Test/eq log

Mwhite530

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Hey everyone.

This is my first real anabolic cycle. I’ve ran sarms and ph’s in the past but I decided it was time to step it up a little. I’m running 300 test and 600 eq for 16 weeks, kickstarting with yk-11, and possibly finishing it off with some winstrol.

Stats:
20y/o
Weight: 250
Height:6’3
Working out 5 times per week doing push pull legs upper lower
Calories will fluctuate as my coach decides so I’ll keep you all updated on that as it happens.

Pct will be :
nolva 60 first two days and then 40/40/40/20
Clomid 100 first two days then 50/50/50/25
Hcg 500iu per week

Last night was my first injection into the left glute and it was smooth and I have no pain the next day. Looking forward to how this cycle pans out.
 
That's a very cavalier first pin cycle, yet responsible. I like it.

What are your goals with this cycle?
 
Old Witch said:
That's a very cavalier first pin cycle, yet responsible. I like it.

What are your goals with this cycle?
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I’m trying to bulk up a little and put on some more size as I’m looking to compete in classic physique some day. I’m also really interested in how all these compounds work with the body so it’s kinda an experiment too.
 
Mwhite530 said:
So does nobody have any thoughts on adding the ph to the front of the cycle vs keeping the yk11?
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What ester test are you running? If it’s cyp or enth (I kind of assume it is) you could run something like Dbol or tbol to kickstart. If you’re running prop there is no real need for the oral steroid kickstart. Not really a sarm guy myself so I have no opinion on yk-11 versus anything else. Personally I feel better on real gear vs most PH I have run... but I’ve never run a kickstart with a PH, only solo, so perhaps a test base would change my opinion.

Leave the winstrol/stanzolol out until you’re ready for a show. Some people tolerate it; however, I ran it about a year ago just for ****s and grins (not contest prep) thinking I’d harden up and get some strength out of it. 3 weeks in my elbow joints felt like a mortar and pestle grinding into each other. My left elbow still hurts a year later when I do skull crushers if I don’t warm my elbow up first. I attribute this 100% to the Stanzolol. It works wonders and is probably a neccissary addition to most people’s pre contest cycle... but not worth it, imo, to run outside of a few weeks prior to stepping onstage.

Otherwise good looking cycle, I would run my test a little higher, but that’s really just an opinion sort of thing, I don’t see any reason you’d have issues at 300/wk especially if this is your first go.

I’m running dhb and eq right now, loving it so far. Look forward to seeing your results.
 
GMG760 said:
What ester test are you running? If it’s cyp or enth (I kind of assume it is) you could run something like Dbol or tbol to kickstart. If you’re running prop there is no real need for the oral steroid kickstart. Not really a sarm guy myself so I have no opinion on yk-11 versus anything else. Personally I feel better on real gear vs most PH I have run... but I’ve never run a kickstart with a PH, only solo, so perhaps a test base would change my opinion.

Leave the winstrol/stanzolol out until you’re ready for a show. Some people tolerate it; however, I ran it about a year ago just for ****s and grins (not contest prep) thinking I’d harden up and get some strength out of it. 3 weeks in my elbow joints felt like a mortar and pestle grinding into each other. My left elbow still hurts a year later when I do skull crushers if I don’t warm my elbow up first. I attribute this 100% to the Stanzolol. It works wonders and is probably a neccissary addition to most people’s pre contest cycle... but not worth it, imo, to run outside of a few weeks prior to stepping onstage.

Otherwise good looking cycle, I would run my test a little higher, but that’s really just an opinion sort of thing, I don’t see any reason you’d have issues at 300/wk especially if this is your first go.

I’m running dhb and eq right now, loving it so far. Look forward to seeing your results.
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I’m using test e. And I thought about dbol but the bloating from it really is what scares me away. Tbol definitely was a thought I just don’t know how much it costs and the only reason I considered a ph was because it’s Black Friday so they’re half off lmao but I’ll probably stick to the yk as I’ve had good results in the past from it and I already have plenty. And yeah I’ve heard that about winstrol but it’s free so I’ll take it for a future cycle probably.
 
GMG760 said:
What ester test are you running? If it’s cyp or enth (I kind of assume it is) you could run something like Dbol or tbol to kickstart. If you’re running prop there is no real need for the oral steroid kickstart. Not really a sarm guy myself so I have no opinion on yk-11 versus anything else. Personally I feel better on real gear vs most PH I have run... but I’ve never run a kickstart with a PH, only solo, so perhaps a test base would change my opinion.

