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Just on here asking have any one did anavar only cycle and was it worth smd csn you lean bulk on anavar and thanks
 
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Why only Anavar?
 

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What you think i should take with anavar then and just wanted Mild cycle really
 
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Why not do a trt dose of test for 12 weeks and throw in some Var for the last 8 weeks if you want a light run
 
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If you are female then ok, but for males I really would not recommended oral only cycle...
 

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Thanks guys any best cycle with anavar for 8 Weeks any best stack goes with it snd thanks
 

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I agree with DC on this. Run low dose test around 200-250mgs/week with your Var and you should see good results. This will let the Var shine while the test combats some of the sides that will come from your natural test levels being suppressed.
 
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Yes, and yes. Also stacks great with DHB.

I used up to 100mg for three months by itself and 40mg for almost a whole year straight. By itself. If you’re not going to risk a long run with it, since it’s toxic, I’d suggest using at least some test with it. Preferably a blast dose of test, and as much dhb as you can afford, anavar as high as you can tolerate for eight weeks. Front load the injectables with a double dose the first week, skips over the first 7 weeks of the cycle.

Be prepared for pumps so hard you might actually rip the skin open.
 
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What’s so wrong with running Anavar by itself?
In reality, nothing.

According to broscience it’s no good because your testosterone is shut down and you’re left with just the anavar to fill all the gaps.

For maximum effect, testosterone ought to be used, for sure. But it’s not necessary.
 
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Only cons to a oral only cycle in my opinion is feeling rundown or your junk stops working. If you can handle those its not a big deal.
 
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Yeah.... I've done it. But most would definitely prefer to run some Test with it. You'd feel better, and get better results in the end (of course).
 
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Add dermatrest as a test base? It is good or stupid idea?
 
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Yes, and yes. Also stacks great with DHB.

I used up to 100mg for three months by itself and 40mg for almost a whole year straight. By itself. If you’re not going to risk a long run with it, since it’s toxic, I’d suggest using at least some test with it. Preferably a blast dose of test, and as much dhb as you can afford, anavar as high as you can tolerate for eight weeks. Front load the injectables with a double dose the first week, skips over the first 7 weeks of the cycle.

Be prepared for pumps so hard you might actually rip the skin open.
Old Witch What's a good DHB dosage you recommend? Based on the research I've done, it seems like most people run 400-500 mg/wk. Do you recommend running a higher dose than that if someone's only other steroid use history is a 10-wk cycle of TBol + HCG? Also, on the point you made regarding front-loading the injectables -- just to make sure I understand what you're saying, are you saying it's a good idea to inject 800 mg during the first week, if someone is planning on running 400 mg/wk throughout the cycle (say, 10 wks)?

Thanks as usual
 
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Old Witch What's a good DHB dosage you recommend? Based on the research I've done, it seems like most people run 400-500 mg/wk. Do you recommend running a higher dose than that if someone's only other steroid use history is a 10-wk cycle of TBol + HCG? Also, on the point you made regarding front-loading the injectables -- just to make sure I understand what you're saying, are you saying it's a good idea to inject 800 mg during the first week, if someone is planning on running 400 mg/wk throughout the cycle (say, 10 wks)?

Thanks as usual
Dhb is really good at about 400-600mg and into WOW territory at 600mg and up.

I wouldn’t recommend going over 600mg if it’s your first time using injectable steroids.

Likewise, it’s a great idea to frontload on short cycles or long ones if you have more experience. However if it’s your first time you might not want to do that. Instead pay attention around week 7. That’s where you would be effect and side effect wise as far as the dosage if you had frontloaded. If the next cycle, you’d like to start there, and likely you will, then use double your intended dose the first week. You’ll likely notice that around that time is when things start to really get going and it’s almost as if you can do no wrong in diet or training.

Front loading DHB or primo on your first time using it, though would be more ok. They don’t have major side effects. Other compounds though, first time out don’t front load.

Also, with shorter esters than cypionate, front loading is completely not necessary. With very long esters it’s much more desirable. Deca and EQ especially.

