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Unanswered TRT and other steroids

DK0313

DK0313

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Just started Trt at 120 mgs every ten days. Was wondering if I could run other steroids with it preferably tren, maybe winstrol. And if it would effect my bloods at the checkup with my endo? Also what dosage to run the tren at with my trt dose?
 
Yeah you can run other aas with TRT, and it will effect your bloodwork, for how long I would think it depends on which compound you run.
 
DK0313 said:
Just started Trt at 120 mgs every ten days. Was wondering if I could run other steroids with it preferably tren, maybe winstrol. And if it would effect my bloods at the checkup with my endo? Also what dosage to run the tren at with my trt dose?
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100mg per week of any of the two is a good start with your trt. You can increase or lower your dosages as needed.
 
As somebody that’s been on TRT for almost 3 years, here are a few pointers that are my opinion.

First wait a while before you start throwing any other AAS into the mix. It is going to take your Doc a while to get your dosage dialed in and and estrogen under control if it’s an issue. Don’t know your docs protocol but typically you get bloods after the first 6 weeks, then again in 3 months. Then again in another 3 months then 6 months assuming everything is dialed in.

2nd, beg your doctor to give you a shot every 6 or 7 days. Waiting 10 is going to have your levels more like a roller coaster. This can happen even with once a week shots but definitely with every 10 days. Once a week keeps the blood levels a lot more stable and you will feel better.

3rd, 120mg every 10 days isn’t a whole lot of test. Everybody responds differently but don’t be surprised if that dose is increased. Make sure this Endo isn’t like some and just wants to get you back into the normal range that labcorp says it should be. If your going to take exogenous testosterone you want the doc to put you at the higher end of the normal range.

And lastly as far as other compounds, all of them are on the table. Trt doesn’t change what you can run a cycle of, it just means you don’t have to worry about a pct to restart your test production. And the dosages of other compounds are going to depend on your goals for taking said compound. But I wouldnt touch tren until you have really researched it and made sure you wanna take that leap.

I would spend this time of when the doc is dialing in your dosage to be researching and planning what you want to run.
 
Codybenz said:
As somebody that’s been on TRT for almost 3 years, here are a few pointers that are my opinion.

First wait a while before you start throwing any other AAS into the mix. It is going to take your Doc a while to get your dosage dialed in and and estrogen under control if it’s an issue. Don’t know your docs protocol but typically you get bloods after the first 6 weeks, then again in 3 months. Then again in another 3 months then 6 months assuming everything is dialed in.

2nd, beg your doctor to give you a shot every 6 or 7 days. Waiting 10 is going to have your levels more like a roller coaster. This can happen even with once a week shots but definitely with every 10 days. Once a week keeps the blood levels a lot more stable and you will feel better.

3rd, 120mg every 10 days isn’t a whole lot of test. Everybody responds differently but don’t be surprised if that dose is increased. Make sure this Endo isn’t like some and just wants to get you back into the normal range that labcorp says it should be. If your going to take exogenous testosterone you want the doc to put you at the higher end of the normal range.

And lastly as far as other compounds, all of them are on the table. Trt doesn’t change what you can run a cycle of, it just means you don’t have to worry about a pct to restart your test production. And the dosages of other compounds are going to depend on your goals for taking said compound. But I wouldnt touch tren until you have really researched it and made sure you wanna take that leap.

I would spend this time of when the doc is dialing in your dosage to be researching and planning what you want to run.
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Good stuff here. Probably the most critical is let him dial you in before you do any blasts. He’s trying to find a baseline and if anything throws it off, you’ll be the unlucky bastard on 70mg/week
 
Codybenz said:
As somebody that’s been on TRT for almost 3 years, here are a few pointers that are my opinion.

First wait a while before you start throwing any other AAS into the mix. It is going to take your Doc a while to get your dosage dialed in and and estrogen under control if it’s an issue. Don’t know your docs protocol but typically you get bloods after the first 6 weeks, then again in 3 months. Then again in another 3 months then 6 months assuming everything is dialed in.

2nd, beg your doctor to give you a shot every 6 or 7 days. Waiting 10 is going to have your levels more like a roller coaster. This can happen even with once a week shots but definitely with every 10 days. Once a week keeps the blood levels a lot more stable and you will feel better.

3rd, 120mg every 10 days isn’t a whole lot of test. Everybody responds differently but don’t be surprised if that dose is increased. Make sure this Endo isn’t like some and just wants to get you back into the normal range that labcorp says it should be. If your going to take exogenous testosterone you want the doc to put you at the higher end of the normal range.

And lastly as far as other compounds, all of them are on the table. Trt doesn’t change what you can run a cycle of, it just means you don’t have to worry about a pct to restart your test production. And the dosages of other compounds are going to depend on your goals for taking said compound. But I wouldnt touch tren until you have really researched it and made sure you wanna take that leap.

