S4 vs rad 140 for cutting

Mwhite530

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Hey everyone! So I was just wondering, would it be better to run s4 or rad for a cutting cycle? I know they’re both good for “dry” gains and strength gains, but I was just wondering which would provide better results? (Dryness, muscle fullness, strength/ muscle retention)
 
Mwhite530 said:
Hey everyone! So I was just wondering, would it be better to run s4 or rad for a cutting cycle? I know they’re both good for “dry” gains and strength gains, but I was just wondering which would provide better results? (Dryness, muscle fullness, strength/ muscle retention)
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Can't speak for rad but s4 is supposedly the strongest sarm and it'll give you winstrol like effect (veiny) shredded kind of look. Obviously you have to be in shape to notice the effect and it's not gonna be close to winstrol but it can be worth adding to a cycle.
 
I went through half a bottle of rad on my current cruise.
I really couldnt tell much.
I am also on EQ 300mg
Test 250
Mk677/cjc1295 sac
Couldn't feel the rad 140 through the other compounds
The reason I think is because the effects are a lot like test...
Now s4 once you get to100mg
Your going to feel it.
Veins and gains.
But at 100mg a day it gets expensive.
So of the 2 you mention ed s4 IMO will be a better cutter
 
Full PCT always
You gonna be suppressed
I would add epiandro to that S4
At least to keep the mojo flowing right
Epiandro at 800 mg a day would have you drier and happier
But that's just my opinion
 
Cgkone said:
Full PCT always
You gonna be suppressed
I would add epiandro to that S4
At least to keep the mojo flowing right
Epiandro at 800 mg a day would have you drier and happier
But that's just my opinion
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Alright so would clomid at 50/50/25/25 be considered a full pct or would I need nolva too?
 
Cgkone said:
Most of the brands are going to be good most of them are going to be good you're not going to find much bunk epiandro
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Yeah bro that’s what I was guessing. I’ve never used pro-hormones so should I really do 800mg or would it be better to start with like 150 or 200? Especially since if I was doing 800 I’d go through a bottle per day lol
 
Just have Epi Andro on hand and run S4 by itself. If you start to feel lethargic and low sex drive and you can add the epiandro
 
I run S4 twice now but never without a test bass so I'm not sure what it feels like by itself. What I do know is that it works really good
 
Cgkone said:
I run S4 twice now but never without a test bass so I'm not sure what it feels like by itself. What I do know is that it works really good
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Oh I see what you mean now. Ive heard people talk about test bases a lot and were surprised when they found out that I ran lgd without one and felt fine. I’m 19, so maybe I just have really high test already? Or am I misunderstanding how the whole test base thing works?
 
Mwhite530 said:
Oh I see what you mean now. Ive heard people talk about test bases a lot and were surprised when they found out that I ran lgd without one and felt fine. I’m 19, so maybe I just have really high test already? Or am I misunderstanding how the whole test base thing works?
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No your correct
SARMs are suppose to be less suppressive than AAS
And I guess lots of people run them and are just fine.
So you might be fine also.
PCT is what will put you back to normal.
But if you ran a test base you would have a more successful cycle.
As long as you have your Clomid ready you should be just fine.
Test base will yield a better cycle.....almost for Sure.
Oh and your too dam young to use PED
Stick to whole milk and glutamine?
 
Cgkone said:
No your correct
SARMs are suppose to be less suppressive than AAS
And I guess lots of people run them and are just fine.
So you might be fine also.
PCT is what will put you back to normal.
But if you ran a test base you would have a more successful cycle.
As long as you have your Clomid ready you should be just fine.
Test base will yield a better cycle.....almost for Sure.
Oh and your too dam young to use PED
Stick to whole milk and glutamine
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Lol alright broski thanks a bunch for the help!
 
Cgkone said:
I run S4 twice now but never without a test bass so I'm not sure what it feels like by itself. What I do know is that it works really good
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How bad really are the sides, specifically the vision sides on s4? Thinking of braiding using 200mg Test with 50mg s4 and 20mg ostarine.

Ever had any blood done when using warms bro? Looking for low dose test with something before I go hard in March...
 
Stack em. Duh
 
Can you take your s4 all at once or do you have to space the dosing out throughout the day due to the short half life?
 
YoungThor said:
Can you take your s4 all at once or do you have to space the dosing out throughout the day due to the short half life?
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Splitting should help with the vision sides! They’re not that bad at all except blind af at night and yellowish vision during sunny days.
 
