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Prescription MK677

YoungThor

YoungThor

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So MK677 is now available for prescription in the US. I don’t know when exactly this happened but it seemed to fly under the radar a bit. Anyway I just wanted to bring this up to those who don’t know. Some of you older guys might even be able to get it prescribed relatively easily. I’m pretty sure you can even get it prescribed over the internet by having a Skype consultation with a doctor (you probably have to send bloodwork too). I am a little concerned about how this will effect research companies’ ability to sell it though. In any case, it’ll eventually move from the grey market to the black market I’m sure.
 
YoungThor said:
So MK677 is now available for prescription in the US. I don’t know when exactly this happened but it seemed to fly under the radar a bit. Anyway I just wanted to bring this up to those who don’t know. Some of you older guys might even be able to get it prescribed relatively easily. I’m pretty sure you can even get it prescribed over the internet by having a Skype consultation with a doctor (you probably have to send bloodwork too). I am a little concerned about how this will effect research companies’ ability to sell it though. In any case, it’ll eventually move from the grey market to the black market I’m sure.
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What are they prescribing it for?
 
But considering how many RC sites sell Sildenafil and Tadalafil (spelling?), among other prescribed drugs, who knows; they may still carry it.
 
here is an article of interest. looks like we may have some new options on the horizon.

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I think HRT clinics have been doing this for a while after searching Google "Prescriptioin MK 677" there were quite a few hits, and at a glance 2017, and maybe before. I never thought of searching that phrase like most here. I bet they charge a premium.
 
Titan Medical prescribes it in 40mg tabs and has been doing so for quite awhile at this point. I’m sure many other HRT clinics do as well. Especially if a concierge service as Titan.
 
Old Witch said:
Titan Medical prescribes it in 40mg tabs and has been doing so for quite awhile at this point. I’m sure many other HRT clinics do as well. Especially if a concierge service as Titan.
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I saw one company that was prescribing as high as 50mg tabs. I thought there was supposed to be no benefit to going higher than 25mg. I know hgh secretion is basically the same at 10mg as it is at 25mg but igf-1 conversion for some reason increases with the dose but I thought it didn’t increase any higher beyond 25mg.
 
YoungThor said:
I saw one company that was prescribing as high as 50mg tabs. I thought there was supposed to be no benefit to going higher than 25mg. I know hgh secretion is basically the same at 10mg as it is at 25mg but igf-1 conversion for some reason increases with the dose but I thought it didn’t increase any higher beyond 25mg.
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When someone says no benefit, either they mean they got scared of a side effect or didn’t ride the dose long enough. That goes for almost any drug. Most of the time. Obviously when someone says no benefit going over 3g of gear weekly, that’s different.

It seems to be medically sound that up to 50mg TWICE daily will be the maximum benefit for a male at 250lbs and less. Also, likely, maximum sides.

But that’s how GH and it’s ilk work. GH has notable side effects, feelings, when you pin it.

Tingling hands and feet is high blood sugar, hunger is from mimicking ghrelin.

Personally, I recommend 25mg as that seems adequate, and other drugs may be combined for a better effect at lesser cost than a high dose of mk.
 
YoungThor said:
I saw one company that was prescribing as high as 50mg tabs. I thought there was supposed to be no benefit to going higher than 25mg. I know hgh secretion is basically the same at 10mg as it is at 25mg but igf-1 conversion for some reason increases with the dose but I thought it didn’t increase any higher beyond 25mg.
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That's true. It does very little between 25 and 50 but a lot between 10 and 25.

25 is all you need.
 
Chados said:
That's true. It does very little between 25 and 50 but a lot between 10 and 25.

25 is all you need.
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Going to both agree and disagree here. Basically, either take 25mg once a day, or take 50mg twice a day. Nothing inbetween will be particularly notable.
 
Admittedly, I have NOT taken the 50mg 2x per day dosage. But I will be trying that this year. What I understand is at 100mg the IGF1 levels are so constantly high that it negates the blood sugar issues caused by the 25mg and under dosages.
 
Been looking into mk677. Anybody wanna give me the name of a quality brand that you have had good success withNon prescription of course. Found a lot out there but I don't what is real mk677 and what are rip offs.
 
Old Witch said:
Going to both agree and disagree here. Basically, either take 25mg once a day, or take 50mg twice a day. Nothing inbetween will be particularly notable.
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There are studies made on this. This isn't something we add like hgh, we just make our own bodies produce more. Hgh would be noticible

10vs50mg study shoes that gh wasn't much higher but igf was a lot higher. Now at 25mg you'll see that you could expect diminishing returns in both areas by going higher.

