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IDK... i always thought i was gyno prone, and I honestly dont have much problem with trest combined with anastrozol
i run up to a 1mg per day.
 
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IDK... i always thought i was gyno prone, and I honestly dont have much problem with trest combined with anastrozol
i run up to a 1mg per day.
Lucky.
I’m just trying to get over 250/week on Ace for the next few weeks before I switch over to NPP for 3 months, and I am struggling to do even that. Already bumped Letro up over 1mg and Ralox increased to 65mg.
 
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My first impressions of trest ace are great.
I'm 8 days in at 25 mg per day and I'm up 7 pounds already. Weights are going up in the gym, and I feel like I can definitely workout longer.

12.5 mg eod aromasin seems to be keeping estrogen under control for now
 
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My first impressions of trest ace are great.
I'm 8 days in at 25 mg per day and I'm up 7 pounds already. Weights are going up in the gym, and I feel like I can definitely workout longer.

12.5 mg eod aromasin seems to be keeping estrogen under control for now
It does impressive stuff at that dose. I can cruise at 150/week for months. Estro is still somewhat manageable and the gains are great. Like a drier Dbol with the opposite of lethargy.
 
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It does impressive stuff at that dose. I can cruise at 150/week for months. Estro is still somewhat manageable and the gains are great. Like a drier Dbol with the opposite of lethargy.
I’ve been running TD ace at 30mg a day and I can just keep going in the gym. The strength gains are unreal as well very fast acting I’ve only been on it a week.
 
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I’ve been running TD ace at 30mg a day and I can just keep going in the gym. The strength gains are unreal as well very fast acting I’ve only been on it a week.
Yup. Everyone refers to it as a super charged test. Libido, energy, stamina, and tenacity all around. I always come back to it when another drug doesn’t measure up.
 
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Totally understand that. There’s something therapeutic about cheering on guys you feel like you know or just maybe listening to someone that’s struggling. And of course learning. I feel like a moron compared to some of the brilliant guys here, although I have a lot of experience, it teaches me I don’t know very much and it’s humbling. But above all, trying to help others reach their goals and being held accountable for my own goals. I genuinely get more than I could ever give coming on here.
Yup totally agree, I like to see people succeed especially people I've talked to for a long time here. My own motivation going to the gym is so so. I actually don't enjoy working out that much, I like seeing results and feeling pumped but anything else that comes with it is mostly a struggle haha. It was fun at 15.

I do wrestling still and compared to when I was a kid and everything was about winning and being the best at practise I now look at it as an education to understand all the grappling even better.

you know first off I don't know why the text got thicker but it happened before too. I haven't noticed any estrogen really with an ai but I did wake up sweating and in not sure wether it was the heat or the trest and deca.
 
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Night sweats for me are intense on trest. Like the sheets are literally soaked in the AM.
 

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Yup totally agree, I like to see people succeed especially people I've talked to for a long time here. My own motivation going to the gym is so so. I actually don't enjoy working out that much, I like seeing results and feeling pumped but anything else that comes with it is mostly a struggle haha. It was fun at 15.
Yeah I always chuckle inside when I check in at the gym and they say “enjoy your workout.” I’m like... wtf enjoy? Ain’t nothing enjoyable about it.
 
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Yeah I always chuckle inside when I check in at the gym and they say “enjoy your workout.” I’m like... wtf enjoy? Ain’t nothing enjoyable about it.

Haha right? If I could keep the same shape by playing soccer I would. Or any sport for that matter.

I am not a fan of running either but when doing sports I love it, it just doesn't give you the same body.

Wrestling is a bit of both but it's not the same as the gym.

Could you ever imagine going to the gym to lift without getting results? Thats like enjoying moving furniture's.
 
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Night sweats for me are intense on trest. Like the sheets are literally soaked in the AM.

Obviously there's a difference between injectible and oral but at what week did it start?

In Sweden we use elements to heat up and may is normally spring but temperatures are crazy and with the heat on in the house in leaning towards that rather than the trest. I have to go up to 400 with tren to get it.

I think you have elements in the US but you use mostly gas and it's a HUGE country so people in Florida normally has no idea how people in Michigan lives during the winters. Us is literally as populated as Europe so no wonder going to a different state is like another country
 
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Obviously there's a difference between injectible and oral but at what week did it start?

