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Unanswered DHB, anything like EQ?

Brain5ick

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Don’t know an awful lot about it but it seems like something I’d be interested in. Was curious since it’s a boldenone does it thicken the blood at the same rate as EQ? How’re the sides on it and dosages? Kinda wanna let you guys make a little cycle for me haha.
 
Looking into this compound myself. I think blood thickening is a side effect of pretty much every androgen. They all stimulate red cell production. It's a very individual-specific side effect, some people don't seem to be overly effected whilst others are more sensitive.

Please don't quote me on this as I could be wrong, but I vaguely recall reading about one compound which didn't have much of a stimulating effect on red cell production. I want to say trestolone but i could be wrong....
 
Ironheart1984 said:
Looking into this compound myself. I think blood thickening is a side effect of pretty much every androgen. They all stimulate red cell production. It's a very individual-specific side effect, some people seem to be effected whilst others are more sensitive.

Please don't quote me on this as I could be wrong, but I vaguely recall reading about one compound which didn't have much of a stimulating effect on red cell production. I want to say trestolone but i could be wrong....
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I have just read that on EQ you almost always have to donate at around 8 weeks because of how stimulating it is to RBC so I was curious if DHB was on that level or not.
 
Yeah it's a question I'm interested in too man. DHB seems to be gaining interest. I guess the rate of the stimulating effect would also depend on dose and the way/rate at which the compound gets into the system.

For example, I can tell you there is a consensus in the TRT field that injecting test would cause a greater degree of polycythemia (high hemoglobin/thick blood) when compared to topical application, and yet the only protocol to combat thickened blood via androgen use (outside of letting blood) is to drop the dose.

So, I would recommend getting bloods before a cycle (good practice anyway) and if hemoglobin/haematocrit is already on the high side i would tread carefully or try and bring it down first. If you give blood on top of an already normal level then happy days.

But once those levels are up androgens will just drive them higher.

As to whether DHB increases it as much as EQ I dont know. Never used either, however I've used a few compounds and every one had an overall similar effect on my red cell count/hemoglobin compared to stand alone TRT. 178-184 (17.8/18.4)
 
EQ has the highest EPO stimulating activity of any steroid.

Nothing will raise RBC faster except pure EPO.

DHB does not raise RBC nearly as fast, and even doesn’t do it as fast as test mg for mg. It’s not an endurance enhancer nearly as much as test prop, npp, anadrol or especially not EQ.

However it is a stronger anabolic than Deca with far less sides.

Effects are closer to Tren E than EQ.
 
The only things it shares with EQ are high ribosomal activity and being sort of long running. People also tend to dose it as high as EQ. Or higher.

It can be run for 20+ weeks and gains can be had the whole time. There is no bloat, glycogen retention is at a normal ratio, so not too much water to tissue. This means very solid and “keepable” gains. No deflation if it’s the major anabolic in the cycle.

Going to be much more explosive in strength and size than EQ or Primo, but just as long winded.
 
Old Witch said:
EQ has the highest EPO stimulating activity of any steroid.

Nothing will raise RBC faster except pure EPO.

DHB does not raise RBC nearly as fast, and even doesn’t do it as fast as test mg for mg. It’s not an endurance enhancer nearly as much as test prop, npp, anadrol or especially not EQ.

However it is a stronger anabolic than Deca with far less sides.

Effects are closer to Tren E than EQ.
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Old Witch said:
The only things it shares with EQ are high ribosomal activity and being sort of long running. People also tend to dose it as high as EQ. Or higher.

It can be run for 20+ weeks and gains can be had the whole time. There is no bloat, glycogen retention is at a normal ratio, so not too much water to tissue. This means very solid and “keepable” gains. No deflation if it’s the major anabolic in the cycle.

Going to be much more explosive in strength and size than EQ or Primo, but just as long winded.
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Very interesting! In your opinion/knowledge is there any oral DHB worth using, or would you recommend injectable only with this compound?
 
