I think you would need to take 100mg a day of pmag to equal 45mg of cyno. Think pmag is a prohormone like hdrol that why it would require a higher dose. Cyno is a designer steriod and doesnt require conversion. Its all about how much methylation it requires for the same result and imo would be less with cyno. Cyno is like a dyer but weaker sd maybe more comparable to dimethzine.