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Hey so I have been in sports and working out but I’m trying to take my gains to the next level and same with my fitness. Wanting to start my first cycle but don’t want to hurt my body by doing it incorrect or making a stupid mistake. Some guidance would be much appreciated.
 
Sos said:
Hey so I have been in sports and working out but I’m trying to take my gains to the next level and same with my fitness. Wanting to start my first cycle but don’t want to hurt my body by doing it incorrect or making a stupid mistake. Some guidance would be much appreciated.
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Not too be that guy but I'm going to be that guy.

Advice: Research the HELL out of AAS. Look up side effects, beginner cycles, how to PCT and the reason for itand decide what you want to achieve by cycling. No one can give you advice when you ask a question as broad as give me advice. Do you want to cut? Get strong? Get big as possible?

So use the search function and post some more specific questions after reading up on it. Honestly you'll understand how it works better and you'll actually know what your doing so if something goes wrong your not screwed
 
SouthPawSD said:
Not too be that guy but I'm going to be that guy.

Advice: Research the HELL out of AAS. Look up side effects, beginner cycles, how to PCT and the reason for itand decide what you want to achieve by cycling. No one can give you advice when you ask a question as broad as give me advice. Do you want to cut? Get strong? Get big as possible?

So use the search function and post some more specific questions after reading up on it. Honestly you'll understand how it works better and you'll actually know what your doing so if something goes wrong your not screwed
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^^^ This ^^^
 
So let me ask this then. What is in most cycles. Anabolics estrogen blockers pct? So why I ask a broad question because I tried pro-hormones and the guy in the store didn’t give me 1 bit of correct information or had sharms and pros mixed and ended up getting bad sides. So I have done some research and talked to people but I wanna correct information before I just go off my own research.
 
Sos said:
So let me ask this then. What is in most cycles. Anabolics estrogen blockers pct? So why I ask a broad question because I tried pro-hormones and the guy in the store didn’t give me 1 bit of correct information or had sharms and pros mixed and ended up getting bad sides. So I have done some research and talked to people but I wanna correct information before I just go off my own research.
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Ask us questions pertaining to what you’ve found then. We will be able to help you much much easier if you .

What did they tell you?
What were you running etc. everything will help us answer your questions. Just come back with questions on stuff man. Explaining AAS gets complicated fast and you never end up really learning it.
 
Yep.
Do a LOT of reading (This is a good site).
Don't listen to, or believe wrtten matetial from people trying to sell you things.
 
Sos said:
So let me ask this then. What is in most cycles. Anabolics estrogen blockers pct? So why I ask a broad question because I tried pro-hormones and the guy in the store didn’t give me 1 bit of correct information or had sharms and pros mixed and ended up getting bad sides. So I have done some research and talked to people but I wanna correct information before I just go off my own research.
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No worries man I'll do my best to give you rundown:

Basics for a cycle would be:
-test base (usually testosterone, Test C or E 400-500mg/ week is a common beginner dosage)
-AI/estrogen blocker (ie exemestane or anastrozole) depends on E levels and compounds using. I've never used anastrozole, but exem I usually have used 12.5mg EOD. The AI is kind of a feel thing, some people like/need more/less. Used to keep E levels in check.
-PCT is always required. Used to jumpstart Natty production. Look up clomid and Nolvadex. There are others you can use, but those are the two most tried and true ones.
-oral AAS are added usually as a Kickstarter or finisher. (Most would probably recommend no oral if your first time and just stick with Test)

Hope that helps and gives you something to start your researching. IMO I'd research, come up with a cycle plan based on your research, then post what your proposed cycle would be. You'll get good feedback that way, and trust me if you try to do something stupid someone will make sure to point out your mistake and correct it.
 
I understand what you are saying cause I have studied but still don’t fully get it. But they just said that didn’t need liver protects estrogen blocker so ended up getting bad side-affects tightness in the inner legs and painful nips. So pretty much just want that to never happen again. And what’s the best way to start. I want to gain size but lean muscle
 
I understand what you are saying cause I have studied but still don’t fully get it. But they just said that didn’t need liver protects estrogen blocker so ended up getting bad side-affects tightness in the inner legs and painful nips. So pretty much just want that to never happen again. And what’s the best way to start. I want to gain size but lean muscle
 
Your best bet is to just follow along with some of the threads and logs here. Do some googling of compounds and ancillaries or other terms that may be unfamiliar to you, and ask questions if theres specifically something you need clarification on. Be prepared to put some time into this. This is basically the route i took and learned a ton in a few months. Granted, theres plwnty of dudes here that have likely forgotten more than i know, but its still a good way to go about learning it. Youre going to have to do some legwork on your own as nobody is likely to spoonfeed it all to you. You wont actually learn anything that way, anyway.
 
