Most Osta You’ve Taken

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Just curious how high anyone has taken ostarine, and for what duration. Results, sides?

Never heard of anyone going over 40mg/day really. Doesn’t do much - a very unimpressive compound in my opinion, nevermind how often it’s adulterated. Still, can’t help but wonder if larger doses (60-100mg) would offer any more significant result.

Discuss.
 
Only 25mgs and for a cut on first cycle. I do however now take 10mgs with every cycle I do. Not for any enhancement to the cycle, simply because I notice a huge difference in my ability to lift without my injuries bothering me. As soon as I drop it, as I have done a couple of times when I ran out mid cycle, a few days later my injuries play up again. I know everyone bashes osta as a weak ass, useless compound, but for the reasons I take it, it’s great. Tony Huge from enhanced athlete seems to like mega dosing SARMs as I remember though
 
66mg. Almost as strong as stacking LGD at 24mg with osta at 44mg. LGD holds nitrogen much much better. However, the stack of both blows away either alone, and actually blew away everything I tried this year including dmz and msten as far as effects. Sure they start to work faster, but they don’t hold that pump the way that specific sarm stack can. For whatever reason.
 
Vikingbro said:
Only 25mgs and for a cut on first cycle. I do however now take 10mgs with every cycle I do. Not for any enhancement to the cycle, simply because I notice a huge difference in my ability to lift without my injuries bothering me. As soon as I drop it, as I have done a couple of times when I ran out mid cycle, a few days later my injuries play up again. I know everyone bashes osta as a weak ass, useless compound, but for the reasons I take it, it’s great. Tony Huge from enhanced athlete seems to like mega dosing SARMs as I remember though
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Very interesting; 10mg is certainly a cheap enough investment if you are seeing significant healing/joint recovery.

Old Witch said:
66mg. Almost as strong as stacking LGD at 24mg with osta at 44mg. LGD holds nitrogen much much better. However, the stack of both blows away either alone, and actually blew away everything I tried this year including dmz and msten as far as effects. Sure they start to work faster, but they don’t hold that pump the way that specific sarm stack can. For whatever reason.
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Do you notice significantly increased strength on this combo the way DMZ+Sten would offer, or just better pumps and lean mass gain? I would assume the SARMs would lack sufficient androgenic qualities to fire up the nervous system the way true androgens would.
 
Hyde said:
Very interesting; 10mg is certainly a cheap enough investment if you are seeing significant healing/joint recovery.



Do you notice significantly increased strength on this combo the way DMZ+Sten would offer, or just better pumps and lean mass gain? I would assume the SARMs would lack sufficient androgenic qualities to fire up the nervous system the way true androgens would.
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Strength increase is both not as much and not as rapid. However tissue accrual and hardness are superior. With those two methyls, the size is seriously all water, couldn’t gain any new ground. Sarms don’t cause that water gain but do actually increase tissue. Once they are fully “kicked in” after about 4 weeks, the CNS fires pretty hard, mind and muscle connection is strong. After about 48 hours from stopping usage the hardness is gone, strength is down somewhat, m/m connection is not as strong.

I think they’re as androgenic in the skeletal muscle tissue as a steroid. They’re selective, remember, so they could be ten times more androgenic than tren but you’d never know because they physically cannot bind to any tissue which would evidence such a thing.

I am now fully confident in the power of sarms, and as an alternative to a test-only cycle or the test stacked with whatever cycle, stacking LGD/osta at 24+/44+ will absolutely give similar effects/results and can be run a similar length of time. So you can stack em with test, or without, depending on what you want.

But they don’t kick in for a few weeks, so an oral steroid to kickstart would still be appropriate. They’re also not going to fully shut you down, which is where most of the sides come from. It’s displacing the testosterone still available and making it more effective as a result. That’s why they also always seem to say they stop working if you get too suppressed or fully shut down.

We don’t have enough data to know fully how they work to build muscle, just that they do for sure.

Also, I wouldn’t be too worried about tainted sarms. If they’re tainted it’s just either nothing, or ATD and nolva in there, you won’t notice any effects, no gains, no nothing. So far as can be shown by the only study done on the subject, nobody has put anything but other sarms or atd/nolva into sarms.
 
Hyde said:
Just curious how high anyone has taken ostarine, and for what duration. Results, sides?

