Answered How to lower cortisol

mikem456 said:
if im taking a hormone, might as well take a hormone that will increase testosterone, does the reduce xt have an effect on testerone or estrogen?
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no, but you need to understand that nearly all hormones have effects on others
 
mikem456 said:
if not what is a good one I can take that will put muscle on, and maybe help
me sleep
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messing with hormones will more than likely make things worse. you need to find the appropriate solution to the sleep issue directly before thowing random other hormones in the mix
 
booneman77 said:
no, but you need to understand that nearly all hormones have effects on others
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do you think some dmz plus msten would be good? (60mg*30mg) I am 28 1/2 years old, male 220lbs 6’3”. Been training for over 10 years, but never able to make any real progress, I think its all cuz I cant get good sleep. Ive only tried natty test boosters up to now, and tried regular dhea for about two weeks inconsistently and than stopped (a month ago). I stopped gambling so im looking to replace that with something, so the training will take my mind off of it, jus need to get some sleep to make progress and feel good.
 
booneman77 said:
messing with hormones will more than likely make things worse. you need to find the appropriate solution to the sleep issue directly before thowing random other hormones in the mix
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I have been searching for years, I have every natural supplement you can think of. Glycine, tmg, ash, relora, nettle leaf/root, chinese licorice, schishandra, turmeric, tart cherry, melatonin, magnesium malate, zinc gluc, citric and malic acid, diamtaceous earth, lecithin, chapparal, quercetin, pau d arco, bee pollen, ozone water, yucca root, water kefir, 5-htp, chamomile, tyrosine.

none of this has worked for sleep
 
What dose have you worked up to with melatonin and have you used time release?
Have you tried cbd oil in the 50mg + range?

How is your sleep when eating plenty of carbs and calories? I have sleep issues as well, and especially when keto. It’s not cortisol in my case that wakes me up at 2am, but high ketones. Last night I used 3mg timed release melatonin, 480mg magnesium glycinate, 400mg theanine (2 doses of 200mg) and 40-50mg CBD oil and although I woke up twice, my alarm woke me up at 5:15am which hasn’t happened in months. 10mg timed release melatonin also worked but had lethargy all day. Today I felt great so I will continue this protocol.

I also add extra glycine on top of the magnesium glycinate so I get a total of 10g glycine (half prebed and half in middle of night).
 
was so missrable, took a hut of weed and felt instantly better, that looks like a good formula you got there green machine, the time release melatonin i will definitely try. thanks
 
Why do you think an OTC supplement is going to fix a root issue?
You need to get bloodwork done, seek a professional, and get to the bottom of this.
The thousands you have probably spent in trying to find a "Supplement" to fix the issue is wasted time (In your case years), and a lot of blown money.

Put your money towards your health, fix it, and then live a happy life when you can diagnose the issue, sleep, and get the cortisol lowered.

I don't get why you are so inclined to think a pill or powder is magically going to fix your long term issue. You have tried, you have failed. Now you need to go find a professional to fix the issue.

Yes, not the answer you want to hear, but you are not going to get anywhere but continue in a downward spiral until you do so.
 
I lost confidence in doctors when I went to a doctor-endo, after getting a referral for her, qnd going to get a blood test, and going back. She seen my tests, extremely low vitamin d, high cortisol, high acth and tells me theres nothing she can prescribe me, and basically no advice at all, at that day i knew id have to find the solution myself
 
mikem456 said:
I lost confidence in doctors when I went to a doctor-endo, after getting a referral for her, qnd going to get a blood test, and going back. She seen my tests, extremely low vitamin d, high cortisol, high acth and tells me theres nothing she can prescribe me, and basically no advice at all, at that day i knew id have to find the solution myself
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Well, it is probably a good thing she didn't prescribe anything, it would of just masked symptoms of your issues.
 
mikem456 said:
I lost confidence in doctors when I went to a doctor-endo, after getting a referral for her, qnd going to get a blood test, and going back. She seen my tests, extremely low vitamin d, high cortisol, high acth and tells me theres nothing she can prescribe me, and basically no advice at all, at that day i knew id have to find the solution myself
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Seek a specialist, if you can't find one in town then drive to somewhere where you can get an answer.
Again you have probably spent thousands on OTC Supplements (read your post in which you listed off everything you took over the last few years), where has this lead you? Back to square one.

You can continue trying to take pills and powders and get the same answer... frustration
or seek someone who specializes in solving your medical issues for a living and get to the correct answer.
Don't be hardheaded and narrow-minded.. No OTC Supplement is a cure for an underlying issue. If you saw a bad doctor well it happens. Do your research and even if you have to drive a few hours to find someone who is worth your month it will solve you a lot of sleepless nights.
 
Yeah bob is right in that you need to find a diff doctor. Hormones are something that unfortunately even endo specialists seem to only have a small grasp on (most at least) - one other thought might be to have a sleep study done... could reveal some things about your habits that make it harder.
 
The Solution said:
Why do you think an OTC supplement is going to fix a root issue?
You need to get bloodwork done, seek a professional, and get to the bottom of this.
The thousands you have probably spent in trying to find a "Supplement" to fix the issue is wasted time (In your case years), and a lot of blown money.

Put your money towards your health, fix it, and then live a happy life when you can diagnose the issue, sleep, and get the cortisol lowered.

I don't get why you are so inclined to think a pill or powder is magically going to fix your long term issue. You have tried, you have failed. Now you need to go o find a professional to fix the issue.

Yes, not the answer you want to hear, but you are not going to get anywhere but continue in a downward spiral until you do so.
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I went to the doctor, and they gave me a sleep test headband machine to take home for the night. Going to bring It back today. Which type of bloodwork should I request to be tested?
 
mikem456 said:
I went to the doctor, and they gave me a sleep test headband machine to take home for the night. Going to bring It back today. Which type of bloodwork should I request to be tested?
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You can get your cortisol levels tested
A1C
Fasted Insulin

those would also be good to see where they are.
 
I had my cortisol tested recently. It is on the higher end, but the night before I had lots of food, including junk food so my glycogen stores should have been very high, meaning my Cortisol should have been lower than usual? I ate late at 3am, and had the test around 11am
CORTISOL - AM 17.9 6.2-19.4 ug/dL Final 01
RESULT NOTE FASTING YES
 
The Solution said:
You can get your cortisol levels tested
A1C
Fasted Insulin

those would also be good to see where they are.
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and heres my ACTH
ReportResultRef. RangeUnitsStatusLab

ACTH, PLASMA		 42.9 7.2-63.3 pg/mL Final 01
ACTH reference interval for samples collected between 7 and 10 AM.

RESULT NOTE FASTING YES
 
ReportResultRef. RangeUnitsStatusLab
TESTOSTERONE, SERUM 561 264-916 ng/dL Final 01

FREE TESTOSTERONE(DIRECT) 15.1 9.3-26.5 pg/mL Final 01
RESULT NOTE FASTING YES
 
Also I posted a picture of my chest in the health forum, and lots of members confirmed I had Gyno. Could the high estrogen be causing the insomnia. Slept 4 hours last night, hoping this sleep test reveals something
 
mikem456 said:
You mean get them retested? I posted the results above from February
CORTISOL - AM17.96.2-19.4ug/dLFinal01
RESULT NOTEFASTING YES
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Exactly....They are on the very high end.
Get A1C and Fasted Inuslin tested. This will help see if there any underlying issues with Hemoglobin or if your fasted insulin/BG Runs high naturally.
 
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