DWeaver
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He must be real busy. I bought my wife the skin care package for her birthday on 7/28 and it hasn’t been shipped yet. I PM’d him and left emails but haven’t heard back. Her birthday is 8/13. Yikes
BMP™ Improved Formula Presale
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He must be real busy. I bought my wife the skin care package for her birthday on 7/28 and it hasn’t been shipped yet. I PM’d him and left emails but haven’t heard back. Her birthday is 8/13. Yikes
Raw Dog
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Similar situation with the FSC package. I know he does business a lot differently than other companies and has been very busy lately so I’m trying to be patient here. Hoping for a resolution once the BMP madness dies down. Any other company I’d have cancelled the order long ago, but I appreciate the innovation and formula quality that I’m not going to find elsewhere so I’ll wait it out a bit longer. Been looking forward to trying these for awhile haha, only used java lather as far as his skin care stuff goes but I do love that ****
booneman77
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Sparta12
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Now you are being greedy hahaha
booneman77
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Ricky10
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I bought the couture gift bag too....for myself! Not getting any younger and I am also excited to receive it. I ordered on 7/13 and also ended up PM’ing Matt a few days ago to inquire about the order. Appears to be on the way now! We should start a thread about our thoughts once we start it. There doesn’t seem to be much feedback on here about it, and nothing recent period.
Raw Dog
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Not seeing anything on mine yet, hopefully something soon. Did you guys previously get shipment notifications? I got one with tracking the end of June and was pleasantly surprised as he mentioned it was delayed. Package never shipped though so just assumed he was waiting on stock.
I did plan to cover it in my log. I agree we need more feedback on these products, I couldn’t find much at all when I was considering ordering. Haven’t really had a product from evomuse/old genomyx that I didn’t enjoy though so figured it was worth a shot.
DWeaver
Well-known member
Yeah I got a tracking notification and my product will be here tomorrow
Ricky10
Well-known member
I didn’t get a shipment notification until yesterday...nothing prior to that. I also just decided to take the gamble too...I have never even used the Java lather. The gift bag was definitely a reasonable price as the creams are supposed to last a few months.
I don’t really have any eye wrinkles, but my forehead has two big ones! I think it’s because I always have a ”what the fuk” expression on my face. Especially when around people..
If it helps with these...I will be quite impressed!
TreatnHerRigt
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I actually took pictures. @dsade
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Sparta12
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Is that Gon from Hunter x Hunter? haha
TreatnHerRigt
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Hell yeah!
Raw Dog
Active member
Same thing here as far as the wrinkles go, just a couple big ones on my forehead.
No update on my order yet though hopefully something soon. Let me know if yours ships.
Edit- according to the order status on the evomuse site it says the order was fulfilled, but the tracking number never got updated with usps past pre shipment. Wonder if this is one of the ones that got stolen
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roidsarebad
New member
Mine go “3D” from time to time, but haven’t since starting BMP. Quick temperature changes seem to do it to mine sometimes, like coming inside to cold AC from hot outside.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
Any order issues hit me up. They didn't scan in individual packages from the "huge order drop" days. I'm trying the best I can to keep my eyes on the shipments page, but it's not exactly friendly.
For the tattoos (I don't want to get into this yet as it's an essential part of my Syn Fyrm formula as well as the upcoming Flawless IDRT upgrade....and the Virile Mane current upgrade)...
Some depends on how new they are, as well as the robustness of your natural healing processes. This is LONG but worth the read:
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A quicker, shorter read....
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Once your skin "realizes" that the ink isn't going anywhere, the response should normalize. It's nothing to be concerned with - it's not going to ruin your artwork.
I'll post more as I can organize it...been cleaning up some PITA legal issues with some dirty cops that really has me questioning my dedication to this country.
For the tattoos (I don't want to get into this yet as it's an essential part of my Syn Fyrm formula as well as the upcoming Flawless IDRT upgrade....and the Virile Mane current upgrade)...
Some depends on how new they are, as well as the robustness of your natural healing processes. This is LONG but worth the read:
WRONG LINK...NOW I CAN'T FIND THE ORIGINAL PAPER/...
A quicker, shorter read....
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Once your skin "realizes" that the ink isn't going anywhere, the response should normalize. It's nothing to be concerned with - it's not going to ruin your artwork.
I'll post more as I can organize it...been cleaning up some PITA legal issues with some dirty cops that really has me questioning my dedication to this country.
