Answered Info cardarine+stimulant for better safety

merch

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hello to all of you guys, the question I'm about to ask you is not for me because it's not in the fitness field but it's for a friend that I care a lot about that sometimes he uses cocaine, mdma or stimulants that create load for the heart, do you think if you recommended taking 20/30 mg of cardarina together with the drug you are using can help your heart suffer less damage? I do not speak to have found the solution so to say ok now you can drug yourself every day but I believe that the cardarina raises the degree of safety of the experience a lot, you who say?
 
the idea came from the fact that the cardarina succeeds in reversing the cardiotoxic effects of trenbolone, so I thought that there could be a correlation
 
Those are some nasty drugs on the body and I doubt cardarine will be of much help. But who am I to say yes or no
 
Honestly bro regardless of whether you are right or not (and it’s interesting what you raise) I think if you want to help your friend you need to address the underlying recreational drug problem rather than whack a sticking plaster on some of the damage (almost green lights him to carry on). I had a bad cocaine and alcohol addiction for many years - physical problems are only of the issue, the mental side is also massive and that’s definitely not being helped by gw......
 
merch said:
hello to all of you guys, the question I'm about to ask you is not for me because it's not in the fitness field but it's for a friend that I care a lot about that sometimes he uses cocaine, mdma or stimulants that create load for the heart, do you think if you recommended taking 20/30 mg of cardarina together with the drug you are using can help your heart suffer less damage? I do not speak to have found the solution so to say ok now you can drug yourself every day but I believe that the cardarina raises the degree of safety of the experience a lot, you who say?
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No, but depending upon who you ask, it might give him cancer.
 
Whisky said:
Honestly bro regardless of whether you are right or not (and it’s interesting what you raise) I think if you want to help your friend you need to address the underlying recreational drug problem rather than whack a sticking plaster on some of the damage (almost green lights him to carry on). I had a bad cocaine and alcohol addiction for many years - physical problems are only of the issue, the mental side is also massive and that’s definitely not being helped by gw......
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Whisky said:
Honestly bro regardless of whether you are right or not (and it’s interesting what you raise) I think if you want to help your friend you need to address the underlying recreational drug problem rather than whack a sticking plaster on some of the damage (almost green lights him to carry on). I had a bad cocaine and alcohol addiction for many years - physical problems are only of the issue, the mental side is also massive and that’s definitely not being helped by gw......
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I think you hit the spot, that's what I'm trying to get them to understand, because it's like putting a plaster on and then every time I take off, reopen the wound and put the patch back, sooner or later something will go wrong, mine was only a question that in part could also concern us (an example: clen or ephedrine), the damage will be safe, but it is like saying take a methylated product with or without epapotector in both cases it will hurt but with the epaprotector the damage must be reduced a little
 
Renew1 said:
No, but depending upon who you ask, it might give him cancer.
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take my words with all due respect, because I do not know you and I would never disrespect you but what you said is ignorance, it was ruled out that the right amount of cardarina leads to cancer, were given dosage to rats so high that if I gave you the same report but you would die of paracetamol, this, and there are studies where he says that in some cases he caused the tumors to go back down, find me a person who reported that cancer came from there after use of the cardarina, because in rats it came after 12 weeks of use therefore very quickly, the rats although similar to the human genome have some different things and I repeat the dosages were high, it was as if a person took 250/300 mg of cardarine daily, dosages for more than a month in a single day, try taking 60 capsules of paracetamol which is the dose of one month and you will see that the cancer will be the least of your problems, this was just to explain, as Solely respect bro, only purely for informational purposes
 
'll tell you a brief experience, I took my eca stack before going to the gym to get some energy and I wanted to push really hard that day, at a certain point I started feeling anxious, my hands trembling, my heart beating at 175 / 180 (from the clock so we all know that he is going bust) practically it was as if I had a strong anxiety attack with heavy breathing, tried (155/80) high but not very high pressure, I take the cardarina after 20 minutes I am new, pressure 115/65, and the heart was back on the 75 80 beats, it may have been that I stopped but in my opinion it was also the cardarine
 
