Stacking 1-andro and 4-andro

shelly0314

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Im bout to start my first cycle ever. I plan on stackin 1-andro and 4-andro at the same time from unnatural labs. When I bought it, it came as two separate stacks. The 1-andro and a PCT and then the 4-andro and a PCT. I plan on doing the 1 and the 4 at the same time for 4-6 weeks then take PCT. My question is that if I do both the 1 and the 4 do I need to double my PCT afterwards? I wanna make sure I don't mess up and do the wrong thing.
 
No you would do the same pct afterwards. No need to double dose it since you stacked it.
 
shelly0314 said:
Im bout to start my first cycle ever. I plan on stackin 1-andro and 4-andro at the same time from unnatural labs. When I bought it, it came as two separate stacks. The 1-andro and a PCT and then the 4-andro and a PCT. I plan on doing the 1 and the 4 at the same time for 4-6 weeks then take PCT. My question is that if I do both the 1 and the 4 do I need to double my PCT afterwards? I wanna make sure I don't mess up and do the wrong thing.
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IMO, you should really get a SERM (Nolva or Clomid..) for your PCT.
Any "PCT" product that was included with your order wouldn't be considered a sufficient PCT by most on this board.
 
Oconns28 said:
Don’t most on this board consider 1 and 4 pretty mild? Correct me if I’m wrong but BloodManor didn’t you say you didn’t use any pct with Chem 1 and 4?
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Most of the guys on this board recommend a SERM for 1Andro and 4Andro. Some guys don't use a SERM ... but some guys also don't use a SERM for hardcore gear.
That doesn't make it advisable.
 
Renew1 said:
Most of the guys on this board recommend a SERM for 1Andro and 4Andro. Some guys don't use a SERM ... but some guys also don't use a SERM for hardcore gear.
That doesn't make it advisable.
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(Put it into a search on this board, and read the recommendations, and comments).
 
Oconns28 said:
Don’t most on this board consider 1 and 4 pretty mild? Correct me if I’m wrong but BloodManor didn’t you say you didn’t use any pct with Chem 1 and 4?
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I always recommend people to use a pct and I have always used one myself, except one time back in the day before anyone knew you had too lol
 
Like others said i'd probably grab a serm like nolva or clomid for pct. I'm assuming the pct that came with the stack is an otc pct product so it's not as strong as a serm.
 
What would you recommend as the dosage for 1 and 4 over 8 weeks, along with pct on clomid after the fact? I am looking to run a "pro-metabolic" stack to help lean out while training hard, and eating in a 200 calorie deficit. Thank you
 
Tsteele60 said:
What would you recommend as the dosage for 1 and 4 over 8 weeks, along with pct on clomid after the fact? I am looking to run a "pro-metabolic" stack to help lean out while training hard, and eating in a 200 calorie deficit. Thank you
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330mg a day of each.....that’s about as low as it’s worth doing imo
 
The PCT I got from the stacks are called beast from unnatural labs. It didn't say anything bout SERMS. but ima do some more research. thanks for all the input.
 
shelly0314 said:
The PCT I got from the stacks are called beast from unnatural labs. It didn't say anything bout SERMS. but ima do some more research. thanks for all the input.
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Yeah as we all said above that ain’t a pct bro.

Clomid or nolva are what you want
 
Probably going to run this for low sides vs gains sometime in march.

Will use Clomid 25/25/25/25 and OL Super PCT...that should cover it?? Its not cheap this stack so am hoping running this over my Halodrol/Dermacrine stack brings some decent results with low sides.
 
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