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TreatnHerRigt
New member
Awesome, thanks for the response and link. I wasn't really worried just wondering if it was normal. It comes once a day since I've started, (4days). And subsides within a few hours so nothing bad, I'm definitely not stopping it haha! Just a little itch!
Thanks!
Thanks!
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
The original Flawless IDRT formula was actually designed as a specialty product to heal tattoos faster, and solidify the brightness, lines, and color of new ink. The functionality was expanded after really digging in to the injury and healing processes, and the formation of scar tissue from fibroblast development gone awry.
This finally morphed into Skyn Fyrm, as loose skin following fat loss or pregnancy is really fibroblast (and skin matrix) structures gone WAY out of whack.
SIDE NOTE: BMP, provided you are providing some kind of simulated injury stimulus, should help tighten skin. Running some in ouse testing currently.
Raw Dog
Active member
This is good to know. After losing over 40 pounds I feel like I have a bit on my abdomen. Trying to decide when to start my run. Not sure if I want to start BMP during month 2 of my Anabolic Effect run or wait until that is done. Will be logging either way though
Angjbd24
New member
Anything on #6998 ? shot ya an email a few weeks ago about the situation. Thanks!
dsade
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I think I know exactly who's doing it. After watching for quite some time, and actually having on of the front clerks finally ask me "What the hell smells SO good in your mail?" (this was a few months ago) I brought her some J
I will get this resent today, with a bunch of extras for you. My apologies on the FSC stuff.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
For those that have been hitting me up about Nerve Restore, while it's not the full formula I have to say that now 2 weeks in, the BMP is improving both my spinal structural integrity (not so much popping like a loose wooden kitchen chair) and my sciatica quite a decent amount.
I also realized how much farther we've come with the writeup format, but here is from the NR writeup:
Salidroside
Where does it come from?
Salidroside comes from the Rhodiola Rosea plant and is well known for its numerous health promoting properties.
What does it do?
Several studies have demonstrated salidroside's neuroprotective ability (10–13). Due to this effect, researchers wondered if salidroside might be able to help recovery from sciatic nerve injuries, so they tested it out. In rats with sciatic nerve crush injuries, they looked at several factors, including nerve conduction speed and walking tests. The results showed that salidroside was indeed able to successfully regenerate nerve function (14).
I also realized how much farther we've come with the writeup format, but here is from the NR writeup:
Salidroside
Where does it come from?
Salidroside comes from the Rhodiola Rosea plant and is well known for its numerous health promoting properties.
What does it do?
Several studies have demonstrated salidroside's neuroprotective ability (10–13). Due to this effect, researchers wondered if salidroside might be able to help recovery from sciatic nerve injuries, so they tested it out. In rats with sciatic nerve crush injuries, they looked at several factors, including nerve conduction speed and walking tests. The results showed that salidroside was indeed able to successfully regenerate nerve function (14).
dsade
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One of the first studies that confirmed my BMP hypothesis. The timing was beautiful, as it came a few months after the initial design was complete. This was an exhilarating time, as there wasn't a whole lot for me to work off of.
Why am I posting this? Well, this is a very simple understanding. As well, to draw attention to the BMP-Myostatin connection for the upcoming, VERY EXCITING, MyoSynergy announcement.
Those lucky enough to have experienced the original BMP/MyoSynergy stack are in for a treat.
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Abstract
Cell size is determined by the balance between protein synthesis and degradation. This equilibrium is affected by hormones, nutrients, energy levels, mechanical stress and cytokines. Mutations that inactivate myostatin lead to excessive muscle growth in animals and humans, but the signals and pathways responsible for this hypertrophy remain largely unknown. Here we show that bone morphogenetic protein (BMP) signaling, acting through Smad1, Smad5 and Smad8 (Smad1/5/8), is the fundamental hypertrophic signal in mice. Inhibition of BMP signaling causes muscle atrophy, abolishes the hypertrophic phenotype of myostatin-deficient mice and strongly exacerbates the effects of denervation and fasting. BMP-Smad1/5/8 signaling negatively regulates a gene (Fbxo30) that encodes a ubiquitin ligase required for muscle loss, which we named muscle ubiquitin ligase of the SCF complex in atrophy-1 (MUSA1). Collectively, these data identify a critical role for the BMP pathway in adult muscle maintenance, growth and atrophy.