Mathb33 said:
Those are some nasty drugs on the body and I doubt cardarine will be of much help. But who am I to say yes or no
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on this you are completely right in fact he should just stop, but if you make the comparison the trenbolone I think is more harmful than cocaine, one can use cocaine for 2/3 years but I don't think he can use tren continuously for 2 years (I know that it doesn't make much sense but it was to make the idea vaguely)
 
merch said:
on this you are completely right in fact he should just stop, but if you make the comparison the trenbolone I think is more harmful than cocaine, one can use cocaine for 2/3 years but I don't think he can use tren continuously for 2 years (I know that it doesn't make much sense but it was to make the idea vaguely)
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If you’re trying to make yourself better about your use or cocaine than sure it is probably less taxing on the body than Clen... in fact is it? The reason you wouldn’t run Clen that long is because such a drug needs to be in your system all the time. If you were to do cocaine litterally 24/7 would you really think you could do it 2-3 years straight without some real damages? I doubt it. So is it really less nasty than something like Clen? Who am I to say that. Just wanted you to see another perspective
 
merch said:
take my words with all due respect, because I do not know you and I would never disrespect you but what you said is ignorance, it was ruled out that the right amount of cardarina leads to cancer, were given dosage to rats so high that if I gave you the same report but you would die of paracetamol, this, and there are studies where he says that in some cases he caused the tumors to go back down, find me a person who reported that cancer came from there after use of the cardarina, because in rats it came after 12 weeks of use therefore very quickly, the rats although similar to the human genome have some different things and I repeat the dosages were high, it was as if a person took 250/300 mg of cardarine daily, dosages for more than a month in a single day, try taking 60 capsules of paracetamol which is the dose of one month and you will see that the cancer will be the least of your problems, this was just to explain, as Solely respect bro, only purely for informational purposes
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i think he was joking.
 
merch said:
take my words with all due respect, because I do not know you and I would never disrespect you but what you said is ignorance, it was ruled out that the right amount of cardarina leads to cancer, were given dosage to rats so high that if I gave you the same report but you would die of paracetamol, this, and there are studies where he says that in some cases he caused the tumors to go back down, find me a person who reported that cancer came from there after use of the cardarina, because in rats it came after 12 weeks of use therefore very quickly, the rats although similar to the human genome have some different things and I repeat the dosages were high, it was as if a person took 250/300 mg of cardarine daily, dosages for more than a month in a single day, try taking 60 capsules of paracetamol which is the dose of one month and you will see that the cancer will be the least of your problems, this was just to explain, as Solely respect bro, only purely for informational purposes
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I appreciate the respect brother (truly). But you're wrong on this. It has NEVER been ruled out that the "right amount" of Cardarine can cause cancer. (I wish you were right).
You were right about one thing though.... They gave rats larger than recommended doses. ... Because that is the way that health-risk tests are done with rats. Any tests that have ever shown to "cause cancer in rats" has been done with larger than recommended doses of whatever substance they are testing. So, we can throw out the Cardarine tests because of high dosing if we choose to ... But then we'll have to do the same with all the other tests.
Disclosure here ... I sometimes take Cardarine myself. I wasn't advocating for not using it. I was more trying to point out the absurdity of this situation that you're presenting.
Stop doing the cocaine. (Or tell him to stop, whatever the case may be). But I'm not going to recommend throwing other drugs at it to try and lesson the chance of death.
Cocaine does cause death. Shown in (very unauthorized) human trials, across the country, for decades.
 
merch said:
'll tell you a brief experience, I took my eca stack before going to the gym to get some energy and I wanted to push really hard that day, at a certain point I started feeling anxious, my hands trembling, my heart beating at 175 / 180 (from the clock so we all know that he is going bust) practically it was as if I had a strong anxiety attack with heavy breathing, tried (155/80) high but not very high pressure, I take the cardarina after 20 minutes I am new, pressure 115/65, and the heart was back on the 75 80 beats, it may have been that I stopped but in my opinion it was also the cardarine
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Those are normal numbers for activity, and normal numbers for discontinuing activity.
The cardarine played no part in that.
 