In Sweden we use elements to heat up and may is normally spring but temperatures are crazy and with the heat on in the house in leaning towards that rather than the trest. I have to go up to 400 with tren to get it.

I think you have elements in the US but you use mostly gas and it's a HUGE country so people in Florida normally has no idea how people in Michigan lives during the winters. Us is literally as populated as Europe so no wonder going to a different state is like another country
I wanna day it took a few weeks on oral/ transdermal to get the sweats but honestly I don’t remember very clearly
 
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I wanna day it took a few weeks on oral/ transdermal to get the sweats but honestly I don’t remember very clearly

Not sure what week I'm at but 5? Maybe.. One thing I can say is that the worst side I've ever had besides mental issues on tren is nightsweats, I absolutely hate it.
 
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Not sure what week I'm at but 5? Maybe.. One thing I can say is that the worst side I've ever had besides mental issues on tren is nightsweats, I absolutely hate it.
Night sweats for me are intense on trest. Like the sheets are literally soaked in the AM.
Mine is consistent but I also get some sweatiness from daily Kratom use so I didn’t really attribute it all to Trest. UNTIL I cycle off it or get on something else. No sweats then.
Mine are all pillow. It’s fugging disgusting, smells like sweat, I have to put the pillow down on the side of the bed to dry for the entire day and I spray it with some organic lavender smell good stuff. My gf knows that’s the universal sign of Don’t touch the pillow, Matt’s on Trest and sweaty af.
 
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Mine is consistent but I also get some sweatiness from daily Kratom use so I didn’t really attribute it all to Trest. UNTIL I cycle off it or get on something else. No sweats then.
Mine are all pillow. It’s fugging disgusting, smells like sweat, I have to put the pillow down on the side of the bed to dry for the entire day and I spray it with some organic lavender smell good stuff. My gf knows that’s the universal sign of Don’t touch the pillow, Matt’s on Trest and sweaty af.

Haha! I get it on the back, stomach etc, I wake up cold because I sweat so much. Hopefully this was just the hot weather mixed with me not turning the heat off
 
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Yup totally agree, I like to see people succeed especially people I've talked to for a long time here. My own motivation going to the gym is so so. I actually don't enjoy working out that much, I like seeing results and feeling pumped but anything else that comes with it is mostly a struggle haha. It was fun at 15.
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Well without the pump and the results, hell no. But because of those two, the process is what I love. I hate skipping workouts, I think about it all day, getting more and more weight, pushing pain further; the sounds the smells, I love it all. But I think the only reason I do love it, is that that’s where the results originate.
 
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Well without the pump and the results, hell no. But because of those two, the process is what I love. I hate skipping workouts, I think about it all day, getting more and more weight, pushing pain further; the sounds the smells, I love it all. But I think the only reason I do love it, is that that’s where the results originate.

Maybe, if not I'm jealous of you. Today is Saturday and I'm gonna go out from my schedule and kinda eat whatever I want. Something I do like is the strict discipline I have with the food. It makes the good stuff so much more valuable.
 
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Maybe, if not I'm jealous of you. Today is Saturday and I'm gonna go out from my schedule and kinda eat whatever I want. Something I do like is the strict discipline I have with the food. It makes the good stuff so much more valuable.
People don’t understand this.
I call it deprivation therapy.
All people know is indulgence all day long every day. This is no way to live. Everything loses value. The only way to really experience and appreciate everything in life, is to take it away for periods of time.
My life does not thrive without deprivation and discipline. Bodybuilding translates to every area of my life, when I don’t train and diet, my life does not move quickly in the direction I want it to.

Take away hot showers and sleep on the ground for a month. Try it.
When you have a shower that isn’t freezing cold and sleep in a comfortable bed, you will know what real appreciation is that day. If you can master this with all areas of your life, it’s incredible.
 
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Obviously there's a difference between injectible and oral but at what week did it start?

In Sweden we use elements to heat up and may is normally spring but temperatures are crazy and with the heat on in the house in leaning towards that rather than the trest. I have to go up to 400 with tren to get it.

I think you have elements in the US but you use mostly gas and it's a HUGE country so people in Florida normally has no idea how people in Michigan lives during the winters. Us is literally as populated as Europe so no wonder going to a different state is like another country
Most houses have an electric furnace these days. Some apartments have gas furnace some have a heat register in each room, electric or steam radiated from a boiler, which is gas.