As for gh only 10mg is sufficient, at 25mg if you want the igf.
 
Chados said:
There are studies made on this. This isn't something we add like hgh, we just make our own bodies produce more. Hgh would be noticible
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Correct. However, since this is essentially a ghrelin mimic, that holds some meaning as well, because in that case it IS additive and that’s why even though GH release is maximized at only 10 mg or so, IGF1 and other growth factors still increase as the dosage rises. Because they are not SOLELY dependent upon GH to release them.
 
Old Witch said:
Correct. However, since this is essentially a ghrelin mimic, that holds some meaning as well, because in that case it IS additive and that’s why even though GH release is maximized at only 10 mg or so, IGF1 and other growth factors still increase as the dosage rises. Because they are not SOLELY dependent upon GH to release them.
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But you didn't hear what I just said. Neither gh or igf1 increase much after 25mg
 
Chados said:
But you didn't hear what I just said. Neither gh or igf1 increase much after 25mg
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Medical community seems to think otherwise at this point? Which is why it’s prescribed this way. Also, IGF1 is not the sole growth factor. Localized mgf still increases.

You know these things man, put that big brain to work.
 
Old Witch said:
Going to both agree and disagree here. Basically, either take 25mg once a day, or take 50mg twice a day. Nothing inbetween will be particularly notable.
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Thats not how it works.... Mk up to 12.5 mg sees an increase in hgh but not much in igf-1. Up to 25mg sees significant increase in igf-1 but not more gh than 12.5 mg. After 25mg neither increases much if it all. Youve reached the point of diminishing returns which means only sides increase none of the benefits. Diminishing return is a real thing w mk. Upping the dose to 100mg wont do anything good.

Theres studies to back that.
 
Old Witch said:
Medical community seems to think otherwise at this point? Which is why it’s prescribed this way. Also, IGF1 is not the sole growth factor. Localized mgf still increases.

You know these things man, put that big brain to work.
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Look I've never said it doesn't increase but it's very little and it's just not worth it. In my opinion it's better to use real hgh than to spend that amount of money regardless if you have it.
 
Godstrength said:
Thats not how it works.... Mk up to 12.5 mg sees an increase in hgh but not much in igf-1. Up to 25mg sees significant increase in igf-1 but not more gh than 12.5 mg. After 25mg neither increases much if it all. Youve reached the point of diminishing returns which means only sides increase none of the benefits. Diminishing return is a real thing w mk. Upping the dose to 100mg wont do anything good.

Theres studies to back that.
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Yeah I'm not sure where there has been studies to suggest otherwise but I'm open to change my mind. I just think they would have noticed it during the former studies. Its been cleared apparently for medical use in the US but that doesn't mean the dosage has increase. 25mg mk is extremely beneficial and cheap compared to hgh.
 
Chados said:
Yeah I'm not sure where there has been studies to suggest otherwise but I'm open to change my mind. I just think they would have noticed it during the former studies. Its been cleared apparently for medical use in the US but that doesn't mean the dosage has increase. 25mg mk is extremely beneficial and cheap compared to hgh.
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Sure, but nobody is prescribing it that low that I have seen. It’s all 40 and 50mg tabs looks like.
 
Godstrength said:
Thats not how it works.... Mk up to 12.5 mg sees an increase in hgh but not much in igf-1. Up to 25mg sees significant increase in igf-1 but not more gh than 12.5 mg. After 25mg neither increases much if it all. Youve reached the point of diminishing returns which means only sides increase none of the benefits. Diminishing return is a real thing w mk. Upping the dose to 100mg wont do anything good.

Theres studies to back that.
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Tell that to the doc prescribing it that way then I guess. I really have nothing more to add at this point. I’m willing to try it, myself.
 
I’m surprised that when our dose is actually less than the doctor’s dose, instead of opening our minds, we close them and go “nuh-uh, stupid doctor.”
 
Old Witch said:
I’m surprised that when our dose is actually less than the doctor’s dose, instead of opening our minds, we close them and go “nuh-uh, stupid doctor.”
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Lol research bro... With igf1 and gh levels recorded at doses that tell you whether or not its working... Youre a science guy. What am I missing?

TRT docs prescribe doses up to 300mg.... It isnt because its good for you and science backs it up. I'll look for the study
 
Godstrength said:
Lol research bro... With igf1 and gh levels recorded at doses that tell you whether or not its working... Youre a science guy. What am I missing?