Renew1 said:
I appreciate the respect brother (truly). But you're wrong on this. It has NEVER been ruled out that the "right amount" of Cardarine can cause cancer. (I wish you were right).
You were right about one thing though.... They gave rats larger than recommended doses. ... Because that is the way that health-risk tests are done with rats. Any tests that have ever shown to "cause cancer in rats" has been done with larger than recommended doses of whatever substance they are testing. So, we can throw out the Cardarine tests because of high dosing if we choose to ... But then we'll have to do the same with all the other tests.
Disclosure here ... I sometimes take Cardarine myself. I wasn't advocating for not using it. I was more trying to point out the absurdity of this situation that you're presenting.
Stop doing the cocaine. (Or tell him to stop, whatever the case may be). But I'm not going to recommend throwing other drugs at it to try and lesson the chance of death.
Cocaine does cause death. Shown in (very unauthorized) human trials, across the country, for decades.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Just finished this insanity of a thread to comment practically this same thing^
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Renew1 said:
I appreciate the respect brother (truly). But you're wrong on this. It has NEVER been ruled out that the "right amount" of Cardarine can cause cancer. (I wish you were right).
You were right about one thing though.... They gave rats larger than recommended doses. ... Because that is the way that health-risk tests are done with rats. Any tests that have ever shown to "cause cancer in rats" has been done with larger than recommended doses of whatever substance they are testing. So, we can throw out the Cardarine tests because of high dosing if we choose to ... But then we'll have to do the same with all the other tests.
Disclosure here ... I sometimes take Cardarine myself. I wasn't advocating for not using it. I was more trying to point out the absurdity of this situation that you're presenting.
Stop doing the cocaine. (Or tell him to stop, whatever the case may be). But I'm not going to recommend throwing other drugs at it to try and lesson the chance of death.
Cocaine does cause death. Shown in (very unauthorized) human trials, across the country, for decades.
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on the fact that cocaine is harmful to the body is completely true (I study medicine I am not a fool) damage to the arteries, too high differences between maximum and minimum pressure that indicate a cardiac effort, dopamine depletion which leads at first to impotence and raising prolactin and other things that I am not explaining and high probability of contracting Parkinson's, quiet guys I don't use that stuff, for me ephedrine is the maximum stimulant I would use, the clen I don't like and 'easy wrong and has a half-life too long, the thing about respect is because we are all here to learn, unfortunately there is always the ignorant as the message above (I think it's joking) that wants to be a teacher, the arguments should be exposed and argued as you did and as it should be, however remember one thing, it is not the drug that kills but the abuse, if one once every 1/2 month uses a dose of mdma or c oca is almost impossible that something will ever happen, not for nothing the use of an aspirin a day in a study has been compared to the level of damage to the same damage as one who uses cocaine once a week, and it is the bad information that kills people, not drugs, if I (I'm talking about myself now, I don't say my friend for mascondermi, in that case, he is the one who has the problem of coca) I use mdma once I will almost certainly not damage if and 'true mdma, but if I'm ignorant I'm under ssri and I'm going to use it here is a one-way ticket for a beautiful serotoninergic crisis, with this I apologize for leaving the subject but I cared about this thing, (in brackets for say bad information, we all take coffee, oh well no, not because I know what it does, go see the thousands of victims that caffeine does every year, you don't have to say things just to hear people say because if I tell you the quiet coffee does nothing for you of quietly without knowing that you are poisoning yourself, caffeine gives you the same addiction as amphetamines, only you don't notice it because for the community it is normal to use coffee)
 
