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YOO WTF!?!?!?

Dthcore

Dthcore

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I’ve been on rolax for 5 months now for gyno reversal. Had some bloods done sat and these are my results.

What the fawk is up with my estrogen!?!
I’m definitely higher in body fat but YOOOOOO!?!?

I just pinned test last night too. 1mg or arimidex to go with it. I literally just got my bloods.



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Are you on birth control?
 
I know estro can accumulate with nolva if you don’t take an ai. And essentially get a rebound to my understanding.

Is the same possible for Rolax maybe?
 
Dthcore said:
If my rolax is birth control then yes. Lmfaoo
Bro what the fawk is going on!?!?
I’m about to take all my aromasin to kill this ****!!! (Not srs but want to)
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Lol...that's pretty nuts. Too bad you dont have some letro on hand
 
Dthcore said:
If my rolax is birth control then yes. Lmfaoo
Bro what the fawk is going on!?!?
I’m about to take all my aromasin to kill this ****!!! (Not srs but want to)
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If you on Ralox, then this could be normal. Ralox is tapping most of your receptors and estrogen is "free floating" in your blood.
 
If you take a serm, the "free floating" estrogen has nowhere to "dock". No need to lower it, unless you are at the end of PCT -and awhile after PCT, when rebound is to expect -or right before getting off Ralox.

I see no problem here at all. You could take an AI -but I doubt you will feel something, unless you take too much. Then joints may start aching and becoming dry, also ED could occur. Adex at 0.5mg eod is prudent.
 
Wow that's high. I would lower that asap. It's true that SERMs prevent the estrogen from binding but they do that selectively. So not at all tissues. And that is why it's still better to have normal e2 even if on a serm. And 0.5 eod is imo not going to be enough for 200 e2 haha Also I would get a suicide Ai, this will make things a lot easier once you get off of the serm.

I got rebound gyno from nolva, not long ago, so yes, serms can do that! Why is your FSH suppressed though? That is what would worry me not e2 actually...
 
Jinsun said:
Wow that's high. I would lower that asap. It's true that SERMs prevent the estrogen from binding but they do that selectively. So not at all tissues. And that is why it's still better to have normal e2 even if on a serm. And 0.5 eod is imo not going to be enough for 200 e2 haha Also I would get a suicide Ai, this will make things a lot easier once you get off of the serm.

I got rebound gyno from nolva, not long ago, so yes, serms can do that! Why is your FSH suppressed though? That is what would worry me not e2 actually...
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Isn’t arimidex a suicide ai? I have some of that. And about fhs, I have no idea man. :(
 
Dthcore said:
Isn’t arimidex a suicide ai? I have some of that. And about fhs, I have no idea man. :(
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Nop, dex is a type 2 Ai, not type 1.

FSH makes the testes produce sperm withouth FSH you are infertile atm probably. But don't quote me on that. Either way seeing as LH is high is why it's strange to me. Didn't know the pituitary could produce LH bit at the same time no FSH.

This is a problem and I would strongly not advise you to go on cycle untill you get this checked. You could endup beeing infertile for life or maybe the fact that FSH is shuttdown also means that LH will soon stop and then you'll need TRT for life.

Surprised nobody else caught this.
 
Jinsun said:
Nop, dex is a type 2 Ai, not type 1.

FSH makes the testes produce sperm withouth FSH you are infertile atm probably. But don't quote me on that. Either way seeing as LH is high is why it's strange to me. Didn't know the pituitary could produce LH bit at the same time no FSH.

This is a problem and I would strongly not advise you to go on cycle untill you get this checked. You could endup beeing infertile for life or maybe the fact that FSH is shuttdown also means that LH will soon stop and then you'll need TRT for life.

Surprised nobody else caught this.
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Damn wtf.... I already started it....
could the rolax effect my FSH in any way?
It would be nuts if I was infertile, but at this point I’m prob too late if I am man.

I’ll order letro ASAP.
 
Dthcore said:
And what one is responsible for fertility? LH?
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Not sure what's unclear. Read my post again.

No, ralox can't cause this. At least not to my knowledge.

