Unanswered Can I use this PH as test base?

Nattysstayhome

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Im on a dmz cycle 45mg a day and usually have a test base but not this time around. Can I use a PH called stanolone for a test base? This is the definition and nane and brand of prohoromone

Androstanolone, or stanolone, also known as dihydrotestosterone and sold under the brand name Andractim among others, is an androgen and anabolic steroid medication and hormone which is used mainly in the treatment of low testosterone levels in men. It is also used to treat breast development and small penis in males. The prohoromone is called Strol-50 by built.
 
Nattysstayhome said:
Built are all legit effective prohoromones. They dont put out bogus PHs.
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Has nothing to do with built being legit or not. If that compound is what i think it is, it doesnt do a whole lot.

If you want a ph test base why not just get some 4ad or epiandro instead of taking some shot in the dark on this?
 
5aOHP

Stuff is meh. Get some epiandro or androsterone if you want this.
 
5aOHP is awesome....
























at emptying your wallet.



as for test bases, you DONT NEED ONE> period.

as for the compound you ask of = DHT dht is a hormone test is broken down into.

epi andro = DHT as well

unless your trying to get a hard look while leaning out.. I would just stick to DMZ.. at that dose its highly myotropic
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
5aOHP is awesome....
























at emptying your wallet.



as for test bases, you DONT NEED ONE> period.

as for the compound you ask of = DHT dht is a hormone test is broken down into.

epi andro = DHT as well

unless your trying to get a hard look while leaning out.. I would just stick to DMZ.. at that dose its highly myotropic
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Just curious, why do you say a test base isn't needed? Do you think it's necessary to use a test base during any cycle?
 
SpicedCider said:
Just curious, why do you say a test base isn't needed? Do you think it's necessary to use a test base during any cycle?
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Its not really necessary for a short oral cycle if you feel fine without it. I feel like garbage without one though...
 
jrock645 said:
Its not really necessary for a short oral cycle if you feel fine without it. I feel like garbage without one though...
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Yeah it really depends on the compound and a lot of times it doesn’t really matter what you take with it, you feel like death. Superdrol for instance.

M1T and M1A on the other hand, yeah, the tiredness sets in but if you’re on actual test it’s much much less. Still there though.
 
SpicedCider said:
Just curious, why do you say a test base isn't needed? Do you think it's necessary to use a test base during any cycle?
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no i do not believe it is necessary with anything. back in the day it was hard to get everything in one place or at all.. used to take all kinds of gear.. no test base.. furthermore, Test base is a term myself and some reps from LG came up with as a means to help with lethargy on cycle and sell more of our supplements. now almost 10 yrs later its all I hear. comical really. do you think when they study steroids they use a test base? um no.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
no i do not believe it is necessary with anything. back in the day it was hard to get everything in one place or at all.. used to take all kinds of gear.. no test base.. furthermore, Test base is a term myself and some reps from LG came up with as a means to help with lethargy on cycle and sell more of our supplements. now almost 10 yrs later its all I hear. comical really. do you think when they study steroids they use a test base? um no.
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Agreed, never used test base back in 2001-2005 range put used quasi-pct, even that was shady because it was 6-oxo, ATD etc....don't recall feeling shitty without test base and libido was good enough. Using test test-base now with M1A and I honestly can't tell a markedly noticable difference from back in the M1T, Phera days. But I'm also older so that plays a factor.
 
Quite refreshing to hear that a test base isn’t necessarily required. It gets quite farcical the amount of ‘real’ roid users stating that you HAVE to pin hahahaha. Different strokes for different folks guys and if you can get the desired results from just an oral cycle and don’t mind being a bit tired, then thats ideal for that user.
 
Sheriff Morri said:
Quite refreshing to hear that a test base isn’t necessarily required. It gets quite farcical the amount of ‘real’ roid users stating that you HAVE to pin hahahaha. Different strokes for different folks guys and if you can get the desired results from just an oral cycle and don’t mind being a bit tired, then thats ideal for that user.
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Ehhhh... it’s not just a bit tired. Along side test, it’s a bit tired, alone... strong stuff makes you fall asleep at random. It can be bad.

But no, not necessary, and other things can help you stay awake. Like meth.
 
Sheriff Morri said:
Quite refreshing to hear that a test base isn’t necessarily required. It gets quite farcical the amount of ‘real’ roid users stating that you HAVE to pin hahahaha. Different strokes for different folks guys and if you can get the desired results from just an oral cycle and don’t mind being a bit tired, then thats ideal for that user.
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"Real roid" users with actual knowledge don't go around telling anyone they have to pin.
If you pay attention, it is guys with almost no knowledge telling people that.
But like OW said, with some compounds a "base" helps out tremendously.
 
For me, if I wanna be functional, it appears pinning is mandatory. Wasn’t the case 10 years ago but I was a walking zombie on havoc and DMZ for my last two oral runs. Absolutely brutal lethargy. Never again.
 
I am one of the "ran a few oral ph/steroid cycles ten to fifteen years ago" crowd. Never used a test base. That was with H-DROL, epistane, superdrol, dianabol, anavar (not all in the same cycle). Cycles never ran for longer than 4 to 6 weeks though. Didn't use a serm either until I dabbled with the dbol and var. Ran a cycle last year combining superdrol as a Kickstarter, then lgd over 12 weeks. Because it was a longer cycle I used dermacrine as a base. Wouldn't say it was a test base though, only running test as a base is truly running a test base. Anything else is mitigation of side effects like lethargy and loss of libido, I think about it the same way as taking support sups for organs or joints, it's support for your sense of well being.