Matthersby said:
Those are normal numbers for activity, and normal numbers for discontinuing activity.
The cardarine played no part in that.
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you'd be right if there wasn't a panic attack with asthma, tachycardia, etc., it would have been normal that it was the body that had calmed down but I waited 30 minutes before I came to mind that I had the cardarina and up to that I did not take the symptoms remained, but it could be like you say who can say it
 
with this boy I thank you and I believe that the best advice that has been given is to try and somehow tell them that the wound should be healed and a plaster should not be put, my heart is crying to see people ruin like that, but not only illegally, an example they are also the balls that use benzodiazepines to sleep without knowing that they want male as cocaine (an accredited study demonstrates the use of benzodiazepines for more than 4 weeks increases the possibility of halzaimer by 61 percent and after six months of use the sales at 84%, these are data that give us goose bumps, we should never put anything that we don't already have inside our bodies, but unfortunately we do it)
 
Did you come here and ask for peoples opinion to completly refuse all of it and call them ignorant? That’s typical... wish you all the best! Don’t do too much drugs you’ll be fine. I did worse
 
Mathb33 said:
Did you come here and ask for peoples opinion to completly refuse all of it and call them ignorant? That’s typical... wish you all the best! Don’t do too much drugs you’ll be fine. I did worse
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I don't use drugs besides the test and the eca stack, I gave the ignorant only to what he wrote this is joking, to the others I thanked him because they were kind, but in the head you have the stones or the drugs that you said that you said are you made that made you so?
 
I am 100% sure that you misunderstood what I wanted to say because unfortunately I speak very badly English to ask, probably extorted the translator who knows who will receive
 
merch said:
I am 100% sure that you misunderstood what I wanted to say because unfortunately I speak very badly English to ask, probably extorted the translator who knows who will receive
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There is definitely a partial communication barrier.
Take care, man.
 
merch said:
I don't use drugs besides the test and the eca stack, I gave the ignorant only to what he wrote this is joking, to the others I thanked him because they were kind, but in the head you have the stones or the drugs that you said that you said are you made that made you so?
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??
 
Renew1 said:
There is definitely a partial communication barrier.
Take care, man.
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I thank you, if everyone will be like you, they will be able to keep quiet speeches without showing who has it longer (like many keyboard lions do)
 
I hate to break it to you but cocaine causes permanent damage to the cardiac muscle (the muscles in the heart). There is no way to reverse this damage currently. That’s coming from cardiologists I train that work in the pulmonary section of various hospitals.
 
ChocolateClen said:
I hate to break it to you but cocaine causes permanent damage to the cardiac muscle (the muscles in the heart). There is no way to reverse this damage currently. That’s coming from cardiologists I train that work in the pulmonary section of various hospitals.
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exactly, I am not a doctor like you (at least I think I understand you are) but I study medicine, as in fact I wrote a few posts higher creates heart damage so strong that it is enough and advances to stay away from it (because otherwise the cocaine we say magnifying the thing is quite tolerated by our body BUT not by our heart, it is not like alcohol that if you stop in time it is reversible (sometimes)
 
merch said:
exactly, I am not a doctor like you (at least I think I understand you are) but I study medicine, as in fact I wrote a few posts higher creates heart damage so strong that it is enough and advances to stay away from it (because otherwise the cocaine we say magnifying the thing is quite tolerated by our body BUT not by our heart, it is not like alcohol that if you stop in time it is reversible (sometimes)
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I’m not a doctor lol but thanks for thinking I was. I just do a lot of research and I try to understand how the body works. It’s my job technically.

The heart is very special muscle, in terms of what it has in it, it’s ability to polarize and depolarize itself, it’s general structure etc. It truly is quite amazing what the heart can do.
 
ChocolateClen said:
I’m not a doctor lol but thanks for thinking I was. I just do a lot of research and I try to understand how the body works. It’s my job technically.

