I'm gonna pin!!

Indiglospaz

Indiglospaz

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So I'm at a fork in the road on what to take.
I've never done a testosterone cycle, only a few SARM cycles. I'm 30 years old. 6' 175 9% BF hard gainer. Lifting for 4 years started at 135lbs.

So initially I was going to run
High dose LGD4033, 4-andro and epiandro.

But my thought process is if I'm going to **** with my hpta system I might as well go full bore and dive into a 500mg/week test e cycle.

My concern is recovering my natural test production.

I'd imagine the LGD/andro cycle, though suppressive, would be easier to recover from than full shut down from a testosterone cycle, but not as many gains? There's also the fact of how tricky estrogen control can be. Maybe I'm overthinking it and just need to man up and pin the good ****.

Would the results of the LGD/andro cycle be even close to test? Mind you I don't compete, just trying to have fun and see how far I can push my body and strength.

I already have the LGD and andros ready to go. Got a buddy on standby with the test e that he sells for $75 a bottle of 10ml 250mg/ml on standby. Have doc appointment on the 19th to get bloodwork done, so have until then to decide.
 
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Indiglospaz said:
So I'm at a fork in the road on what to take.
I've never done a testosterone cycle, only a few SARM cycles. I'm 30 years old. 6' 175 9% BF hard gainer. Lifting for 4 years started at 135lbs.

So initially I was going to run
High dose LGD4033, 4-andro and epiandro.

But my thought process is if I'm going to **** with my hpta system I might as well go full bore and dive into a 500mg/week test e cycle.

My concern is recovering my natural test production.

I'd imagine the LGD/andro cycle, though suppressive, would be easier to recover from than full shut down from a testosterone cycle, but not as many gains? There's also the fact of how tricky estrogen control can be. Maybe I'm overthinking it and just need to man up and pin the good ****.

Would the results of the LGD/andro cycle be even close to test? Mind you I don't compete, just trying to have fun and see how far I can push my body and strength.

I already have the LGD and andros ready to go. Got a buddy on standby with the test e that he sells for $75 a bottle of 10ml 250mg/ml on standby. Have doc appointment on the 19th to get bloodwork done, so have until then to decide.
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I’ve always thought that if I’m going to shut myself down, I’m going to get the most out of it! Results from test alone will blow any sarm out of the water and be a lot easier to keep in my opinion. You can run all of the stuff you have and run test at 500mg/week for 10 weeks. If you run a proper pct recovery shouldn’t be too rough. Do your research on what to expect/sides/AI/support supps/how to safely pin. Good luck to you brother!
 
Indiglospaz said:
So I'm at a fork in the road on what to take.
I've never done a testosterone cycle, only a few SARM cycles. I'm 30 years old. 6' 175 9% BF hard gainer. Lifting for 4 years started at 135lbs.

So initially I was going to run
High dose LGD4033, 4-andro and epiandro.

But my thought process is if I'm going to **** with my hpta system I might as well go full bore and dive into a 500mg/week test e cycle.

My concern is recovering my natural test production.

I'd imagine the LGD/andro cycle, though suppressive, would be easier to recover from than full shut down from a testosterone cycle, but not as many gains? There's also the fact of how tricky estrogen control can be. Maybe I'm overthinking it and just need to man up and pin the good ****.

Would the results of the LGD/andro cycle be even close to test? Mind you I don't compete, just trying to have fun and see how far I can push my body and strength.

I already have the LGD and andros ready to go. Got a buddy on standby with the test e that he sells for $75 a bottle of 10ml 250mg/ml on standby. Have doc appointment on the 19th to get bloodwork done, so have until then to decide.
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I’ve always thought that if I’m going to shut myself down, I’m going to get the most out of it! Results from test alone will blow any sarm out of the water and be a lot easier to keep in my opinion. You can run all of the stuff you have and run test at 500mg/week for 10 weeks. If you run a proper pct recovery shouldn’t be too rough. Do your research on what to expect/sides/AI/support supps/how to safely pin. Good luck to you brother!
 
I wouldn’t overthink the shutdown part, I.e. trying to convince yourself that being shutdown from a PH is somehow better than from injectable test.
 
Brienn8989 said:
That’s what I was thinking. 300mg/ml for 35. But you’re also paying for convenience and not having to go through the whole process.
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Buddy gets his bottle for 35, charges you double. Not much profit margin for receiving and distributing illegal goods. Sounds like a convenience fee. Id grab a bottle
 
I did the andros and ph’s then pinned. Agree with all above comments (yeah 75 is pricey but if you know he uses it or others do and it’s gonna give you peace of mind on the source then I’d just get that).

Worth noting that everyone respond differently to test in terms of gains. Some with stack mass on great, some not so much (and would need an additional compound for significant gains). However the feel good factor plus the knowledge you’ll have of how you respond to just test makes it the best idea.
 
Have fun man! Test cycles feel muchhh better than sarms cycles! And the results are much better too. I think test only is a bit underwhelming, but you can get good strength results.

Also yes, $75 a bottle isnt terrible, i pay $45-50 + shipping.
 
jrock645 said:
Oh, and your “buddy” is ripping you off.
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Agree completely...had a buddy selling me vials if test e pharma for 100 a pop. Found a great ugl source for 40 a vial and treated me great. I guess he was the middle man trying to make a percentage...and he suggested tren for my first cycle which I thought was nuts.
 
jrock645 said:
Oh, and your “buddy” is ripping you off.
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Agree completely...had a buddy selling me vials if test e pharma for 100 a pop. Found a great ugl source for 40 a vial and treated me great. I guess he was the middle man trying to make a percentage...and he suggested tren for my first cycle which I thought was nuts.
 
khall1974 said:
Agree completely...had a buddy selling me vials if test e pharma for 100 a pop. Found a great ugl source for 40 a vial and treated me great. I guess he was the middle man trying to make a percentage...and he suggested tren for my first cycle which I thought was nuts.
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Yeah... some friend!
 
Indiglospaz said:
Alright I'mma do it.
How necessary is hcg on cycle?
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I’ve never ran it on cycle. My previous cycles were 10-12 weeks and I had a kid a few years after. If you run a normal beginners cycle, I would say it’s not necessary but that’s just my opinion. Do your research and decide what’s right for you.
 
Paying $75 a bottle from a friend isn’t bad when you consider the fact you’re not committing a felony by receiving controled substances in the mail.OP, if you are concerned with shutdown (and you should be) seriously consider running HCG or at a minimum torem on cycle to minimize suppression. Torem is a great idea because it blocks estrogen too and minimizes AI use
 
RickyBlobby said:
Paying $75 a bottle from a friend isn’t bad when you consider the fact you’re not committing a felony by receiving controled substances in the mail.OP, if you are concerned with shutdown (and you should be) seriously consider running HCG or at a minimum torem on cycle to minimize suppression. Torem is a great idea because it blocks estrogen too and minimizes AI use
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Ty Ricky. Typical dosing protocol? Would a 5000iu bottle be enough for 10 weeks?
 
Indiglospaz said:
Ty Ricky. Typical dosing protocol? Would a 5000iu bottle be enough for 10 weeks?
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Maybe a little less than ideal but would certainly do you a lot of good
 
jrock645 said:
Oh, and your “buddy” is ripping you off.
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Ehh, depends on how much his buddy is paying. It could be some more expensive gear that’s costing him 50-70 a vial himself. If it is like 30-40 a vial though, then yea, definitely overcharging haha.
 
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