Look man, read up a bit, take this a bit more seriously. Saying this for your own good. Shuttdown FSH is probably a sign of pituitary damage and I wouldn't joke arround with that. Unless you don't mind beeing on trt.
 
Jinsun said:
Not sure what's unclear. Read my post again.

No, ralox can't cause this. At least not to my knowledge.

Look man, read up a bit, take this a bit more seriously. Saying this for your own good. Shuttdown FSH is probably a sign of pituitary damage and I wouldn't joke arround with that. Unless you don't mind beeing on trt.
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I just re read it. Sorry about that. Guess I was kind of shocked so made me forget or lose focus.

Well it looks like I’m heading there right? More than likely inevitable?
 
Dthcore said:
I just re read it. Sorry about that. Guess I was kind of shocked so made me forget or lose focus.

Well it looks like I’m heading there right? More than likely inevitable?
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Np.

Well I'm not an endocrinologist but the signs are pointing towards trt yes. It could also be some other pituitary disease, like a tumor or something. But seeing as you are doing aas it's most likely bc of this...
 
Jinsun said:
Np.

Well I'm not an endocrinologist but the signs are pointing towards trt yes. It could also be some other pituitary disease, like a tumor or something. But seeing as you are doing aas it's most likely bc of this...
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This is my Pre AAS blood work. BUT I have taken AAS in the past and that could be why it’s taken damaged.

Any way my estro can be effecting it?
 
Dthcore said:
This is my Pre AAS blood work. BUT I have taken AAS in the past and that could be why it’s taken damaged.

Any way my estro can be effecting it?
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What do you mean, arent this bloods from now?
No idea about estro. Anything is possible I guess but I doubt it.
 
Jinsun said:
What do you mean, arent this bloods from now?
No idea about estro. Anything is possible I guess but I doubt it.
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Like I took these a week before starting the cycle. I started the cycle on Sunday.
12/01/2019

Check this out! I think it’s my incredibly high estro causing FSH to fall!!



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Dthcore said:
What other one is a type 1 I guess is my question. Tried looking it up with no luck.
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Exemestane, ATD, 6-Oxo, 6-Bromo... All suicide AI. Personally I think exemestane works best, haven't tried ATD but I used a lot of 6-oxo back in the day.
 
Old Witch said:
Exemestane, ATD, 6-Oxo, 6-Bromo... All suicide AI. Personally I think exemestane works best, haven't tried ATD but I used a lot of 6-oxo back in the day.
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I have some from purerawz. Any suggestion on dose since estro is so high? 12mg a day? 24?
 
Dthcore said:
Thank you so much!!! Will do!! Wasn’t sure of it’s capacity to lower estro.
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About what are we talking about here? Aromasin? If so, you need a lot more then 25mg ed for two days. A lot more lol. We are talking about e2 levels in the 200 range. I would take like 50mg ed for a week, then drop down to 25mg for a week, then 12.5 ed for a week and seeing as you are on cycle might as well stay at 12.5mg ed. Don't know what and how much you are taking. Also check bloods again and then addjust.
 
Jinsun said:
About what are we talking about here? Aromasin? If so, you need a lot more then 25mg ed for two days. A lot more lol. We are talking about e2 levels in the 200 range. I would take like 50mg ed for a week, then drop down to 25mg for a week, then 12.5 ed for a week and seeing as you are on cycle might as well stay at 12.5mg ed. Don't know what and how much you are taking. Also check bloods again and then addjust.
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I did something similar to this my last run when I let estro get out of control. 25mg am and PM for roughly a week and then once a day for a few and started spreading it out more. Even 25mg a day is going to take a while before those values get within range again
 
Jinsun said:
About what are we talking about here? Aromasin? If so, you need a lot more then 25mg ed for two days. A lot more lol. We are talking about e2 levels in the 200 range. I would take like 50mg ed for a week, then drop down to 25mg for a week, then 12.5 ed for a week and seeing as you are on cycle might as well stay at 12.5mg ed. Don't know what and how much you are taking. Also check bloods again and then addjust.
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You are right, he has to check for adjustments. I would go lower, like I said. My reasoning is: If he already crashed his e2 -too late for adjustments.
 
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