The heart is very special muscle, in terms of what it has in it, it’s ability to polarize and depolarize itself, it’s general structure etc. It truly is quite amazing what the heart can do.
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ChocolateClen said:
I’m not a doctor lol but thanks for thinking I was. I just do a lot of research and I try to understand how the body works. It’s my job technically.

The heart is very special muscle, in terms of what it has in it, it’s ability to polarize and depolarize itself, it’s general structure etc. It truly is quite amazing what the heart can do.
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well there are many people who are passionate about pharmacology who honestly know more than doctors sometimes haha :), anyway you are right I could ascertain myself (as I wrote above) once I used cocaine (I never said I didn't have it proven, I do not use it is different) and the pressure was 160 the maximum and 77 the minimum, so large gaps between maximum and minimum are the symptom that the heart is suffering, it would hurt less to have 160/100, more detachment and 'big plus there is an effort in the heart, then not to mention that is just like the clen, it makes you swell
 
Mathb33 said:
Did you come here and ask for peoples opinion to completly refuse all of it and call them ignorant? That’s typical... wish you all the best! Don’t do too much drugs you’ll be fine. I did worse
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Bruh, Nobody comes on here to ask advice and then argues with all of it, just to make the decision they were already going to make.
Nobody.
That’s crazy talk.

And another thing. When it’s “my friend” it really is his friend. He’s just a really good friend.

In other news, cardarine reversed my methamphetamine weekend. Dude, I swear that stuff is like having a real life remote control to rewind the damage away.
 
😂😂 well **** it dude I’m back to a full liquor bottle every night and ima just add a lil cardarine in the mix
 
I once saw Cardarine clear out a barroom full of Navy Seals single-handedly .... without breaking a sweat.

.... And I usually don't mention this, but Cardarine saved my life TWICE in 'Nam.
 
Renew1 said:
I once saw Cardarine clear out a barroom full of Navy Seals single-handedly .... without breaking a sweat.

.... And I usually don't mention this, but Cardarine saved my life TWICE in 'Nam.
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Lmao! That’s good info right there. That you’re freaking old as hell I mean.
 
If I really thought that it would, I'd never run it. But I do always advise everyone to make up their own minds. :-)
 
Renew1 said:
If I really thought that it would, I'd never run it. But I do always advise everyone to make up their own minds. :-)
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Clen was saying earlier that TB500 and BPC may have a greater chance of accelerating cancer cell growth a whole lot faster than Cardarine ever could. From what little I still remember from Oncology clinicals in nursing school, I would agree.
 
Matthersby said:
Clen was saying earlier that TB500 and BPC may have a greater chance of accelerating cancer cell growth a whole lot faster than Cardarine ever could. From what little I still remember from Oncology clinicals in nursing school, I would agree.
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That sounds reasonable to me. But I really don't have enough solid info on the subject to have a strong opinion either way.
 
Renew1 said:
That sounds reasonable to me. But I really don't have enough solid info on the subject to have a strong opinion either way.
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I would think you would have to already have had some abnormal tissue development for it to speed up its development.
I don’t really think any of these could GIVE me cancer because I currently use all 3.
I guess nobody gets this, but TB500 for me, even at low doses, will flush my upper body and face so bad, it looks like my head will explode. Not sure how good that is, but it legitimizes my source, that’s for sure, increased blood flow no doubt.
 