TRT docs prescribe doses up to 300mg.... It isnt because its good for you and science backs it up. I'll look for the study
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Serum IGF is not local mgf though. That’s what I’m mainly talking about here. I think there is evidence to suggest that the release of mgf is increased as the dosage increases. Even beyond 25mg.

Unfortunately they can’t measure localized mgf, as far as I have been made aware.
 
Also I think American medicine is horrible.... More than half the time doctors prescribe **** just because. They treat symptoms with meds rather than the underlying cause.
 
Hows that for opening your mind instead of just accepting a medical system that the federal government has set in place
 
Godstrength said:
Also I think American medicine is horrible.... More than half the time doctors prescribe **** just because. They treat symptoms with meds rather than the underlying cause.
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Well... it’s for-profit. So, inherently, it cannot be all-goodly and all-well. Conversely, government-owned medicine cannot by nature be all goodly and all well, simply because of government involvement in and of itself.

Unfortunately this is our world. Just how it is, either care by profiteers or care by government. The doctors are just trying to do their jobs, as they are told to do them by their employer.

I think this is another discussion entirely.
 
Old Witch said:
Well... it’s for-profit. So, inherently, it cannot be all-goodly and all-well. Conversely, government-owned medicine cannot by nature be all goodly and all well, simply because of government involvement in and of itself.

Unfortunately this is our world. Just how it is, either care by profiteers or care by government. The doctors are just trying to do their jobs, as they are told to do them by their employer.

I think this is another discussion entirely.
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I agree OW
 
Well back to the point. Mk might be prescribed up to 50mg and it's possible it comes with little to no sides and it does increase igf1 slightly and I can't remember but maybe even slightly the gh and this could be a reason for them to dose it that way. If we're talking in terms of is it worth it for us gymrats to pay twice the amount because of it? Probably not. Anadrol was prescribed at 150mg for MONTHS and I doubt any of us needs more than 50 for muscle waste during a vacation or to preserve muscle during a cut. Medicin and bodybuilding doesn't go hand in hand. You can argue that 10mg is enough for fatloss.
 
Chados said:
Well back to the point. Mk might be prescribed up to 50mg and it's possible it comes with little to no sides and it does increase igf1 slightly and I can't remember but maybe even slightly the gh and this could be a reason for them to dose it that way. If we're talking in terms of is it worth it for us gymrats to pay twice the amount because of it? Probably not. Anadrol was prescribed at 150mg for MONTHS and I doubt any of us needs more than 50 for muscle waste during a vacation or to preserve muscle during a cut. Medicin and bodybuilding doesn't go hand in hand. You can argue that 10mg is enough for fatloss.
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Ok then.
 
Marc Lobliner, the dude who owns Tiger Fitness and makes a lot of YouTube videos is prescribed 25mg tabs and the first company that comes up for me when I search for prescription mk sells tabs that are 10, 15, and 25mg. So I haven’t seen anything to indicate that it’s mostly being prescribed at 40 and 50mg but I have seen that some pharma companies offer that. I bring up Lobliner because he’s the only person I’ve seen admit they’re prescribed it.
 
YoungThor said:
Marc Lobliner, the dude who owns Tiger Fitness and makes a lot of YouTube videos is prescribed 25mg tabs and the first company that comes up for me when I search for prescription mk sells tabs that are 10, 15, and 25mg. So I haven’t seen anything to indicate that it’s mostly being prescribed at 40 and 50mg but I have seen that some pharma companies offer that. I bring up Lobliner because he’s the only person I’ve seen admit they’re prescribed it.
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Dave palumbo as well is prescribed it. At 40mg. In fact he was demonizing it until (just friggen pin GH) Titan gave it to him. I search a lot of HRT clinics and results rankings are based on activity and other factors, so it’s likely our google experience on this one is different.


Though, thank you for that data and observation.
 
Have you seen what the these hrt clinics charge for it? No wonder they are prescribing high doses. Rip off.
 
user567 said:
Have you seen what the these hrt clinics charge for it? No wonder they are prescribing high doses. Rip off.
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Its all about the money bro... And its the same shyt you get from a good RC company.

Thats why I self administer trt. Fck paying 200 dollars a month (or more) for what cost me about 15$/month between test and ai.

I can do my own bloods too thanks.
 
