Was curious as to what this is good for?
How do the PHs compare (trendione/diendione)? Oral bioavailability better for one over the other?
His was prodienelone/diendione, which is an oral (you can still get it through some UK shops, it was Tren-X here years ago). I remember his log and he had a sick transformation.I seem to remember @hamdysayed did a dienolone the (og brawn tren I think)cycle a couple of years ago, can you chime in bro?
To build muscles and cut fat.Pure Research Oils has dienolone acetate (for IM use) for sale and was curious as to what this is good for?
Yeah mine was the oral ph I think , it was the nastiest cycle nothing made me gain muscle and strength like that !! 27 lbs of muscle in 2 month and kept 22 after cycle . I got so strong it was dumb !I seem to remember @hamdysayed did a dienolone the (og brawn tren I think)cycle a couple of years ago, can you chime in bro?
Yeah bro it was a nasty cycle !! So would u say it’s better than tren Ace ?His was prodienelone/diendione, which is an oral (you can still get it through some UK shops, it was Tren-X here years ago). I remember his log and he had a sick transformation.
Dienelone Ace or E should do all of that and more.
Just the oral can do that? Kept most most of it too! That's insane!Yeah mine was the oral ph I think , it was the nastiest cycle nothing made me gain muscle and strength like that !! 27 lbs of muscle in 2 month and kept 22 after cycle . I got so strong it was dumb !
Yeah man I didn’t buy again cos ppl kept saying they sell bunk now so I didn’t buy again , it also was the nastiest shutdown took along tile to recover , what I learned from anabolics it effect ppl differently.Just the oral can do that? Kept most most of it too! That's insane!
If anyyy at allllllll I don’t think there is any legit sources sells it !! I would run it again if I can find sides wasn’t too bad ( not like tren Ace oh god )ok so let see if i can cull up some info from teh ole data banks..
Its not that dienolone is bunk.. it doesnt absorb orally. so anyone taking it that route will get little to nothing from it. IM and TD applications will work. X-tren is as mentioned the PH to dien, and luckily it had intrinsic action before conversion which made it a great PH back in the day. It is illegal in the state whereas the parental compound has never been listed.
I would say if you can find it stock up. Its getting harder and harder to find legit quality sources.
To confirm, the active in the 2 "tren" ph's below have poor bioavailability?ok so let see if i can cull up some info from teh ole data banks..
Its not that dienolone is bunk.. it doesnt absorb orally. so anyone taking it that route will get little to nothing from it. IM and TD applications will work. X-tren is as mentioned the PH to dien, and luckily it had intrinsic action before conversion which made it a great PH back in the day. It is illegal in the state whereas the parental compound has never been listed.
I would say if you can find it stock up. Its getting harder and harder to find legit quality sources.
Agree, strength goes through the roof.Yeah mine was the oral ph I think , it was the nastiest cycle nothing made me gain muscle and strength like that !! 27 lbs of muscle in 2 month and kept 22 after cycle . I got so strong it was dumb !
That’s what everyone told me it’s weak etc etc , my results n strength gains were phenomenal for something so poorly bio availableTo confirm, the active in the 2 "tren" ph's below have poor bioavailability?
The top one is prodienelone/dienedione, the prohormone to dienelone that hamdysayed blew up on. Most guys did based on old logs.To confirm, the active in the 2 "tren" ph's below have poor bioavailability?
Both of those are PHs and not dienolone.To confirm, the active in the 2 "tren" ph's below have poor bioavailability?
Yeah, i ordered the second one (BN's trenv) last night from a UK supplier after deeing it was the ph to trenbolone.The top one is prodienelone/dienedione, the prohormone to dienelone that hamdysayed blew up on. Most guys did based on old logs.
Notice the one below has an “11” in the nomenclature - that’s Trenavar/trendione, the prohormone to trenbolone. I really battled to eat enough to gain weight on a high dose of trenavar, it’s better for recomping, but I got strong AF.
Injectable dienelone is what this thread is about, and dosed right I suspect it would be stronger than either oral. It’s getting hard to find though.
I'd be curious to hear your opinion on the efficacy WRT oral dosing of those 2 ph's.Both of those are PHs and not dienolone.
Jeez, was that running it solo? What kind of dosage?Yeah mine was the oral ph I think , it was the nastiest cycle nothing made me gain muscle and strength like that !! 27 lbs of muscle in 2 month and kept 22 after cycle . I got so strong it was dumb !
Id run 7alpha from PRE @ 15-30 mgs per day. Its fairly wet but not in a bad way.
Honestly this is the only forum I’ve ever been on & my only account ever here.Oh, and btw....