Never heard of anyone going over 40mg/day really. Doesn’t do much - a very unimpressive compound in my opinion, nevermind how often it’s adulterated. Still, can’t help but wonder if larger doses (60-100mg) would offer any more significant result.

Discuss.
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Tony huge interviewed a girl taking 75mg a day. She barely looked like she lifts
 
They say anything over 20mg a day is the point of diminished returns. From a side to benefit ratio. In other words you dont see much more at 40 or more than you would from 20... Except exaserbated sides.
 
Godstrength said:
They say anything over 20mg a day is the point of diminished returns. From a side to benefit ratio. In other words you dont see much more at 40 or more than you would from 20... Except exaserbated sides.
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In my experience that is absolutely the furthest thing from the truth. They’re absolutely worthless in low doses. 20mg lgd 40mg osta is the minimum IMO.
 
I dont think Osta is useful enough to consider anything over 25mg but to be fair, 40mg i would assume is the max effective dose.

So many better options out there in my humble opinion.
 
Davy25 said:
I dont think Osta is useful enough to consider anything over 25mg but to be fair, 40mg i would assume is the max effective dose.

So many better options out there in my humble opinion.
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I’d say 40mg is when it starts to work. 66mg is where it actually could shine by itself. Best case though is stacking lgd and osta.
 
Guys take up to 150mg s4 and rave that it’s awesome but nobody will attempt that with ostarine. They’re the same basic compound, one minor difference. Yes, I understand that changes everything, however it doesn’t seem to be in any literature that either one is more toxic than the other, if anything s4 is the worse one with its vision impairment side effect.
 
Smont said:
Tony huge interviewed a girl taking 75mg a day. She barely looked like she lifts
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And I bet she was taking Tony’s brand too. EA stuff is underdosed as hell. It has to be. He said he took a gram of dnp per day at one point. If that was real he’d be dead for sure.
 
Old Witch said:
And I bet she was taking Tony’s brand too. EA stuff is underdosed as hell. It has to be. He said he took a gram of dnp per day at one point. If that was real he’d be dead for sure.
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Dont remeber but think he said he did 1 time for 1day.
 
Thats a bit different fron a gram a day. And by the way im not a fan of him. Think hes a shill pushing sales
 
I've went from 15mg to 20mg to 25mg to 30mg and seen similar effects throughout tbh. Better recovery, none of the usual joint aches after heavy lifting, slightly improved strength, no usual muscle loss on a defecit. I've also yet to experience any sides or symptoms of suppression and I've only got a couple days left of my bottle.
 
Old Witch said:
Strength increase is both not as much and not as rapid. However tissue accrual and hardness are superior. With those two methyls, the size is seriously all water, couldn’t gain any new ground. Sarms don’t cause that water gain but do actually increase tissue. Once they are fully “kicked in” after about 4 weeks, the CNS fires pretty hard, mind and muscle connection is strong. After about 48 hours from stopping usage the hardness is gone, strength is down somewhat, m/m connection is not as strong.

I think they’re as androgenic in the skeletal muscle tissue as a steroid. They’re selective, remember, so they could be ten times more androgenic than tren but you’d never know because they physically cannot bind to any tissue which would evidence such a thing.

I am now fully confident in the power of sarms, and as an alternative to a test-only cycle or the test stacked with whatever cycle, stacking LGD/osta at 24+/44+ will absolutely give similar effects/results and can be run a similar length of time. So you can stack em with test, or without, depending on what you want.

But they don’t kick in for a few weeks, so an oral steroid to kickstart would still be appropriate. They’re also not going to fully shut you down, which is where most of the sides come from. It’s displacing the testosterone still available and making it more effective as a result. That’s why they also always seem to say they stop working if you get too suppressed or fully shut down.

We don’t have enough data to know fully how they work to build muscle, just that they do for sure.

Also, I wouldn’t be too worried about tainted sarms. If they’re tainted it’s just either nothing, or ATD and nolva in there, you won’t notice any effects, no gains, no nothing. So far as can be shown by the only study done on the subject, nobody has put anything but other sarms or atd/nolva into sarms.
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So with the lag time for SARMs to kick in which is typically 3-4 weeks, I could do a month of Msten and start the LGD at the same time. Once the Msten is complete, carry on with the LGD. The LGD should be kicking in nicely and voila, gains. Good idea?
 