There is no order to it, just do whatever hahaha.
 
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My grandma grew up in a dirt house. Really.
 

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People don’t understand this.
I call it deprivation therapy.
All people know is indulgence all day long every day. This is no way to live. Everything loses value. The only way to really experience and appreciate everything in life, is to take it away for periods of time.
My life does not thrive without deprivation and discipline. Bodybuilding translates to every area of my life, when I don’t train and diet, my life does not move quickly in the direction I want it to.

Take away hot showers and sleep on the ground for a month. Try it.
When you have a shower that isn’t freezing cold and sleep in a comfortable bed, you will know what real appreciation is that day. If you can master this with all areas of your life, it’s incredible.
YES! i agree 100%.
 

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It takes work but I swear by it...
I know it’s cliche, but the military at 23, helped me learn it so well.
I’m not really a fan of mandatory anything in society but I think a lot of good could come of everyone having to serve two years.
 
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I’m not really a fan of mandatory anything in society but I think a lot of good could come of everyone having to serve two years.
I’ve literally said this so many times. The benefit in work ethic, respect and discipline would enrich our society in ways we can’t even imagine. I can imagine whipping these entitled, lazy, disrespectful millennials into shape. It would be glorious.
 
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Not sure about having to serve but there should be a bit more of a training-in happening at school. We just throw kids in a room, shove papers in front of them, and scare them into going through the motions. I suppose it’s computers now, but still... there should be more actual preparation for real life happening, auto shop is an elective. Why? Why not mandatory? Why isn’t weightlifting mandatory? Why not self defense? Home economics?

Oh but you’ll definitely need English lit 1, 2, AP, AP2...
 
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Remember how manners were something that were taught? Now that’s almost entirely absent from school.
 
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I like the idea of 2 years mandatory service.
 
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Most houses have an electric furnace these days. Some apartments have gas furnace some have a heat register in each room, electric or steam radiated from a boiler, which is gas.

There is no order to it, just do whatever hahaha.

Haha yeah it's so different, in Sweden most use either electricity (expensive) or water heating which is the best thing ever and most common.
 
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People don’t understand this.
I call it deprivation therapy.
All people know is indulgence all day long every day. This is no way to live. Everything loses value. The only way to really experience and appreciate everything in life, is to take it away for periods of time.
My life does not thrive without deprivation and discipline. Bodybuilding translates to every area of my life, when I don’t train and diet, my life does not move quickly in the direction I want it to.

Take away hot showers and sleep on the ground for a month. Try it.
When you have a shower that isn’t freezing cold and sleep in a comfortable bed, you will know what real appreciation is that day. If you can master this with all areas of your life, it’s incredible.

That's a very cool way of looking at it and I can relate to it. I've lived periods of time with very little when traveling and I didn't have hit water for a month during the winter. It's really important not to take things for granted and its probably the reason depression is so high in the most developers countries.
 
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Yeah man. She cut me fucking deep. We just bought a house a month ago too. I am just relieved I found out about it. All I keep thinking about is how I’m gonna **** this dude up. But honestly.... it’s not even worth going to jail over. Because it’s gonna end up being murder or attempted murder.


She started working as a bartender about 6 months ago. And I told her exactly this would happen. I mean, she works till 3am, with all kinds of dudes giving her attention and running game on her. And she is allowed to get drunk at work.
So, long story short...yeah.... this sort of thing is bound to happen eventually even to someone who, in the past, has been faithful.
But yeah, I figured something was going on because of how late she would get home.
So I called her out and said I was gonna leave her if she didn’t spill the beans, and she did. She admitted to fucking some guy at the casino.
Even though I told her we would work it out I was 95% still gonna leave.
So the same night she confessed, her and her brother got in a big argument and she kicked him out.
And on his way out he was like, yeah that’s why you fucked slade you whore. Which is a totally different guy, that I actually know. And she tried to lie and cover it up but come to find out there was an eye witness!!!!! She was outside her house smoking a cig at 3am, when she saw my wife’s car pull up, saw her take off her clothes and start riding slade (the girls brother, who is friends with my wife’s brother) in the front seat of the fucking Lexus I just bought her hoe ass.

So right then and there I told her she can go to hell and have been staying in a hotel ever since. On May 3rd I move into a badass apartment at LSU right in the middle of all the nightlife. Payback is going to be fucking sweet I promise you that.
No the dudes fault at all. Buy him a drink he did u a favor.
 
