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gymtalk said:
I'm thinking of stacking 2 test boosters , animal stak and brawn nutrition complete test. they share some similar ingredients, stinging nettle root and fenugreek. Not sure how beneficial it is to double up on those , also They both have Aromatase inhibiting properties which are different but again doubling up on an AI. Any thoughts?
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I would advise against it. If you double up on AI you will wreck your joints. Your brain also needs small amounts of estrogen for protection. Be careful with your brain, it is my second most favorite organ. The up side is diminishing returns at more cost. If you want to pimp out your test booster, then add some bulk Maca, Fenugreek, maybe even some Fadogia. Mix some of these into your shakes. Think about adding 3 grams per day of Taurine for the run, this works! Forget about DAA, this turned out to be a bust.

Good luck and happy lifting
 
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GHopkins said:
I would advise against it. If you double up on AI you will wreck your joints. Your brain also needs small amounts of estrogen for protection. Be careful with your brain, it is my second most favorite organ. The up side is diminishing returns at more cost. If you want to pimp out your test booster, then add some bulk Maca, Fenugreek, maybe even some Fadogia. Mix some of these into your shakes. Think about adding 3 grams per day of Taurine for the run, this works! Forget about DAA, this turned out to be a bust.

Good luck and happy lifting
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fadogia!!!
 
The original Sparta Nutrition Trojan PCT is the most potent test booster I have ever used. Products with similar profiles just can’t compare to this for some reason. I was definitely porn star status and loved it!
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Beau said:
TheBigT - do you have a specific fadogia extract that you recommend?
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the barlows isn't bad for a single ingredient, but not as good as m-test or sup3r pct, of course they are in a formula so you would expect them to do more.

if we could convince CEL or OL to sell fadogia as a single ingredient that would be the route I would take.

if given the choice of a product containing LJ100 versus a product containing FADOGIA, I would pick FADOGIA.
 
Thanks - I have M-Test - and there are several companies (including Barlows) that sell fadogia or fadogia extracts in caps on Jeff Bezos' company website.
 
I’ll say it again Mtest has worked best for myself and many others. Best bang for your buck BIG TIME compared to some others
 
Ricky10 said:
The original Sparta Nutrition Trojan PCT is the most potent test booster I have ever used. Products with similar profiles just can’t compare to this for some reason. I was definitely porn star status and loved it!
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This looks interesting. I kinda think it's missing Nettle tho.

I feel like I can never find the combination I'm looking for in a test booster. I'll like a product ingredient profile and then have to scrap it because something like Mucana is included, just as an example.
 
celc5 said:
This looks interesting. I kinda think it's missing Nettle tho.

I feel like I can never find the combination I'm looking for in a test booster. I'll like a product ingredient profile and then have to scrap it because something like Mucana is included, just as an example.
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Yeah, formulas with adequate doses and quality extracts are a rarity as well.

On the other hand, I am a big fan of mucuna, but I don’t like anything with nettle extracts...especially in high doses. Haha!
 
Anyone know where I can source Sparta Nutrition Trojan PCT, after thorough research I am going with this option and considering having search to purchase this product is out of stock pretty much everywhere!

Quick one tho guys am i better off buying a bulk buy or if i was to stop would this make an impact on me
 
dellboy27 said:
Anyone know where I can source Sparta Nutrition Trojan PCT, after thorough research I am going with this option and considering having search to purchase this product is out of stock pretty much everywhere!

Quick one tho guys am i better off buying a bulk buy or if i was to stop would this make an impact on me
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Ricky10 said:
Yeah, formulas with adequate doses and quality extracts are a rarity as well.

On the other hand, I am a big fan of mucuna, but I don’t like anything with nettle extracts...especially in high doses. Haha!
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Fair points. I do like Mucana in sleep aids. But it makes me tired in test boosters if I'm dosing throughout the day.

Do you have GI issues with Nettle?
 
celc5 said:
Do you have GI issues with Nettle?
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No, not at all. I start off well with products that contain nettle for a week or two, but then end up with a blunted libido and ease of erection. I personally find the research on it to be less than impressive as well..

I do fine with 500mg/day or so of Divanyl, but greater than 1gm just doesn’t sit right with me. I would rather do without though altogether.
 
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Ricky10 said:
No, not at all. I start off well with products that contain nettle for a week or two, but then end up with a blunted libido and ease of erection. I personally find the research on it to be less than impressive as well..

I do fine with 500mg/day or so of Divanyl, but greater than 1gm just doesn’t sit right with me. I would rather do without though altogether.
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Have you ever run forskolin/forslean? Subjectively, I'm a big fan.

I'm not as sharp with HPTA pathways as I used to be. But I think the test increase symptoms are there for me. I feel stable mood, leaning affect, mild increased libido, maybe a touch fuller muscles.
 
how not anybody going and getting $59 (at last check) female hormone panel for testosterone to test these "boosters"? that like 1 bottle - you just keep buying and go "i think" working? i must start making these money trees :)
 
celc5 said:
Have you ever run forskolin/forslean? Subjectively, I'm a big fan.