Yeah, for the cost I think classic AAS and designers pretty much crap on SARMs. I mean, 40mg Sdrol for 4wks is cheap as fuk, a hell of alot cheaper than paying for a 50mg+ daily dose of ostarine or LGD. And even then, when I ran 45mg of ostarine, theres no fukn way it even approaches traditional anabolics. No way.

I get it, we get bored of discussing the same old trest/dbol/adrol/mtren etc etc. We are curious and want to experiment and find something new and exciting. But in my experience, no oral yet invented beats the classics. And if you have to stack 50mg+ of ostarine and LGD to even get close, why bother? The cost makes no cents to me, and your lipids toasted.
 
Old Witch said:
In my experience that is absolutely the furthest thing from the truth. They’re absolutely worthless in low doses. 20mg lgd 40mg osta is the minimum IMO.
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You may be right... I tried osta once at 20mg it gave me blurry vision. To be fair I would compare it to anavar light in effects but for the same price I could just buy real anavar.

I think sarms are garbage. The sides arent worth the subtle gains. And so little is known about how they actually affect the body. At least w aas I know what I'm getting (and what sides to expect) and its often cheaper.
 
Nac said:
Yeah, for the cost I think classic AAS and designers pretty much crap on SARMs. I mean, 40mg Sdrol for 4wks is cheap as fuk, a hell of alot cheaper than paying for a 50mg+ daily dose of ostarine or LGD. And even then, when I ran 45mg of ostarine, theres no fukn way it even approaches traditional anabolics. No way.

I get it, we get bored of discussing the same old trest/dbol/adrol/mtren etc etc. We are curious and want to experiment and find something new and exciting. But in my experience, no oral yet invented beats the classics. And if you have to stack 50mg+ of ostarine and LGD to even get close, why bother? The cost makes no cents to me, and your lipids toasted.
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Well, cost isn’t a factor to me as I can get the raws fairly cheaply. I wouldn’t say it approaches most traditional anabolics, I’d say it approaches around the beginner dose of some certain traditional injectable anabolics. And even some orals (anavar for sure at least, possibly better) At least for me. Maybe not in how fast it kicks in, but once it does those actual tissue gains were better, coming on daily in fact quite nicely. Really bringing back the **** I’ve lost over the years. Too bad I had to stop. I was going to ride that out long and see.


Really, man, the fact that I’m suddenly raving about this should have some bells ringing for anyone who has read my posts as much as you have hahaha. This completely changes my idea of the power of sarms. I took less, and solo compounds earlier this year, they worked somewhat I guess but it wasn’t really anything to give two ****s about. This is completely different. Night and day difference. And, the non raw products I’m using, the UP stuff, it would be 150 for a 12 week cycle at my doses. For raw it’s around 40 a gram for lgd and 13 a gram for osta as far as I can find from anywhere I trust. Thats cheap enough to be worthwhile and they’re legal to possess. I highly recommend giving them a chance like this. I also recommend using cardarine and using a soluble fiber supplement. It does mess with lipids, those will fix that. Or at least my blood panel from right before I came off suggests they do. Lipids ok after 6-7 weeks.
 
Godstrength said:
You may be right... I tried osta once at 20mg it gave me blurry vision. To be fair I would compare it to anavar light in effects but for the same price I could just buy real anavar.

I think sarms are garbage. The sides arent worth the subtle gains. And so little is known about how they actually affect the body. At least w aas I know what I'm getting (and what sides to expect) and its often cheaper.
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I’m telling you there’s nothing subtle about it once you hit those doses.
 
Old Witch said:
I’m telling you there’s nothing subtle about it once you hit those doses.
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Yeah there just not for me. I'll stick to aas a better option for me personally. Too many weird unknown factors with this stuff for me. And results seem to be extremely hit or miss.
 
Godstrength said:
Yeah there just not for me. I'll stick to aas a better option for me personally. Too many weird unknown factors with this stuff for me. And results seem to be extremely hit or miss.
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I’d stack em, personally. Maybe instead of a usual injectable compound you might use, add in lgd and osta high dose, something like that. I think based on what I can read about it this should still accelerate tissue accrual beyond that of a simple aas stack. Mainly by way of extending cell life indefinitely.