Hyde, i recognize your handle from the "old days" of am and mindandmuscle i.e. early 2000's. ...good to see you around here.
This would be sick with his low-dose Tvar. Little ralox and some b6, maybe some low dose exem, let the gainz begin.Id run 7alpha from PRE @ 15-30 mgs per day. Its fairly wet but not in a bad way.
I have never used Trest, but 8wks of Trenavar was easily the hardest PCT I’ve ever had. Took a good while to really feel right after that. And I just did a 13wker kicked off with M1T, for comparison.I would stick to strait low dose of trest, and full dose the trenv.
you will get diced, and have very little issues..
to be frank, I recover just fine from trest and have blood work that shows so. besides at a low daily dose the sides are easily managed.
Must have been a different Hyde, than.Honestly this is the only forum I’ve ever been on & my only account ever here.
This would be sick with his low-dose Tvar. Little ralox and some b6, maybe some low dose exem, let the gainz begin.
@Colin running 19-Nors like these may put you on TRT at your age. Treat PCT seriously for this.
Solo yes bad decision yes , dosage was 90 mg I think I went up to 120 it was a while ago but those ranges .Jeez, was that running it solo? What kind of dosage?
That is a super high dose. How long did you run it for?Solo yes bad decision yes , dosage was 90 mg I think I went up to 120 it was a while ago but those ranges .
@Hyde man I agree the nastiest shut down n it took me long to recover wa from that
8 weeks on a oral is pretty rough, though...and you were likely uaing an aggressive dose, as well.I have never used Trest, but 8wks of Trenavar was easily the hardest PCT I’ve ever had. Took a good while to really feel right after that. And I just did a 13wker kicked off with M1T, for comparison.
I ran it for 55 days I had to trash rest of bottle so I don’t get tempted to keep taking it, gainz stopped about week 6 or 7 and sides got nasty at that pointThat is a super high dose. How long did you run it for?
8 weeks on a oral is pretty rough, though...and you were likely uaing an aggressive dose, as well.
I'll run it for 4 weeks, starting with 1/3 cap, thrice daily, for the 1st 2 weeks. May bump it up to 1 1/2 caps at most,on week 3.
Decided to use Dermacrine to help with ameliorating the lack of test. Got a bottle for 30 shipped with a $10 ebay coupon, will use the whole bottle with the 4-5 week Trenv run.
As much as I would like to use low dose m1a and low dose ment, I think that'd be too greedy/dumb on my part.
I leaned out with pronounced vascularity with under half label dosing of 1-T Tren.It’s definitely a stacker. I honestly found it to be more like mast than Tren. It’s not drastic but you will get lean and vascular for sure. My expectations were too high and I think it needs to be ran 500+ if you want to see anything Tren-like w results...
I'm not experienced enough to compare dienolone with anything as I'm only doing test and dbol for first cycle and several weeks in. Isn't mast good for pre contest purposes cause it also hardens muscles? I would probably stack it with test and another bulking AAS.It’s definitely a stacker. I honestly found it to be more like mast than Tren. It’s not drastic but you will get lean and vascular for sure. My expectations were too high and I think it needs to be ran 500+ if you want to see anything Tren-like w results...
Dienolone acetate. I ran it all the way to 450-500/week. Great for vascularity and I most definitely was lean as hell. But it didn’t put on much muscle at all, not like TrenI leaned out with pronounced vascularity with under half label dosing of 1-T Tren.
What compound are you referring to, specifically?
I use Trest to bulk. Dienolone was great for leaning out but not much in the gains department. I’m sure it would stack well with a bulker but not sure what point it would serve at that point other than to limit fat gain.I'm not experienced enough to compare dienolone with anything as I'm only doing test and dbol for first cycle and several weeks in. Isn't mast good for pre contest purposes cause it also hardens muscles? I would probably stack it with test and another bulking AAS.
Dien sounds good for my purposes of leaning. Lucky, I found a research lab selling the transdermal solution. I have to get it now.I use Trest to bulk. Dienolone was great for leaning out but not much in the gains department. I’m sure it would stack well with a bulker but not sure what point it would serve at that point other than to limit fat gain.
What the hell 25 mg per ml lol? Save ur moneyFor transdermal what dosage cycle do you recommend? The one I found is 30 ml and 25 mg/ ml.
It’s basically weaker tren injected , now the pro hormone I’m not sure what the hell its a beastDienolone acetate. I ran it all the way to 450-500/week. Great for vascularity and I most definitely was lean as hell. But it didn’t put on much muscle at all, not like Tren
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