I think a lot of guys now feel they need a base because every time they run a new cycle they up the dosages/compounds. I'm guilty of this and last couple of cycles have felt like sh1t after a couple of weeks. Sometimes less is more, I'm trying that theory out at the moment. Incidentally with no test base or even support supps, crazy I know.
 
Wobmarvel said:
I am one of the "ran a few oral ph/steroid cycles ten to fifteen years ago" crowd. Never used a test base. That was with H-DROL, epistane, superdrol, dianabol, anavar (not all in the same cycle). Cycles never ran for longer than 4 to 6 weeks though. Didn't use a serm either until I dabbled with the dbol and var. Ran a cycle last year combining superdrol as a Kickstarter, then lgd over 12 weeks. Because it was a longer cycle I used dermacrine as a base. Wouldn't say it was a test base though, only running test as a base is truly running a test base. Anything else is mitigation of side effects like lethargy and loss of libido, I think about it the same way as taking support sups for organs or joints, it's support for your sense of well being.

I think a lot of guys now feel they need a base because every time they run a new cycle they up the dosages/compounds. I'm guilty of this and last couple of cycles have felt like sh1t after a couple of weeks. Sometimes less is more, I'm trying that theory out at the moment. Incidentally with no test base or even support supps, crazy I know.
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Last couple of times I hit an oral without test I felt like **** in a couple of days.
 
Renew1 said:
"Real roid" users with actual knowledge don't go around telling anyone they have to pin.
If you pay attention, it is guys with almost no knowledge telling people that.
But like OW said, with some compounds a "base" helps out tremendously.
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We will have to agree to disagree on that point then. If YOU pay attention, there are definitely a lot of ‘real’ roid users state pinning is pretty much required.
 
Sheriff Morri said:
We will have to agree to disagree on that point then. If YOU pay attention, there are definitely a lot of ‘real’ roid users state pinning is pretty much required.
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Reread my response dude. I mentioned knowledge. Knowledge is the difference here, not just people shoving chemicals into their bodies.
 
Sheriff Morri said:
We will have to agree to disagree on that point then. If YOU pay attention, there are definitely a lot of ‘real’ roid users state pinning is pretty much required.
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I am pretty sure if you want an Olympia level physique you have to pin. I never have and probably never will but I firmly believe people can't look like that by running six to eight week cycles of prohormones and dermacrine. I do think however you can put on some decent size without pinning then it all comes down to the cut as to how good you can look.
 
Renew1 said:
Reread my response dude. I mentioned knowledge. Knowledge is the difference here, not just people shoving chemicals into their bodies.
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I read it and reread. I can’t vouch for anyone’s knowledge as I don’t know anyone on here personally. I can just go on the knowledge they spout while on here. As I’m sure is the same with you and your perception of other members.
 
Wobmarvel said:
I am pretty sure if you want an Olympia level physique you have to pin. I never have and probably never will but I firmly believe people can't look like that by running six to eight week cycles of prohormones and dermacrine. I do think however you can put on some decent size without pinning then it all comes down to the cut as to how good you can look.
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I doubt I will ever pin either. I enjoy tbol cycles and currently on my 3rd. Lean gains with near no sides and all retainable after PCT
 
Sheriff Morri said:
I read it and reread. I can’t vouch for anyone’s knowledge as I don’t know anyone on here personally. I can just go on the knowledge they spout while on here. As I’m sure is the same with you and your perception of other members.
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LOL.
Thankfully, not at all.
If i don't already know whether or not something that someone is saying is true (and many times I do, because I research), then I have the ability to research what they are saying, and find out if they are full of nonsense (or misinforned) or not.

Uhhh... You have that ability too. Just like everyone here.
 
Renew1 said:
LOL.
Thankfully, not at all.
If i don't already know whether or not something that someone is saying is true (and many times I do, because I research), then I have the ability to research what they are saying, and find out if they are full of nonsense (or misinforned) or not.

Uhhh... You have that ability too. Just like everyone here.
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There’s no need to be sarcastic with your ‘uhhh’ comment I know I have that ability, I use that ability. There was never a point I said I didn’t have that ability. What I said was, that I feel it quite refreshing that a comment about not needing to pin was wrote when the status quo seems to be that pinning is suggested if you decide to go for an oral cycle.
 
Sheriff Morri said:
There’s no need to be sarcastic with your ‘uhhh’ comment I know I have that ability, I use that ability. There was never a point I said I didn’t have that ability. What I said was, that I feel it quite refreshing that a comment about not needing to pin was wrote when the status quo seems to be that pinning is suggested if you decide to go for an oral cycle.
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Off your high horse.... I was stating facts you posted "YOU".
Chill bro. I posted the truth.
 
Thoughts on an 6-8 week anavar only cycle at say 50mg per day? I was thinking up to 80mg a day. With hard training and on point diet of course. Looking for that Jeff Seid look
 
TheSuppGuy said:
Thoughts on an 6-8 week anavar only cycle at say 50mg per day? I was thinking up to 80mg a day. With hard training and on point diet of course. Looking for that Jeff Seid look
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I've done similar cycles. Anavar is my favorite compound, over-all.
 
Renew1 said:
I've done similar cycles. Anavar is my favorite compound, over-all.
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Nice! I know I will make gains on it, since I have a great starting point, great genetics and a good diet, training and sleep scheduele. But my ONLY concern is the surpression from the cycle: if it surpresses me slightly so that my test wont be as high as it is now (very high atm).

I strongly believe what enables me to get great gains is my genetics combined with my high natural testosterone and GH levels, as I'm also only 20 turning 21. But an anavar only cycle, I don't think it will be that dangerous... Still very unsure and will have to wait and see
 
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