I would spend this time of when the doc is dialing in your dosage to be researching and planning what you want to run.
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Thanks for the very detailed description, it's much appreciated and exactly what I'm looking for. I've, been taking 1-andro and ostarine and cardarine already I'll probably stop the 1-andro in 2 weeks to make sure it isn't effecting my bloods. And I agree that, trt dose seems quite low. He even said you're a pretty big guy so I'll give you this. As if it was on the higher end... But I've read about people on up to 200 mgs a week so that's kind of pitiful. He also only gave me two 1 mg vials dosed at 200mgs/ml. So I'm assuming he'll do my bloods in a month from my first dose, or I'll have to ask for them, to see where I'm at, as that's all the test I'll have enough for. I'm really hoping he does up my dosage instead of keeping me around the middle area around 600nl or something. How would I go about proposing the idea of injecting once a week?
 
Matthersby said:
Good stuff here. Probably the most critical is let him dial you in before you do any blasts. He’s trying to find a baseline and if anything throws it off, you’ll be the unlucky bastard on 70mg/week
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Should I cut out the ostarine and cardarine as well as the 1-andro just to make sure I don't mess up my blood work and get screwed? I'm not too sure about how they'll effect my bloods since there supposed to have minimal effect on your hormones to begin with. Disregarding the 1-anddo that is, and as far as I can find with research that will only effect my levels at over 300 mgs a day and I've been taking 220, but it's certainly not work the risk if there is even a slight chance it'll elevated my test levels on my bloods
 
To fight for weekly or twice weekly injections, tell him you lose your libido and get depressed after about four days from injection.

Chances are this won’t be a lie anyhow.

I’ve seen a lot of deception used to get doses raised. Taking less than they prescribe until they prescribe a high dose, then just taking a normal trt amount and saving the extra for blasts.... lots of stuff guys do.

Don’t lie to your doctor*

*disclaimer statement
 
Cardarine will make your lipids and blood pressure look better than they would without.
 
Codybenz said:
As somebody that’s been on TRT for almost 3 years, here are a few pointers that are my opinion.

First wait a while before you start throwing any other AAS into the mix. It is going to take your Doc a while to get your dosage dialed in and and estrogen under control if it’s an issue. Don’t know your docs protocol but typically you get bloods after the first 6 weeks, then again in 3 months. Then again in another 3 months then 6 months assuming everything is dialed in.

2nd, beg your doctor to give you a shot every 6 or 7 days. Waiting 10 is going to have your levels more like a roller coaster. This can happen even with once a week shots but definitely with every 10 days. Once a week keeps the blood levels a lot more stable and you will feel better.

3rd, 120mg every 10 days isn’t a whole lot of test. Everybody responds differently but don’t be surprised if that dose is increased. Make sure this Endo isn’t like some and just wants to get you back into the normal range that labcorp says it should be. If your going to take exogenous testosterone you want the doc to put you at the higher end of the normal range.

And lastly as far as other compounds, all of them are on the table. Trt doesn’t change what you can run a cycle of, it just means you don’t have to worry about a pct to restart your test production. And the dosages of other compounds are going to depend on your goals for taking said compound. But I wouldnt touch tren until you have really researched it and made sure you wanna take that leap.

I would spend this time of when the doc is dialing in your dosage to be researching and planning what you want to run.
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Good info.
 
I’m in the same boat. Started trt last week at 200mg every other week. I’m doing her protocol till bloodwork than say I think I’m gonna need to dose it every week. I do my next shot on Friday and already starting to feel like I have less energy than last week.

I’m doing 20mg daily of var for 30days then off of var for 3 weeks before I do next bloods. It’s a low dose so I don’t think it will mess with the bloods much.
 
20mg for 30 days? Have you run that low of a dose in the past? Always heard that anything under 50mg is pretty useless, but if it’s working for you more power to ya!
 
Old Witch said:
To fight for weekly or twice weekly injections, tell him you lose your libido and get depressed after about four days from injection.

Chances are this won’t be a lie anyhow.

I’ve seen a lot of deception used to get doses raised. Taking less than they prescribe until they prescribe a high dose, then just taking a normal trt amount and saving the extra for blasts.... lots of stuff guys do.

Don’t lie to your doctor*

*disclaimer statement
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Yep this.

This is going to be the best way to get on a weekly shot. And as Witch stated it won’t be lying because chances are this is exactly what will happen. You will start feeling good after your shot and then after about a week it goes away. Makes it harder to dial in estrogen too if you start having issues with that because your blood levels are so unstable.
 
Kratom267 said:
20mg for 30 days? Have you run that low of a dose in the past? Always heard that anything under 50mg is pretty useless, but if it’s working for you more power to ya!
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If you have legit pharma var 40mg is pretty strong. Any1 who disagrees has most likely never had good var. The ugl stuff needs to be double dosed most of the time
 
Kratom267 said:
20mg for 30 days? Have you run that low of a dose in the past? Always heard that anything under 50mg is pretty useless, but if it’s working for you more power to ya!
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Gives me a nice mild strength boost and leaning out effect. So many people run such high doses of stuff at times (I’m guilty of this too )
But also it’s the quality of var that you have makes a big difference. Mexican anavar is amazing at 5mg a day but it’s also $150 for 50 2.5mg tabs ( what I have heard from some old school bodybuilders )
 
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