Then, we wanted to try, I had a bit of cardarina and I decided to give them 20 mg (no more because it is precious for me ahaha then if it will want if he goes to buy with his money ahha) he took over within an hour not a huge amount of coca (at least he says it's normal) two lines of 100 mg said, let's wait until it reaches the peak and I measure the pressure (attention I used the one with the column of mercury not the Chinese ones that every time I try high, the values were 157/98 beat 115/120 oscillated (we tried it three times) administered 20 mg of cardarine, 25/30 minutes later we try again the pressure ...... awesome 129/62 beat 82 , practically a person at rest, obviously the test cannot be applied in general because we did everything with him sitting he was not in motion, maybe they would have been taller if he had been but he would have lowered her, I tell you another anecdote, I don't do it here yes never cardio but I take cardarine 16 weeks on and 4 weeks off and at rest my heart beats between 55 and 60, when I sleep it also touches 35, before starting to use it my heartbeat was always between 75 and 85, so I would say that if one wants to have fun one evening (please one evening not every day) this can be a valid help to increase the safety of the experience and above all if you know that you are safer I think that you also risk fewer anxiety attacks, with me it would not work anyway because I am predisposed to anxiety in fact I use therapeutic cannabis, I hope that this test can be of help to you, and remember once a month we are already at the limit of safety not listening that tells you quiet on weekends you can, because from the weekend it goes then also to the Wednesday, then because no Thursday and it ends chronic, I have talked with my friend however of his addiction and I have advised him to turn to a doctor in order to give him something to placate the symptoms of abstinence, (surely it will give them the poison called Diazepam that everyone will know) but better to use that 8 weeks and it is enough that having to change nose every 8 weeks and heart every 10
 
Matthersby said:
I would think you would have to already have had some abnormal tissue development for it to speed up its development.
I don’t really think any of these could GIVE me cancer because I currently use all 3.
I guess nobody gets this, but TB500 for me, even at low doses, will flush my upper body and face so bad, it looks like my head will explode. Not sure how good that is, but it legitimizes my source, that’s for sure, increased blood flow no doubt.
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Niacin used to make me real flushed. I used to hate to go anywhere after I took it, because I felt like people might think I was high. LOL.
 
update, retested the pressure now, beat increased to 95 but the pressure is now 121/64, practically perfect, perhaps the least few low points but it is very strange, used dice that has not fallen but I am son convinced that it is even going down, you can't reduce the pressure by 37 points, it's really a considerable amount! we are almost at the levels of the sedatives, but with those nuts that considering falls as well as the pressure, here instead it acted only on the pressure, now I make them do 5 minutes of slow walk on the tapiroulant to see if it holds everything, with the beats we are still in safe area but in my opinion already above 100 beats I call it tachycardias
 
Matthersby said:
Clen was saying earlier that TB500 and BPC may have a greater chance of accelerating cancer cell growth a whole lot faster than Cardarine ever could. From what little I still remember from Oncology clinicals in nursing school, I would agree.
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From my own reading I was ok with gw, tb500 and bpc in regards to cancer (and use all three).....

There are talks of links between increased igf and cancer as well though so long term gh (or mk plus cjc etc) has that potential negative. In the same breath we of course now of the many benefits that increased gh levels can bring as we age so **** knows what **** we should or shouldn’t take.......my personal plan is to keep using the many various things I do for another few years and when I’ve achieved the body comp I want to ease off and have at least 6 months a year on nothing at all. Doesn’t guarantee anything but my gut feel is that for any of these compounds to cause issues probably needs constant long term use.....
 
Whisky said:
From my own reading I was ok with gw, tb500 and bpc in regards to cancer (and use all three).....

There are talks of links between increased igf and cancer as well though so long term gh (or mk plus cjc etc) has that potential negative. In the same breath we of course now of the many benefits that increased gh levels can bring as we age so **** knows what **** we should or shouldn’t take.......my personal plan is to keep using the many various things I do for another few years and when I’ve achieved the body comp I want to ease off and have at least 6 months a year on nothing at all. Doesn’t guarantee anything but my gut feel is that for any of these compounds to cause issues probably needs constant long term use.....
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Same.
After March next year, I’ll have done a competition and have no reason to put much more than a TRT dose and an occasional summer cutting cycle into my body.
One big goal soon and then the money I put into this stuff, I’ll use for traveling instead.
**** gets expensive too.
 
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