Chados said:
I mean at this point it's almost worth throwing in hgh instead. Even 2iu would be significant with mk at 25 and not really that expensive.
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Yes I can agree there, if insurance doesn’t cover a script and it’s much more expensive via that route, then absolutely. Add in something else instead. I think we have all seen the miracles of mk and cjc dac; mk and hexarelin pwo, cjc no dac and hex pwo, or all of the above stacked.

So yes, definitely correct that it is not necessarily economical for the benefit. However, if money is no object when it comes to your PEDs... go for it I say. And add the GH too. **** just take it all.
 
Old Witch said:
Yes I can agree there, if insurance doesn’t cover a script and it’s much more expensive via that route, then absolutely. Add in something else instead. I think we have all seen the miracles of mk and cjc dac; mk and hexarelin pwo, cjc no dac and hex pwo, or all of the above stacked.

So yes, definitely correct that it is not necessarily economical for the benefit. However, if money is no object when it comes to your PEDs... go for it I say. And add the GH too. **** just take it all.
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The only argument besides the effect on studies would be safety. How safe is mk in the 100s? I don't doubt it's quite safe but am I willing to take the risk for the effect it gives, probably not. Mk is alone a fantastic compound at least for me. Ive been eating so much **** lately and I actually look more pumped and lean. People say it takes 6 months to a year, I'm willing to bet against that. I think it's quite effective even during the first weeks.
 
Prescribed MK is still going to be more expensive on the wallet vs underground I would assume just as trt is. There are plenty of fantastic MK sources out there and it’s not illegal yet...

And pretty sure most studies have proved MK677 to have diminishing returns beyond a certain amt such as 25mg and above. At that point just wasting money
 
LGTWHIT said:
Prescribed MK is still going to be more expensive on the wallet vs underground I would assume just as trt is. There are plenty of fantastic MK sources out there and it’s not illegal yet...

And pretty sure most studies have proved MK677 to have diminishing returns beyond a certain amt such as 25mg and above. At that point just wasting money
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Exactly man... Its really an open and shut case with the dose. I have an mk677 whats the verdict thread I started where Mike Arnold posted all the studies showing it. Its like 300 pages long tho, no way I'm going through it all haha
 
LGTWHIT said:
Prescribed MK is still going to be more expensive on the wallet vs underground I would assume just as trt is. There are plenty of fantastic MK sources out there and it’s not illegal yet...

And pretty sure most studies have proved MK677 to have diminishing returns beyond a certain amt such as 25mg and above. At that point just wasting money
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Not necessarily. If you have great private insurance and pay all your premiums, good chance it’s covered. In that case why not take the prescribed dosage?
 
At this point though I am more curious than anything as I am certain nobody here has tried that much mk. And curious as to why it’s prescribed so high in sports HRT.
 
Hmmmm.... maybe I’ll do an experiment. Got enough to feed the world.... 100mg’s geesh, that’s a ton, 8x more than my normal dose of only 12.5
 
LGTWHIT said:
Hmmmm.... maybe I’ll do an experiment. Got enough to feed the world.... 100mg’s geesh, that’s a ton, 8x more than my normal dose of only 12.5
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Bloat city bloat bloat bloat city haha. LMK how that goes Whit

25 mg makes me bloated as shyt... Worse than test and dbol.

Another weird side for me is depression. I've gone on and off it enough times to know that this is definite culprit. Look it up also correlation to depression and mk677.
 
I’ve tried 20mg and 25mg and then decided to drop it to 10mg and I’m pretty much getting the same benefit at this dose as I was at a higher dose but minus the side effects. I don’t get bloated from it now. My hunger isn’t greatly increased (I’m in a cut so I don’t want that).

And I agree with Chados when he said it doesn’t take 6-12 months to really notice how mk has benefited you. I believe you start to see changes in your physique in the first couple weeks. You look more pumped and leaner at the same time. And it increases strength quickly. At least it does for me.
 
Godstrength said:
Bloat city bloat bloat bloat city haha. LMK how that goes Whit

25 mg makes me bloated as shyt... Worse than test and dbol.

Another weird side for me is depression. I've gone on and off it enough times to know that this is definite culprit. Look it up also correlation to depression and mk677.
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Like I tried to imply before, there is evidence to suggest that the bloating will actually diminish as the dosage rises above 40mg or so. So in this instance, if that were true, he benefit of a higher dose is actually LESS side effects, not more. How that works, from what I do understand, has to do with the other growth factors triggered by high levels of ghrelin. I may have misthought or misspoke when I mentioned IGF, because I think it’s specifically mgf and an enzyme that mobilizes fat that increase.
 
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