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What is the turnaround time like for PRO? I move from the hotel to my apartment on the 3rd of May and want to make sure it goes to the right place...
I got my ralox from pro in 4 days. Works good but on this ment im 75mg a day.
 
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That's a very cool way of looking at it and I can relate to it. I've lived periods of time with very little when traveling and I didn't have hit water for a month during the winter. It's really important not to take things for granted and its probably the reason depression is so high in the most developers countries.
I think it’s because when you have nothing to struggle or fight for, complacency and apathy set in. There’s less sense of purpose trying to just maintain your level of indulgence. I think that’s where real goals come in. Being grateful for what you have but striving for more. Gym goals, life goals that you plug away at every day, some depression, you’d be too busy for.
 
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I think it’s because when you have nothing to struggle or fight for, complacency and apathy set in. There’s less sense of purpose trying to just maintain your level of indulgence. I think that’s where real goals come in. Being grateful for what you have but striving for more. Gym goals, life goals that you plug away at every day, some depression, you’d be too busy for.

Absolutely, the more we have the less goals we have to reach I guess and we have to find more goals. Its hard for people to understand sometimes but goals is what keeps us going in life and often keeps us from depression
 
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Well I disagree....I notice that women are unhappy with their marriages a lot of the times. They give off signals. A big one is when they complain about their husbands. A good wife wont even open the door....unless he raped her, She's a whore...
 
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Well I disagree....I notice that women are unhappy with their marriages a lot of the times. They give off signals. A big one is when they complain about their husbands. A good wife wont even open the door....unless he raped her, She's a whore...

I'm not saying she isn't the one to blame but I disagree with the logic that I as a man can take someone else's women and then complain when someone takes mine. I'd never touch anyone's wife and I expect others to do the same to me which I know can be far fetched but at least Ill know I'm on the good side.

The girl is definitely the one that should take the most blame but if I knew the guy knew about me I'd still would want to slap the guy. Now if I know myself I wouldn't use violence but that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to. Luckily I've never been cheated on as far as I know and I can say that confidently.
 
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Well u may have a good one. But don't let your guard down.

I know what you mean but I also think people are drawn to different people. Mostly I think people who can cheat are drawn to people that will cheat and it becomes a roller coaster of accusations back and forth. I always been with people who are very attached to me and that never done suspicious things such as not telling me where they're at, not answering the phone for a longer time, hanging with people they don't know.

Not saying this is 100% true all the time though. The people I've been with has played with very open cards, they go to work, comes home in time, always answers the phone and spends most of their time with me. I've never had any doubts and neither have they. Both my ex and my fiance are also very educated and they really don't have the time to go to bars and if they do its with me, my sister or our common friends.


Its just impossible for me to imagine but I get you 100% cause you are not me and if you told me the same thing I'd be thinking, I don't know this guy's girl and I wouldn't be surprised if what he's saying is wrong.
 
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That lifestyle you’re speaking of Chados, is a big part of it the problem. Bars are bad news for someone in a committed relationship although that’s no excuse.
I haven’t had this problem but I mainly have been with women too busy to cheat. Workaholics that have a few kids, go to the gym and are also finishing a degree or working on a big promotion. When would either of us find the time?? And sometimes a woman that appreciates me enough to not cheat, BUT I don’t stick around for 10+ years either. It takes real work at that point. Either way, it’s such a shitty thing to do and I feel for RB. Just the thought of mine doing that makes me want to puke.
I hope he’s drowning in ass right now and forgets about her by the end of next month.
 
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I know what you mean but I also think people are drawn to different people. Mostly I think people who can cheat are drawn to people that will cheat and it becomes a roller coaster of accusations back and forth. I always been with people who are very attached to me and that never done suspicious things such as not telling me where they're at, not answering the phone for a longer time, hanging with people they don't know.

Not saying this is 100% true all the time though. The people I've been with has played with very open cards, they go to work, comes home in time, always answers the phone and spends most of their time with me. I've never had any doubts and neither have they. Both my ex and my fiance are also very educated and they really don't have the time to go to bars and if they do its with me, my sister or our common friends.