Oral 1AD was good. Oral 1T and estered oral 1T were OK. There was a proper oral ester of 1T which was the prodrug mesabolone sold as a prohormone otc as well. That stuff was actually pretty damn good.

Methyl 1T was balls-out awesome. Methyl 1AD is good.
 
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1AD and 1T are the only prohormone/target hormone pair in my experience that ever were really pretty much the same for effects. 1AD actually has worse sides. Acne was worse on 1AD for me, and even worse on 1 Andro. So apparently those structures have some glandular activity moreso than DHB. Same with M1AD vs M1T I’m noticing acne is worse on m1AD than I remember on M1T.
 
These are going to be the strongest tissue building steroids by far. I don’t even think you can gain this much of this kind of quality tissue on tren.
 
Old Witch said:
EQ has the highest EPO stimulating activity of any steroid.

Nothing will raise RBC faster except pure EPO.

DHB does not raise RBC nearly as fast, and even doesn’t do it as fast as test mg for mg. It’s not an endurance enhancer nearly as much as test prop, npp, anadrol or especially not EQ.

However it is a stronger anabolic than Deca with far less sides.

Effects are closer to Tren E than EQ.
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Old Witch said:
The only things it shares with EQ are high ribosomal activity and being sort of long running. People also tend to dose it as high as EQ. Or higher.

It can be run for 20+ weeks and gains can be had the whole time. There is no bloat, glycogen retention is at a normal ratio, so not too much water to tissue. This means very solid and “keepable” gains. No deflation if it’s the major anabolic in the cycle.

Going to be much more explosive in strength and size than EQ or Primo, but just as long winded.
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Very interesting! In your opinion/knowledge is there any oral DHB worth using, or would you recommend injectable only with this compound?
Old Witch said:
1AD and 1T are the only prohormone/target hormone pair in my experience that ever were really pretty much the same for effects. 1AD actually has worse sides. Acne was worse on 1AD for me, and even worse on 1 Andro. So apparently those structures have some glandular activity moreso than DHB. Same with M1AD vs M1T I’m noticing acne is worse on m1AD than I remember on M1T.
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Been having a route around and found nano formulated version of 1T, it's expensive though, and there are still questions over meaningful bioavailability. It does seem an appealing compound given the ratio and lack of methylation, and of course not everyone will want to pin so I wonder.
 
So since it’s cypionate should I only pin this twice a week? I see so many people pinning Ed and eod for it.
 
Ironheart1984 said:
Very interesting! In your opinion/knowledge is there any oral DHB worth using, or would you recommend injectable only with this compound?


Been having a route around and found nano formulated version of 1T, it's expensive though, and there are still questions over meaningful bioavailability. It does seem an appealing compound given the ratio and lack of methylation, and of course not everyone will want to pin so I wonder.
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I’ll be doing a Transdermal 1-test run soon ( I work offshore so I can’t pin) works out a hell of a lot more cheaper and I’ll bet it’s more effective than that nano tech too
 
solidsnake said:
I’ll be doing a Transdermal 1-test run soon ( I work offshore so I can’t pin) works out a hell of a lot more cheaper and I’ll bet it’s more effective than that nano tech too
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Where are you dude? I'm in the UK, the compound is not illegal over here, but I've yet to find a transdermal version. If I could I'd grab it! I bet it is too!
 
Brain5ick said:
So since it’s cypionate should I only pin this twice a week? I see so many people pinning Ed and eod for it.
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Once or twice a week is fine. You see people pinning often because they’re using other stuff with it, or using so much that they can’t feasibly get those done in one sitting comfortably.
 
Old Witch said:
Once or twice a week is fine. You see people pinning often because they’re using other stuff with it, or using so much that they can’t feasibly get those done in one sitting comfortably.
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So if I ran 25mg 4 times a week or 50mg 4 times a week would the pip not be as bad?
 
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