It’s something I’ll be doing for sure, and exploiting that mechanism of action.
 
My next cycle will be 30-40mg lgd, 40mg stenabolic, 50 mg ostarine. Going to use cycle support and maybe 10mg nolva half way through and continue into PCT obviously. Gonna try for cut/recomp

I got access to cheap/good quality Raws too
 
Sparta12 said:
My next cycle will be 30-40mg lgd, 40mg stenabolic, 50 mg ostarine. Going to use cycle support and maybe 10mg nolva half way through and continue into PCT obviously. Gonna try for cut/recomp

I got access to cheap/good quality Raws too
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Whoa! Just make sure that sr9009 is td or IM or something, it’s not orally bio available. And split the dose throughout the day, because its half life is super short, just a few hours.
 
Every oral I’ve ever used trashes my lipids so I basically expect it on cycle.

Like what Old Witch was saying, the price of raw ostarine powder shipped in from China is almost negligible - and not scheduled.

Just wondering what kind of effects and sides would be present at 100mg. People say S4 is great at 100, aside from the vision sides (which make it a no-go in my book). I am not sold on the safety of the compound overall though, with no long term research done on it.
 
Hyde said:
Every oral I’ve ever used trashes my lipids so I basically expect it on cycle.

Like what Old Witch was saying, the price of raw ostarine powder shipped in from China is almost negligible - and not scheduled.

Just wondering what kind of effects and sides would be present at 100mg. People say S4 is great at 100, aside from the vision sides (which make it a no-go in my book). I am not sold on the safety of the compound overall though, with no long term research done on it.
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Well, technically those mice and rat studies are long term because they lasted their entire lifespan as they were dissected afterward...

Seriously though, months for a rat is years for you.
 
Osta at 25mg was nice. It gave me really hard muscle, more so then var. In general I really liked how I looked on it.

Regarding shuttdown: sarms do shuttdown, it's a bit misleading to say that they don't. Five weeks in on 25mg osta, my LH was 3.0 but my TT was like zero. I then did a test: one week of pct withouth a serm and my TT was already half way to normal. So recovery on ostarine is definetly a breeze, at least on short runs.

The bad thing was that my liver enzymes were 7x over upper range and that's why I quit the cycle at the end of 5 weeks... was really not happy about that.
 
Jinsun said:
Osta at 25mg was nice. It gave me really hard muscle, more so then var. In general I really liked how I looked on it.

Regarding shuttdown: sarms do shuttdown, it's a bit misleading to say that they don't. Five weeks in on 25mg osta, my LH was 3.0 but my TT was like zero. I then did a test: one week of pct withouth a serm and my TT was already half way to normal. So recovery on ostarine is definetly a breeze, at least on short runs.

The bad thing was that my liver enzymes were 7x over upper range and that's why I quit the cycle at the end of 5 weeks... was really not happy about that.
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Dang man that’s surprising to me. A big part of me questions whether there might have been something in that. Six ish weeks in on lgd osta 24/44 and my numbers barely moved. In fact slightly better than the last bloods I took where my lipids were tanked after dmz. I think cardarine helped there to restore regular lipid balance, because I started taking that again right after I finished the dmz and got bloods.
 
Had I expected this sort of Spanish Inquisition, I would have had them print them out. They just show me on their desktop computer and unless I have a pct project to deal with I just leave it at that.


I guess in light of your experience I’d like to modify my synopsis of lgd and osta, to equate them at the higher doses more to something like 1-AD. The profile of sides are almost identical (except for apparent blurred vision reports on osta) and basically the only major benefit is they are working on somewhat novel pathways and remove the need to pin without limiting time on to only a month for most. You and a few others have not been lucky but myself and others have. So blood work on cycle is an absolute necessity and that will tell you how long to run it for. I’d say hope for 12 weeks but if you have to bail, you have to bail. My opinion on how much to run hasn’t changed.
 
Yeah, some have elevated enzymes, some don't or most don't. In the study done on osta, some had elevated enzymes on 3mg ed. Those that had were certainly not in the majority, but nonetheless, they did have elevated enzymes. One participant actually had alt 4x above range, on 3mg, and had to be excluded from the study. So it's quite possible to have liver stress on osta, it's just less common. That's why it's important, as you pointed out, to do bloods once or twice on a long cycle.