Its just impossible for me to imagine but I get you 100% cause you are not me and if you told me the same thing I'd be thinking, I don't know this guy's girl and I wouldn't be surprised if what he's saying is wrong.
There's definitely some chemistry involved. There's a few girls that I work with that we have a healthy flirtation. We definitely are attracted to each other we get excited when we see each other and generally enjoy being in each other's company but it never goes past that. So if the right environment presented itself, privacy maybe some alcohol things can get out of hand. I think a lot of times guys full themselves. None of us want to thino that it will happen to us.
So monogamy itself it's kind of a bizarre thing. Are we even wired for a monogamous relationship? Or as men are we naturally drawn to many mates? I work at a college so I'm around under 25 year old girls all day long. I wouldn't trade any of them for my significant other. But that doesn't stop me being from being a man. Maybe I'm just in a weird spot I am going from Tren to trestolone so my libido is Raging plus this one test cypionate have my confidence at a ridiculously high level. Half the s*** I'm saying I probably won't even back up when I'm down to 150 mg of test in a Lil Bit of proviron but right now I believe all girls are whores and all they want is to get dicked down.
It's 80 degrees in Sacramento boys and they're not even wearing bras anymore it's off the hook
 
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I feel bad for RB also but I'm not surprised.... good girls are hard to find
 
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That lifestyle you’re speaking of Chados, is a big part of it the problem. Bars are bad news for someone in a committed relationship although that’s no excuse.
I haven’t had this problem but I mainly have been with women too busy to cheat. Workaholics that have a few kids, go to the gym and are also finishing a degree or working on a big promotion. When would either of us find the time?? And sometimes a woman that appreciates me enough to not cheat, BUT I don’t stick around for 10+ years either. It takes real work at that point. Either way, it’s such a shitty thing to do and I feel for RB. Just the thought of mine doing that makes me want to puke.
I hope he’s drowning in ass right now and forgets about her by the end of next month.

A lot of things plays a part, have they been cheated on before? Did they have a good childhood? Did their parents stay committed? Do they suffer from things such as bipolar or borderline disorder? Are they addicted to drugs? There could be a thousand reasons why one person does it and the other won't and I think people who ate committed and secure in themselves will have a better chance whilst a person that's lazy and won't be a man/father figure will have it harder (generally speaking) I almost forgot age, a women that's 18 vs a women that's 40 is just two different people.

What you talked about earlier with goals I think is really important as women often wants a man with goals in his life and not a person that's stuck with his decisions.
 
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There's definitely some chemistry involved. There's a few girls that I work with that we have a healthy flirtation. We definitely are attracted to each other we get excited when we see each other and generally enjoy being in each other's company but it never goes past that. So if the right environment presented itself, privacy maybe some alcohol things can get out of hand. I think a lot of times guys full themselves. None of us want to thino that it will happen to us.
So monogamy itself it's kind of a bizarre thing. Are we even wired for a monogamous relationship? Or as men are we naturally drawn to many mates? I work at a college so I'm around under 25 year old girls all day long. I wouldn't trade any of them for my significant other. But that doesn't stop me being from being a man. Maybe I'm just in a weird spot I am going from Tren to trestolone so my libido is Raging plus this one test cypionate have my confidence at a ridiculously high level. Half the s*** I'm saying I probably won't even back up when I'm down to 150 mg of test in a Lil Bit of proviron but right now I believe all girls are whores and all they want is to get dicked down.
It's 80 degrees in Sacramento boys and they're not even wearing bras anymore it's off the hook

Absolutely there's attraction especially with alcohol or steroids and that is something normal and not something we should worry about. My fiance and I don't walk around saying (this girl or this guy is good looking) but if she asks me, do you think Penelope Cruz is good looking I say yeah and that's it. Unfortunately some people gets extremely jealous even by people we'll never meet let alone date and that's insecurity, insecurity creates jealousy and jealousy is what push people to accuse the other person and that person ends up cheating.

If you walk around being angry at the other person and accuse them of cheating chances are they will because what you do is to show them you have no trust in them at all. Trust isn't just about actually being faithful but also about showing you can trust the other person alone.

If you do innocent flirting I get it it's fun but I truly believe you're building up an attraction beyond what you would if you wouldn't flirt which for some people could mean they go a little further every time.

Not saying this is you, or that you'd go further but I think that's what happens very often.

On a positive note I think we all learn very important lessons every time a relationship breaks and instead of being insecure about our next relationship and assume they could also cheat we should instead give that person a chance.
 

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