I'm not as sharp with HPTA pathways as I used to be. But I think the test increase symptoms are there for me. I feel stable mood, leaning affect, mild increased libido, maybe a touch fuller muscles.
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I don’t particularly seem to notice anything with F-95, which I have dosed up to 100mg per day. People report better results using a 20% extract though, so that is what I will buy if I decide to use it again!
DaeshDontSurf said:
how not anybody going and getting $59 (at last check) female hormone panel for testosterone to test these "boosters"? that like 1 bottle - you just keep buying and go "i think" working? i must start making these money trees :)
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It’s not particularly about an actual significant test increase for me or not. I think of test boosters as being more of a hormonal/sexual health support supplement. If I feel more energetic, less stressed, better sleep, with relentless erections that blast huge loads....I call it a win that is well worth it! I can’t ask for much more out of a supplement than those benefits, and I don’t need a test to gauge those. 👍

Quite a few of them can actually slightly improve body composition too!
 
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DaeshDontSurf said:
how not anybody going and getting $59 (at last check) female hormone panel for testosterone to test these "boosters"? that like 1 bottle - you just keep buying and go "i think" working? i must start making these money trees :)
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This is a reasonable question. I think my perspective is that I'm not expecting test boosters to be anabolic like AAS or ph. I just want them to make me feel good. I'd rather the results improve my quality of life and gym experience than determine what they objectively do in labwork.
 
gymtalk said:
I was thinking of stacking Beta ecdysterone and laxo with my animal stak to make things more exciting. Anyone with any experience with them. I've seen mixed reviews for laxo, but positive with ecdy.

Also looking into bulbine but again, many mixed reviews.
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Ecdy is good but you have to take 1g+ per day and that gets expensive VERY quick. Most products out are underdosed for what is optimal for bodybuilding. We're talking 2-3 bottles/month! If money is not an issue though, you will be pleasantly surprised.
 
gymtalk said:
I was looking at pure labs ecdy, think its 600mg serving. What about laxo?
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Hopefully that is legit stuff. Alot of companies selling bunk ecdy out there. Only a few that I would trust.

Laxo is worthless to me, I have run it a couple times now but everyone responds differently. SUPPOSEDLY there is some sort of synergistic effect from using both ecdy and laxo at the same time though?
 
Kre Anabolyn looks interesting and their reputation seems legit from what I've read. I might run that soon

Careful going too high with ecdy. I was doing 1.5g a day and went up to 3 at some point and it caused some serious stomach discomfort and my blood test wasn't great. I forget what the doc told me but I'll be sticking to the suggested dose for that supp for now on. Just a heads up, don't wanna see anyone else run into issues.
 
soxbsbll05 said:
Hopefully that is legit stuff. Alot of companies selling bunk ecdy out there. Only a few that I would trust.

Laxo is worthless to me, I have run it a couple times now but everyone responds differently. SUPPOSEDLY there is some sort of synergistic effect from using both ecdy and laxo at the same time though?
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Can you please tell one of the company you trust?
 
Ricky10 said:
The original Sparta Nutrition Trojan PCT is the most potent test booster I have ever used. Products with similar profiles just can’t compare to this for some reason. I was definitely porn star status and loved it!
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Anything like this exist now
 
00A said:
Anything like this exist now
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Not that I have found, just similar but not nearly as potent. It was a completely different experience than I knew test boosters were even capable of. I went through 5 bottles or so...

I tend to think that the TeraSorb delivery must have at least played a small part in the enhanced results.

It turned me into a 16 yo again (but hornier)....I had to repaint my bedroom walls! I was so bummed it got taken away. People probably complained that they weren’t able to get anything done, or weren’t able to leave the house.

If anyone is ever lucky enough to find a bottle of Original Sparta Trojan PCT, I advise that they don’t hesitate for a second!
 
Ricky10 said:
Not that I have found, just similar but not nearly as potent. It was a completely different experience than I knew test boosters were even capable of. I went through 5 bottles or so...

I tend to think that the TeraSorb delivery must have at least played a small part in the enhanced results.

It turned me into a 16 yo again (but hornier)....I had to repaint my bedroom walls! I was so bummed it got taken away. People probably complained that they weren’t able to get anything done, or weren’t able to leave the house.

If anyone is ever lucky enough to find a bottle of Original Sparta Trojan PCT, I advise that they don’t hesitate for a second!
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lol, repaint bedroom walls....cream color?
 
gymtalk said:
I ordered some Pure labs Beta Ecdy which arrived today to add to my animal stak cycle.

300mg each capsule, and directions are 2 a day so 600mg in total.

After the 2nd pill I got itchy nipples and felt a little itchy and watery as if my estro has risen. Had a look and my mild gyno had flared up a little bit.

Had a home workout doing press ups and strength was up significantly. Did pretty much almost double the reps and felt like I was getting stronger as the workout continued.

Also my head feels a little different, more of a heavy head feeling, and I can feel a slight anxiety.

Not sure if this is normal for Ecdy, maybe my body needs to adjust to it. Didn't feel any of this after the first pill, maybe just a mild heavy head feeling.

Anyone else experienced this.
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if gyno continues to flare up might add in a mild AI...something like virtus would probably be overkill, but sustain alpha should have you covered nicely, imo.
 
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