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Why am I posting this? Well, this is a very simple understanding. As well, to draw attention to the BMP-Myostatin connection for the upcoming, VERY EXCITING, MyoSynergy announcement.
Those lucky enough to have experienced the original BMP/MyoSynergy stack are in for a treat.
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Abstract
Cell size is determined by the balance between protein synthesis and degradation. This equilibrium is affected by hormones, nutrients, energy levels, mechanical stress and cytokines. Mutations that inactivate myostatin lead to excessive muscle growth in animals and humans, but the signals and pathways responsible for this hypertrophy remain largely unknown. Here we show that bone morphogenetic protein (BMP) signaling, acting through Smad1, Smad5 and Smad8 (Smad1/5/8), is the fundamental hypertrophic signal in mice. Inhibition of BMP signaling causes muscle atrophy, abolishes the hypertrophic phenotype of myostatin-deficient mice and strongly exacerbates the effects of denervation and fasting. BMP-Smad1/5/8 signaling negatively regulates a gene (Fbxo30) that encodes a ubiquitin ligase required for muscle loss, which we named muscle ubiquitin ligase of the SCF complex in atrophy-1 (MUSA1). Collectively, these data identify a critical role for the BMP pathway in adult muscle maintenance, growth and atrophy.
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[Indexed for MEDLINE]
dsade
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My BMP research was initially inspired by something that people in large, developing cities see every day - the construction of skyscrapers.
I had been driving in downtown Columbus as they were putting up a 2o something story hotel, and it was simply the steel skeleton. I had been toying with the idea of fundamental structures, namely the human body, and began to suspect that the skeleton/bone balance was THE key determination of everything built upon is, and that there had to also be a fundamental signaling pathway controlled by bone strength.
If you have defective steel in your skycraper, the resulting structure will be weak. Thus, translating the analogy, a weak/defective skeletal structure will result in a defective body and substandard physique.
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If you have defective steel in your skycraper, the resulting structure will be weak. Thus, translating the analogy, a weak/defective skeletal structure will result in a defective body and substandard physique.
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dsade
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Meniscus is pretty much a chondrocyte-type/like cell. BMP triggers repair of these types of cells, in addition to (Disclaiminer: MAY) enhancing/repairing nerve injuries. Have you been squatting or putting new type of pressure on it?
It's possible that even after all this time, the body is suddenly trying to repair it.
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In this study, hESCs were cultured with growth factors (TGF-β3, BMP-2, BMP-4, BMP-6, PDGF-BB, sonic hedgehog protein), and/or primary cells (chondrocyte or fibrochondrocytes) for 3 wks. Following this time, their ability to produce GAGs and collagen types I, III, and VI was assayed, along with the presence of certain surface markers (CD105, CD44, SSEA, PDGFRa). Following comparison of these treatments, results showed that the combination of TGF-β3 with BMP-4 yielded embryoid bodies positive for collagen type I, II, and VI with 6.7 and 4.8-fold increases in GAG and collagen, respectively. Also, co-culture with fibrochondrocytes led to 9.8-fold increases in collagen II production. Results from this study point to the suitability of hESCs for meniscal tissue engineering and highlight at least 3 effective strategies to create hESC-derived fibrocartilage [Invalid Link Removed].
scoooter
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Thanks for the response
"It's possible that even after all this time, the body is suddenly trying to repair it."
This was my thought.
I've not put any abnormal excess weight / pressure on this joint
Mostly wanted to query the group to learn if anyone else had been noticing the same.
"It's possible that even after all this time, the body is suddenly trying to repair it."
This was my thought.
I've not put any abnormal excess weight / pressure on this joint
Mostly wanted to query the group to learn if anyone else had been noticing the same.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
Gotcha.
What we have to realize is that the BMP family/pathway is one of THE most potent and ubiquitous growth stimulating/repair pathways in the entire human body.
I'm extremely excited about the effect on skin, as we finally are zeroing in on the primary anabolic mechanism for repairing and reviving loose skin, even years after injury from weight gain or pregnancy.
dsade
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I think it's because BMP hasn't ever really been explored like this. People are "used" to hormones and androgens, and I think that's the "feel" they are expecting.
I'm not going to comment with my own experience other than what I have, just to say that the improvements are incredible and I am SO happy with what's going on.
THe MyoSynergy experiment should be ready to roll in about a week or so, and testing will only take a couple of weeks - then I will be ready to roll it out. You guys are going to love it, I promise.
