them for years and years and then I F'ed up my back pretty bad and have never done them since. I miss them but to paranoid to do them.

 

[Studhorse]

Actually fug it I'm pulling the plug. Will continue with cycle support, no serm unless I start feeling like death. My eosinophil and lymphocyte white blood cells are high too. These could be due to my sciatica but could be something else.

I can't see any suituation where I eventually have to possibly reveal to my doctor or even my wife that through this I chose to continue to secretly take sarms (or whatever they are) would be the right thing to do.

Tough one there.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Tough one there.

It's always annoying when it's mid cycle and you are getting results but at the end of the day if there is something extremely bad going on internally I don't think it will make any difference if I tell the doctor my lower abs are starting to show. I think he will still possibly think I'm crazy to be taking three sarms not fit for human consumption no matter how I sugar coat it... And my wife won't understand either.

 

[SkRaw85]

Time to ditch the sarms. You’re better than that

 

[Wobmarvel]

Time to ditch the sarms. You’re better than that

Maybe. Maybe time to ditch everything and work on homeostasis.

 

[Studhorse]

Maybe. Maybe time to ditch everything and work on homeostasis.

Agree on that one.

 

[SkRaw85]

Agreed. Gotta re-center every now and again. Either way, you’ll get it.

 

[Wobmarvel]

So it appears the doctor has ignored my request for testosterone level checks. Phoned this morning and no more bloods were checked except liver function test, urea and electrolytes, full blood count and plasma glucose levels.
There is a chance I may be able to get an appointment on Friday to discuss but if not I have to wait until the 4th October.

 

[SkRaw85]

So easy to get anabolics over there but so hard to get proper bloods. Sick joke.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Because the liver values were so high I was called back in yesterday for more bloods to be taken. Will see what the out come of that is.

 

[BamBam54]

I went back to my doc for blood work (following a low dose LGD cycle this summer) and was able to get the normal comprehensive tests along with the TEST male hormone panel. But they will not run the estroidal tests on a guy, and this time would not run the cholesterol tests. Who doesn't run those with every blood test???

 

[Wobmarvel]

I recon I'll be told that the blood panel and liver function is the first go to and cos liver values are high they will concentrate on what's causing that before moving on since it's a sign my body could be fighting some kind of virus, infection or cancer.

 

[Wobmarvel]

So today I decided to continue with the workout plan. I'm a day out of sync due to other stuff going on. Did full body workout on Tuesday, today was chest and shoulders.

Highlights were single rep bench press with 97kg, could probably have done two. Was so tempted to go for the 100kg but one step at a time. It was a bit wobbly and I'm using my fisher price "my first weight lifting set" without a spotter.

Also did 8 reps dips with 20kg added. Possibly had a couple more in the tank but again watching joints etc. Long term progression is key.

This is all interesting since I've been cold turkey on all anabolics since Monday, no serm no natty test booster, just cycle assist from cel and fish oils and multi plus any fatburners or preworkouts I choose to use.

Either

1 half lives of stuff is still in my system.

2 sarms were bunk and my focus on diet and training is what's paying off.

3 going cold turkey has switched some natural test creation on and helped keep strength up.

Either way it's good to still progress since I though the negative placebo effect of coming off would make me feel weaker.

 

[ItalOne]

Well that's "operation cat drop off" done. Now about to head off to the doctors to get blood taken. Today's a weird day.

Sorry about your cat. That sucks!

 

[Wobmarvel]

Sorry about your cat. That sucks!

Thanks. It had been a while coming. She was old and blind.

 

[Wobmarvel]

Another good thing just now, my sciatica seems to be easing. I can now walk and lie in bed with no pain. And that's without pain killers. I'll continue to stretch.

 

[ItalOne]

Hopefully now you realize sarms are a joke! Very little return!! Your probably dropping water which is why you appear and feel leaner. I would stay off everything for 4-6 months.