If the plan were only 10 weeks, I’d be inclined to say frontloading should be considered mandatory if using cypionate ester or longer.
 
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Dhb is really good at about 400-600mg and into WOW territory at 600mg and up.

I wouldn’t recommend going over 600mg if it’s your first time using injectable steroids.

Likewise, it’s a great idea to frontload on short cycles or long ones if you have more experience. However if it’s your first time you might not want to do that. Instead pay attention around week 7. That’s where you would be effect and side effect wise as far as the dosage if you had frontloaded. If the next cycle, you’d like to start there, and likely you will, then use double your intended dose the first week. You’ll likely notice that around that time is when things start to really get going and it’s almost as if you can do no wrong in diet or training.

Front loading DHB or primo on your first time using it, though would be more ok. They don’t have major side effects. Other compounds though, first time out don’t front load.

Also, with shorter esters than cypionate, front loading is completely not necessary. With very long esters it’s much more desirable. Deca and EQ especially.

If the plan were only 10 weeks, I’d be inclined to say frontloading should be considered mandatory if using cypionate ester or longer.
Old Witch I appreciate the advice. I am actually going to be going on a required vacation (of sorts) for school around mid-May, and I will be starting my cycle most likely during the first week of April, so the start of the vacation will probably coincide with week ~7 of my cycle. When taking into consideration the... environment I'll be in (girls, clubs, etc.), it will definitely be in my best interests for the drug to have kicked-in by then, so I think I'll frontload with a double dose during that first week, just so I can be assured that I'll be well into gains-making territory by the time of my vacation.

I will also be taking a low dose (~170-180 mg/wk) of test prop throughout the cycle along with either Anavar or TBol, unless you think throwing in an oral would be too much? Strongly considering Anavar for both the aesthetic benefits as well the purported joint health benefits.
 
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Why to use test+anavar? Many people just prefer if and feels better stacking them, it also adds much more size and it keeps you lean.

Why run test solo? Because it's a decent beginners cycle and it's cheap, non methylated and you feel good.

Why run anavar solo? Don't because it's expensive and it sucks. There are far cheaper alternatives if you don't wanna use needles, it's also methylated so regardless of what people say its not safe, definitely not safer than test.
 
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Old Witch I appreciate the advice. I am actually going to be going on a required vacation (of sorts) for school around mid-May, and I will be starting my cycle most likely during the first week of April, so the start of the vacation will probably coincide with week ~7 of my cycle. When taking into consideration the... environment I'll be in (girls, clubs, etc.), it will definitely be in my best interests for the drug to have kicked-in by then, so I think I'll frontload with a double dose during that first week, just so I can be assured that I'll be well into gains-making territory by the time of my vacation.

I will also be taking a low dose (~170-180 mg/wk) of test prop throughout the cycle along with either Anavar or TBol, unless you think throwing in an oral would be too much? Strongly considering Anavar for both the aesthetic benefits as well the purported joint health benefits.
If you're not on trt I'd say at least go 200mg test and you can be pretty sure you're above your natural levels.
 
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If you're not on trt I'd say at least go 200mg test and you can be pretty sure you're above your natural levels.
Not on TRT. Do you think I'll need an AI @200 mg/wk Chados? Also, if I will be running DHB + Anavar as the mainstays of my cycle, do you think 200 mg/wk is necessary, or would I be better off going with 175 mg/wk (25 mg/day of test prop) if I want to avoid having to use an AI?

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No way to tell. I could get up to 500/600 and not need ai. Some ppl need it at 100
 
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Not on TRT. Do you think I'll need an AI @200 mg/wk Chados? Also, if I will be running DHB + Anavar as the mainstays of my cycle, do you think 200 mg/wk is necessary, or would I be better off going with 175 mg/wk (25 mg/day of test prop) if I want to avoid having to use an AI?

Thanks
Yeah agree with Smont here. 200 is on the low side but it's definitely high enough for people to have estrogen raise and so is 175. I don't think you'll need more than maybe 0.25 or even 0.10 mg of say arimidex.
 