SouthPawSD said:
No worries man I'll do my best to give you rundown:

Basics for a cycle would be:
-test base (usually testosterone, Test C or E 400-500mg/ week is a common beginner dosage)
-AI/estrogen blocker (ie exemestane or anastrozole) depends on E levels and compounds using. I've never used anastrozole, but exem I usually have used 12.5mg EOD. The AI is kind of a feel thing, some people like/need more/less. Used to keep E levels in check.
-PCT is always required. Used to jumpstart Natty production. Look up clomid and Nolvadex. There are others you can use, but those are the two most tried and true ones.
-oral AAS are added usually as a Kickstarter or finisher. (Most would probably recommend no oral if your first time and just stick with Test)

Hope that helps and gives you something to start your researching. IMO I'd research, come up with a cycle plan based on your research, then post what your proposed cycle would be. You'll get good feedback that way, and trust me if you try to do something stupid someone will make sure to point out your mistake and correct it.
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Feel thing like I have to just test to see what one works with me? When I was having sides from pro hormone I used leprozole
 
NGtrains said:
I just started as well and the biggest thing that’s gonna help is that dirty four letter word R-E-A-D
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So I am going to ask the stupid question of what am I looking for when I read? What the compounds do? This seems like a dumb question but I am serious.
 
Sos said:
So I am going to ask the stupid question of what am I looking for when I read? What the compounds do? This seems like a dumb question but I am serious.
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Type stuff into the search bar and into google. There’s loads of pages talking about this stuff. Just be aware cause some are reviews of products from the companies making the product. And just scroll through threads, hop in them and read. You’ll pick up **** from all of them. A lot will be over your head just like it is mine. But eventually the **** all starts to fit together.
 
NGtrains said:
Type stuff into the search bar and into google. There’s loads of pages talking about this stuff. Just be aware cause some are reviews of products from the companies making the product. And just scroll through threads, hop in them and read. You’ll pick up **** from all of them. A lot will be over your head just like it is mine. But eventually the **** all starts to fit together.
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As long as I know I’m not the only one that an read it and be even more confused! Thanks I’ll post the cycle I come up with for tips!
 
Sos said:
So I am going to ask the stupid question of what am I looking for when I read? What the compounds do? This seems like a dumb question but I am serious.
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Find something that interest you, if you like legal stuff to try go SARMs and SERMs, if you wanna try gray area stuff learn about peptides, if you wanna just know how everything works in general, look up the history of steroids and learn what the compounds are in order from when they came out. I loved looking at pictures of chemical compositions of testosterone and then looking at stuff like superdrol and Dbol etc to see what the differences were. Look in to stuff you’ll want to use etc. that’s how I got in to it. Starting looking at what compounds were in what products way back when.
 
Sos said:
So I am going to ask the stupid question of what am I looking for when I read? What the compounds do? This seems like a dumb question but I am serious.
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If it's an honest question, it isn't stupid at all.

So, you want to know about steroids, and cycling, and support supps, and estrogen, and AIs, etc...... Everything there is to know about steroids, cycling, and how they can affect your body. ....

Pretend for a minute that instead of steroids, you needed to know about geometry......
You couldn't really just start asking questions about Geometry, until you learned everything you needed to know. You wouldn't even know the correct questions to ask at first.
You'd have to start reading about Geometry. Anything you can get your hands on about it.

Most of us here have done TONS of reading about gear, and cycling, because that's the only real way to learn it.
 
Just to chime in here .... as a “beginner” I k ownits not normally suggested to do oral test bc of the liver risks but can anyone suggest one if we HAD to do oral test base?
 
brandlife said:
Just to chime in here .... as a “beginner” I k ownits not normally suggested to do oral test bc of the liver risks but can anyone suggest one if we HAD to do oral test base?
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Oral Testosterone, or oral steroids?

Oral Testosterone generally sucks.
 
brandlife said:
Need the technical term for ordering - active ingredient
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Dermacrine is the name brand. It is what you need to order it.
4 Andro is the name of a compound. It is what you need to order it.
What are you running with the Winstrol?
 
Reading is key...never stop learning. Boards are great, but should supplement your own learning.

Anabolics by William Llewellyn is a hell of a read...and I recommend
 
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