Mathb33 said:
Splitting should help with the vision sides! They’re not that bad at all except blind af at night and yellowish vision during sunny days.
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I’m afraid to have terrible night blindness. I live in one of the most populated, most dangerous cities in the US, and being unable to see at night sounds very dangerous. At least right now it’s super cold out and criminal activity and acts of violence pretty much stop during the winter. But I would never want to be totally night blind in this city during summertime. And driving at night while on S4 sounds risky as f*ck too. The night blindness is the only thing that’s making question whether I should run this compound. Is it that bad at 50mg a day?
 
YoungThor said:
I’m afraid to have terrible night blindness. I live in one of the most populated, most dangerous cities in the US, and being unable to see at night sounds very dangerous. At least right now it’s super cold out and criminal activity and acts of violence pretty much stop during the winter. But I would never want to be totally night blind in this city during summertime. And driving at night while on S4 sounds risky as f*ck too. The night blindness is the only thing that’s making question whether I should run this compound. Is it that bad at 50mg a day?
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I didn't notice any of that but I never get the sides so I shouldn't speak about them too much. What city you live in? I don't think you get blind and I don't think it's permanent a whole evening. Isn't it just a quick second while switching from bright to darkness?
 
YoungThor said:
I’m afraid to have terrible night blindness. I live in one of the most populated, most dangerous cities in the US, and being unable to see at night sounds very dangerous. At least right now it’s super cold out and criminal activity and acts of violence pretty much stop during the winter. But I would never want to be totally night blind in this city during summertime. And driving at night while on S4 sounds risky as f*ck too. The night blindness is the only thing that’s making question whether I should run this compound. Is it that bad at 50mg a day?
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At 50mgs it was minimal the two times I used it, the night thing is more about adapting to the darkness it just takes longer for your eyes. Same thing from sunny day/going inside. It gets harder in the 100mgs area
 
Mathb33 said:
At 50mgs it was minimal the two times I used it, the night thing is more about adapting to the darkness it just takes longer for your eyes. Same thing from sunny day/going inside. It gets harder in the 100mgs area
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So it’s not like holding your hands over your eyes and walking along outsides, there is some degree of visibility?


How you rate the effects and do you recommend and why?

Thanks bro
 
Its about adjusting from light to darkness or darkness to light.. people are exagerating the vision sides.. except if you go 100mg + then yes it could get crazy.. for exemple let’s say you just walked 30 mins outside on a sunny day then yes when you’ll get inside everything will be very dark for a couple mins then it goes back to normal... and clear colors will appear yellowish. Nothing crazy imo. Would I recommend it? Sure it’s great during a cut to hold onto muscles in a big calories deficit, has great potential all around basically. It’s like a weak anavar we could say!.... the only thing is I personally think you gotta run it pretty high to see decent results(just my opinion)
 
Mathb33 said:
Its about adjusting from light to darkness or darkness to light.. people are exagerating the vision sides.. except if you go 100mg + then yes it could get crazy.. for exemple let’s say you just walked 30 mins outside on a sunny day then yes when you’ll get inside everything will be very dark for a couple mins then it goes back to normal... and clear colors will appear yellowish. Nothing crazy imo. Would I recommend it? Sure it’s great during a cut to hold onto muscles in a big calories deficit, has great potential all around basically. It’s like a weak anavar we could say!.... the only thing is I personally think you gotta run it pretty high to see decent results(just my opinion)
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How would you recommend a S4 first time user to dose? Taper up? Staring dose? Etc

Thanks bro
 
Personally first time i went straight to 50 daily but kept it that way whole cycle. I always dose it AM / PM and not at once
 
Mathb33 said:
Personally first time i went straight to 50 daily but kept it that way whole cycle. I always dose it AM / PM and not at once
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So you think go in at 50mg? I was guna run 25mg for 3 days or so then 50mg rest of week? Have you tried 5 on 2 off method bro?
 
YoungThor said:
I’m afraid to have terrible night blindness. I live in one of the most populated, most dangerous cities in the US, and being unable to see at night sounds very dangerous. At least right now it’s super cold out and criminal activity and acts of violence pretty much stop during the winter. But I would never want to be totally night blind in this city during summertime. And driving at night while on S4 sounds risky as f*ck too. The night blindness is the only thing that’s making question whether I should run this compound. Is it that bad at 50mg a day?
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You need to split the dose the half life is short with s4
 
AndroRage said:
So you think go in at 50mg? I was guna run 25mg for 3 days or so then 50mg rest of week? Have you tried 5 on 2 off method bro?
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I don’t recommend 5/2 unless you absolutely need to... and yeah you can go 25mgs first couple days and up to 50. Not a bad idea
 
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