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Yeah agree with Smont here. 200 is on the low side but it's definitely high enough for people to have estrogen raise and so is 175. I don't think you'll need more than maybe 0.25 or even 0.10 mg of say arimidex.
Thanks Chados. Do you know if it will be necessary to start taking a low dose of Arimidex right from the beginning of my cycle? Or is it better to wait to see if I notice any high-E symptoms? Not sure how high of a risk there is of developing gyno on such a low dose of test prop, but I would just hate to not take Arimidex, develop gyno early, and then not really be able to do anything about it.
 
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Thanks Chados. Do you know if it will be necessary to start taking a low dose of Arimidex right from the beginning of my cycle? Or is it better to wait to see if I notice any high-E symptoms? Not sure how high of a risk there is of developing gyno on such a low dose of test prop, but I would just hate to not take Arimidex, develop gyno early, and then not really be able to do anything about it.
Nah just take it if you feel something, it'll be reversed don't worry. Starting instantly will crush estrogen and that my friend will make you sleepy haha
 
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Nah just take it if you feel something, it'll be reversed don't worry. Starting instantly will crush estrogen and that my friend will make you sleepy haha
Chados Yeah, not only that, but I want to keep at least some E so that my joints won't get (more) destroyed during the cycle (already have a labrum tear and a rotator cuff, both in opposite shoulders). Just curious, is gyno one of the first signs of high E that guys typically notice?
 
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Chados Yeah, not only that, but I want to keep at least some E so that my joints won't get (more) destroyed during the cycle (already have a labrum tear and a rotator cuff, both in opposite shoulders). Just curious, is gyno one of the first signs of high E that guys typically notice?
Sorry to hear that. Yeah Id say it's probably the first you'll notice. It's not gonna happen over night, it'll take days, weeks even before it's irreversible
 
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Just curious, is gyno one of the first signs of high E that guys typically notice?
You might feel bloated, weight might go up, you can feel your joints crack less, you might feel hot flushes, you can get more zits, the small ones on the top of the skin type, you might get more emotional, especially more inclined towards sadnes/melancholic, libido drops... It gets more spefic for every individual though. I for one can know by the cracking of my neck lol Done bloods so many times and remembered how I felt at that specific blood values.
 
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If you start getting bloated, your face usually swelles first or you get itchy tits. Those are good signs
 
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Sorry to hear that. Yeah Id say it's probably the first you'll notice. It's not gonna happen over night, it'll take days, weeks even before it's irreversible
Ok, I'll order some Arimidex just in case. On the topic of joint injuries, do you have any experience with using HGH to help heal joint injuries like rotator cuff tears? Chados
 
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Ok, I'll order some Arimidex just in case. On the topic of joint injuries, do you have any experience with using HGH to help heal joint injuries like rotator cuff tears? Chados
Not for healing no. I'm really bad to speak when it comes to healing or sides, I understand them but I never experience them. Hgh will take a while to be effective and it's quite expensive, Mk677 is a great alternative. Sorry I noticed someone tagged me but I thought that was in another thread so I completely missed it!
 
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Chados Yeah, not only that, but I want to keep at least some E so that my joints won't get (more) destroyed during the cycle (already have a labrum tear and a rotator cuff, both in opposite shoulders). Just curious, is gyno one of the first signs of high E that guys typically notice?
Your titts won't just transform over night, you can go days probably weeks with some pain and chances are you might end up with a lump but rarely do you get actual titts on a cycle like this. It's not pain you can't take but you will notice it for sure. Kinda like a bruise type of feeling but also itchy and a little burning. Nothing to worry about if you have nolva or an ai on hand.
 
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Your titts won't just transform over night, you can go days probably weeks with some pain and chances are you might end up with a lump but rarely do you get actual titts on a cycle like this. It's not pain you can't take but you will notice it for sure. Kinda like a bruise type of feeling but also itchy and a little burning. Nothing to worry about if you have nolva or an ai on hand.
Most ppl get them long after the cycle is over
 

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