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Unanswered Comparing test/mast to tren and tren controversy

Can you elaborate on the hpta benefits please, or anyone else, thanks.
Apologies if its already posted but i couldn't see anything
Well, proviron definitely is suppressive. Much less than most of the other stuff. Again, depends on the dose and duration of the use.
If you are thinking about using it during pct, my advice is not to.
Off cycle i would maybe use it for a "sexual" boost here and there maybe.
 
Remembering that there are no stupid questions, sub q means under the skin but not intra/m right? Can any aas be done sub q? Feel like i have a serious knowledge gap here because i always thought you had to go i/m
 
Remembering that there are no stupid questions, sub q means under the skin but not intra/m right? Can any aas be done sub q? Feel like i have a serious knowledge gap here because i always thought you had to go i/m
Subcutaneous = into the fat under the skin.

That is what i am trying to find out. A lot of guys pin test e/cyp for their trt sub q(small volumes, up to 0.5ml has been quoted).

That being said, i dont see why i couldnt pin, say 0.25ml of tren subQ if i can pin 0.25ml test e subq. It is till a steroid in an oily solution. Only problem i see is if some heavy solvent is used.
 
@Jeremyk1 takes a lot of time for the post to appear sometimes, you dont have to click again and again. I just refresh the page and its there.

Well, I’m basically a Neanderthal trying to use an iPhone. I click once, doesn’t work, I click again! Thanks, I’ll try this next time.
 
Im having a hard time following this thread cause i dont really understand what the topic is anymore. Tren cough I've never experienced and i can't seem to grasp how its possible to get it. Maybe i got no veins.

You can pin it sub q probably. Small amount of aas is really safe sure but almost useless if you're not old.
 
Im having a hard time following this thread cause i dont really understand what the topic is anymore. Tren cough I've never experienced and i can't seem to grasp how its possible to get it. Maybe i got no veins.

You can pin it sub q probably. Small amount of aas is really safe sure but almost useless if you're not old.
Its tren, i have to see how i react first.
i agree with you though. I certainly wont experience crazy (positive) results. Just trying to push my physique in the right direction a tiny bit.
 
Its tren, i have to see how i react first.
i agree with you though. I certainly wont experience crazy (positive) results. Just trying to push my physique in the right direction a tiny bit.


I can appreciate people beating cautious but at some point its just too low and then you might as well spend money on food or treats for yourself :). You can definitely start low but im positive you won't notice either sides or benefits when microdosing if youre young.
 
I can appreciate people beating cautious but at some point its just too low and then you might as well spend money on food or treats for yourself :). You can definitely start low but im positive you won't notice either sides or benefits when microdosing if youre young.
Well it is a trial run for the next season so it will be used properly next year.
That being said, i might bump the dose up a liiiiitle bit (oh sh1t there i said it) IF sides are tolerable.
 
Im having a hard time following this thread cause i dont really understand what the topic is anymore. Tren cough I've never experienced and i can't seem to grasp how its possible to get it. Maybe i got no veins.

You can pin it sub q probably. Small amount of aas is really safe sure but almost useless if you're not old.
I thought I was a weirdo for never getting tren cough.. And I've probably done a full cow's worth lol
 
Well it is a trial run for the next season so it will be used properly next year.
That being said, i might bump the dose up a liiiiitle bit (oh sh1t there i said it) IF sides are tolerable.


Haha i get it, im not sure wether its helpful cause i think most people will tolerate any steroid at really low dosage and even the strongest steroids will be weak at a low dosage. Id say you want somewhere between 150-200mg to get any results. If you cut you could be fine but i dont see tren doing its magic at too low dosage while bulking.
 
Haha i get it, im not sure wether its helpful cause i think most people will tolerate any steroid at really low dosage and even the strongest steroids will be weak at a low dosage. Id say you want somewhere between 150-200mg to get any results. If you cut you could be fine but i dont see tren doing its magic at too low dosage while bulking.
My last run before getting hurt was a vial of mix.. Ended up doing 70mg a week for maybe 6-7 weeks and then up to 100mg 'til maybe week 10. I was bulking. The love handles, etc didn't melt away like I would have seen with a moderate dose but I still had minor league sleep disturbance and sweatiness..toward the end I stopped lifting cuz of injury and bumped tren up to 200 to stop catabolism and maintained weight.. Only those last couple weeks did I see the typical tren reduction in visceral fat.. Sides were the same..so I guess micro dose didn't do what I hoped it would at least during a bulk
 
I thought I was a weirdo for never getting tren cough.. And I've probably done a full cow's worth lol


Nope never got it. I was scared to death the first time, second time different ester and people were raving about how one was worse than the other, again nothing. Its no different to any other thing ive used.
 
Haha i get it, im not sure wether its helpful cause i think most people will tolerate any steroid at really low dosage and even the strongest steroids will be weak at a low dosage. Id say you want somewhere between 150-200mg to get any results. If you cut you could be fine but i dont see tren doing its magic at too low dosage while bulking.
Goal is to recomp a bit. We will see though.
 
Goal is to recomp a bit. We will see though.


It works but the difference with tren just from 200-400 is night and day and i can't see how under 200 would do much. The sides are also way worse for me. 400 and i sweat like a pig but it could have to do with test dosage and other things mixed.
 
My last run before getting hurt was a vial of mix.. Ended up doing 70mg a week for maybe 6-7 weeks and then up to 100mg 'til maybe week 10. I was bulking. The love handles, etc didn't melt away like I would have seen with a moderate dose but I still had minor league sleep disturbance and sweatiness..toward the end I stopped lifting cuz of injury and bumped tren up to 200 to stop catabolism and maintained weight.. Only those last couple weeks did I see the typical tren reduction in visceral fat.. Sides were the same..so I guess micro dose didn't do what I hoped it would at least during a bulk


Its possible it helps if you dont have many cycles behind you. I did 200 not to long ago and i had a recomp but i also used other things and was on a really strict diet and a ton of cardio. I got really lean but i think i could have done it without the tren.
 
It works but the difference with tren just from 200-400 is night and day and i can't see how under 200 would do much. The sides are also way worse for me. 400 and i sweat like a pig but it could have to do with test dosage and other things mixed.
I am keeping my test @ 125mg pw so that should eliminate some of the problems stemming from elevated e2 impacting prolactin. I do have caber on hand though.

I am really interested to see what tren does to my libido. It has not been so good lately.
 
I am keeping my test @ 125mg pw so that should eliminate some of the problems stemming from elevated e2 impacting prolactin. I do have caber on hand though.

I am really interested to see what tren does to my libido. It has not been so good lately.

Honestly I doubt you need anything else than maybe an ai. Could be worth keeping caber on hand but that's being really cautious. As far as libido i think tren is the bomb but some fall in to the opposite category which just like the tren cough i dont seem to get any negative effect.
 
I think the biggest problem will be hot weather lol. Right now i am in a small village by the sea and its heaven. Its terribly hot in the town i normally live in but here, well, its just beautiful. And its not like these 2 places are far apart. Its just that all that damn concrete simply soaks in the heat. It can be unbearable.
If i am not able to take the heat with tren at least i will have an excuse to come back here lol.
 
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