Run what ever you want, I am not persuading you in any way to do one thing or another. Just sharing my experience on osta, seeing as this thread is about osta. Cheers
 
Old Witch said:
Had I expected this sort of Spanish Inquisition, I would have had them print them out. They just show me on their desktop computer and unless I have a pct project to deal with I just leave it at that.


I guess in light of your experience I’d like to modify my synopsis of lgd and osta, to equate them at the higher doses more to something like 1-AD. The profile of sides are almost identical (except for apparent blurred vision reports on osta) and basically the only major benefit is they are working on somewhat novel pathways and remove the need to pin without limiting time on to only a month for most. You and a few others have not been lucky but myself and others have. So blood work on cycle is an absolute necessity and that will tell you how long to run it for. I’d say hope for 12 weeks but if you have to bail, you have to bail. My opinion on how much to run hasn’t changed.
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Whether or not I ever run anything like this, you managed to get my attention with a SARMs thread.
That's quite an accomplishment.
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
 
Jinsun said:
Yeah, some have elevated enzymes, some don't or most don't. In the study done on osta, some had elevated enzymes on 3mg ed. Those that had were certainly not in the majority, but nonetheless, they did have elevated enzymes. One participant actually had alt 4x above range, on 3mg, and had to be excluded from the study. So it's quite possible to have liver stress on osta, it's just less common. That's why it's important, as you pointed out, to do bloods once or twice on a long cycle.

Run what ever you want, I am not persuading you in any way to do one thing or another. Just sharing my experience on osta, seeing as this thread is about osta. Cheers
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I was hoping you’d chime in on this, as I knew you had had a bad experience liver-wise and had looked into some studies.

Seems like anyone mega-dosing Ostarine would be wise to pull bloods a month in and make sure things are still acceptable for them at high doses.

Old Witch using 66mg is the highest I’ve heard, but nobody else even going over 40.
 
Hyde said:
Old Witch using 66mg is the highest I’ve heard, but nobody else even going over 40.
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Yeah, with that dose I would also most certainly recommend bloods :) It's a totally different "load" with such a dose and it might have "interesting" effects bc of it ...
 
Renew1 said:
Whether or not I ever run anything like this, you managed to get my attention with a SARMs thread.
That's quite an accomplishment.
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
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Never once thought maybe we just need to up the dose?? Lol
 
Hyde said:
Never once thought maybe we just need to up the dose?? Lol
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LOL. Who knows, right?
Of course, if you do... Now it would dramatically increase risk of problems.
It is definitely unexpected (to me) .... The results, I mean.

I'll be watching this approach, to see how things go, longer term.
 
Renew1 said:
LOL. Who knows, right?
Of course, if you do... Now it would dramatically increase risk of problems.
It is definitely unexpected (to me) .... The results, I mean.

I'll be watching this approach, to see how things go, longer term.
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Oh I don’t think I’ll be trying it any time soon honestly, SARMS are kind of a waste for a strength athlete. Good for adding some keepable lean mass, but being the furthest thing from androgenic they don’t upregulate the nervous system appreciably. Better off with high doses of epiandro probably.
 
Hyde said:
Oh I don’t think I’ll be trying it any time soon honestly, SARMS are kind of a waste for a strength athlete. Good for adding some keepable lean mass, but being the furthest thing from androgenic they don’t upregulate the nervous system appreciably. Better off with high doses of epiandro probably.
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Not too sure about that, to be honest.

Also, about liver values, most of these sarms come dissolved in alcohol. That will play a huge role in how well tolerated they are.

I would avoid liquid preparations and instead opt for raw powder or reputable tabs/caps then asses toxicity.
 
Old Witch said:
Not too sure about that, to be honest.

Also, about liver values, most of these sarms come dissolved in alcohol. That will play a huge role in how well tolerated they are.

I would avoid liquid preparations and instead opt for raw powder or reputable tabs/caps then asses toxicity.
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Definitely agree on the powder approach (and you’d probably need to go with raw powders to keep 60+mg affordable for 8-12weeks anyway).

My limited personal experience with SARMs indicates only very mild performance enhancement. BUT I have only ever used small doses, so that could go out the window with megadoses.
 
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