Even with the crap I'm dealing with, and the rest of the world apparently on the brink of chaos, this is turning out to be an epic year of creativity for me.
_Endure_
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Well I wonder as you say maybe it is a different type of recovery. If it can help with such injuries perhaps it's really helping moreso on the overtraining (hate the word)/straining/physiological trauma a bit moreso than on the muscle soreness/DOMS side. I think all of our minds are primarily programmed heavily in terms of soreness being a recovery factor. Again just theorizing, but find it interesting.
GreenMachineX
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This is mostly why I decided to skip the BMP, and give it to my wife instead. Diagnosed with sarcoidosis a few years ago, being stable with that now, but just don’t know if that growth stimulation could be a problem? Then the whole p-glycoprotein thing with my telmisartan, but less concerned with that. But with all my old injuries and loose saggy skin, BMP could’ve really been helpful...
dsade
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You've been a.good customer for years. I can send you another bottle.This is mostly why I decided to skip the BMP, and give it to my wife instead. Diagnosed with sarcoidosis a few years ago, being stable with that now, but just don’t know if that growth stimulation could be a problem? Then the whole p-glycoprotein thing with my telmisartan, but less concerned with that. But with all my old injuries and loose saggy skin, BMP could’ve really been helpful...
I also stumbled across some more GlycoMyx that I know you like.
GreenMachineX
Well-known member
GLYCOMYX!!!! That stuff really needs to catch on! That daggone keto trend...lol
Definitely want pounds of that Glycomyx!
But as far as the BMP, I have plenty! I’m good. Definitely appreciate it but really, I was just hoping you were going to say “nah, BMP pathways have no influence on sarcoidosis.”
PM coming in a few!
mase1
Well-known member
Waiting on that skyn fyrm? Yeah Dsade knows I gave mine to my wife, I will be posting results. Unfortunately she just had sinus plasty due to having a sinus infection for 8+ months, and won't start for a couple weeks. So close to using her bottles after reading all of this info. Lol.
bubbabignuts
Member
I'm interested trying BMP after my run with anabolic effect. How does BMP compare to other natty anabolics?
DWeaver
Well-known member
This may have absolutely nothing to do with BMP but for whatever reason my body odor is rank at the end of the day the last 2 weeks after starting it. Now I work on high end industrial A/C units and I’m outside a lot and it’s been 90ish so obviously I’m gonna sweat quite a bit. BMP is the only change I’ve made. Also you’ve covered the bone/joint healing, will BMP also help with muscle scar tissue? My calves are ate up with scar tissue and my MD or PT’s have no idea why. I get these intense cramp/Charlie horses that take me to my knees when I run. The only thing that has helped was about 4 months ago my PT started dry needling. This is pretty painful but it changed my life. I run/sprint intervals 3-4 times a week were the last 15 years I couldn’t run at all. I’ve noticed after starting BMP my calves get really sore for a day or so but I’m having no issues while running.
big_jewels
Member
I wrote this on facebook earlier, I've noted after 3 days of BMP use that my piriformis syndrome "pseudo sciatica" has calmed quite bit. I'm very pleased as this is my only hampering injury left and the only thing I've added to my life has been BMP.. Took a before picture and journaling progress.
schizm
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Just started week 2 on BMP, Extremely interested in any effect on loose skin it may have. I was an obese kid/teen until age 19 then I dropped about about 75lbs and my ab and low back skin never did fully regain its elasticity. I'm 43 now, hate taking my shirt off even in front of the wife.
Ptlhains
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Pre-workout for sure on an empty stomach and then later in the day (like around dinner or early evening).
The Solution
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Take upon waking and another dose later
Fasted doesn't matter. I do that everyday.
dsade
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Salidroside can have a stim effect. Just try to break dosage up to twice a day, though the preworkout dose does seem to be important.
We have two difficulties...half-life of the actual compounds, and "half-life" of the resulting BMP proteins. While we likely have a half-life of the formula (and p-GP inhibition) of 4-6 hours, it's too complex to calculate the rest.
dsade
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Crap, I'm glad you posted in this thread. Got wrapped up in a few things and I'm heading to the gym now (430pm). I'll be taking my BMP, first time this late, and I will report back.
If you tend towards insomnia or stim sensitivity, then I would take the second dose early in the day. If you're one of those freaks that loves working out at 5am, honestly you have bigger mental problems to worry about. I hate you people. :::HITS SNOOZE BUTTON:::