Leave the winstrol/stanzolol out until you’re ready for a show. Some people tolerate it; however, I ran it about a year ago just for ****s and grins (not contest prep) thinking I’d harden up and get some strength out of it. 3 weeks in my elbow joints felt like a mortar and pestle grinding into each other. My left elbow still hurts a year later when I do skull crushers if I don’t warm my elbow up first. I attribute this 100% to the Stanzolol. It works wonders and is probably a neccissary addition to most people’s pre contest cycle... but not worth it, imo, to run outside of a few weeks prior to stepping onstage.

Otherwise good looking cycle, I would run my test a little higher, but that’s really just an opinion sort of thing, I don’t see any reason you’d have issues at 300/wk especially if this is your first go.

I’m running dhb and eq right now, loving it so far. Look forward to seeing your results.
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Hey bro, are you logging the DHB/EQ cycle?
If not, how much are you running, and how's it going?
 
Mwhite530 said:
I’m using test e. And I thought about dbol but the bloating from it really is what scares me away. Tbol definitely was a thought I just don’t know how much it costs and the only reason I considered a ph was because it’s Black Friday so they’re half off lmao but I’ll probably stick to the yk as I’ve had good results in the past from it and I already have plenty. And yeah I’ve heard that about winstrol but it’s free so I’ll take it for a future cycle probably.
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Good choice bro.
I think I'd stick with that.
 
Mwhite530 said:
I’m using test e. And I thought about dbol but the bloating from it really is what scares me away. Tbol definitely was a thought I just don’t know how much it costs and the only reason I considered a ph was because it’s Black Friday so they’re half off lmao but I’ll probably stick to the yk as I’ve had good results in the past from it and I already have plenty. And yeah I’ve heard that about winstrol but it’s free so I’ll take it for a future cycle probably.
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What were your results with yk
 
Mwhite530 said:
I’m using test e. And I thought about dbol but the bloating from it really is what scares me away. Tbol definitely was a thought I just don’t know how much it costs and the only reason I considered a ph was because it’s Black Friday so they’re half off lmao but I’ll probably stick to the yk as I’ve had good results in the past from it and I already have plenty. And yeah I’ve heard that about winstrol but it’s free so I’ll take it for a future cycle probably.
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Dbol and bloat is mainly a diet issue. You can stay relatively lean on it if you keep your day to day eating clean. But tbol is good stuff. If you wanted something to buy today for Black Friday instead of actual tbol... halodrol clones always gave me good results. I don’t think they still sell M14ADD or whatever the Dbol prohormone was, and I don’t believe the potency compared to the actual steroid was worth taking it compared to Hdrol/tbol, which in my experience had fairly similar effect, with tbol only being moderately stronger than its designer counterpart.
 
GMG760 said:
Dbol and bloat is mainly a diet issue. You can stay relatively lean on it if you keep your day to day eating clean. But tbol is good stuff. If you wanted something to buy today for Black Friday instead of actual tbol... halodrol clones always gave me good results. I don’t think they still sell M14ADD or whatever the Dbol prohormone was, and I don’t believe the potency compared to the actual steroid was worth taking it compared to Hdrol/tbol, which in my experience had fairly similar effect, with tbol only being moderately stronger than its designer counterpart.
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I’ll look into tbol
 
Did my second pin today. Left quad. I liked it more there because I didn’t have to twist around but I did feel the pinch a little more than I did in the glute. It went in smoothly again. Also took 10mg yk this morning. Can’t wait for it all to start kicking in!
 
Renew1 said:
Hey bro, are you logging the DHB/EQ cycle?
If not, how much are you running, and how's it going?
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I havent logged a cycle on here in years but I might have to start one now that I’m spending more time on the message board again.

I’m running:
sustanon at 750mg/wk for 20 weeks.
eq at 600mg/wk for 20 weeks.
DHB at 400mg/wk for 6-8 weeks then bumping it to 500/wk for another 6-8 weeks.
Running Dbol at 50mg/day for first 4 weeks.

I’m 3 weeks into it... so far so good, I’ll keep everyone posted.
 
Starting to think I may back off on the eq. After two pins I’m already close to halfway done with one bottle. I’ll give it some more time so I can think about it, especially since Christmas is coming and I’ll probably get some cash from that. Thinking if I do back off on it, I’ll go down to 400 a week.
 
Mwhite530 said:
Starting to think I may back off on the eq. After two pins I’m already close to halfway done with one bottle. I’ll give it some more time so I can think about it, especially since Christmas is coming and I’ll probably get some cash from that. Thinking if I do back off on it, I’ll go down to 400 a week.
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How are you already halfway through it? How many mg/ml? How many ml? Something sounds off
 
Mwhite530 said:
Right. I might just be tripping out it I didn’t get as much as it says is in the bottle but I’ll check again when I’m home from work and keep you all posted
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Well sometimes the vials are filled up that high, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not 10ml. My test e that I have now is only about 70% full or so, but it’s a wider vial, if that makes sense.
 
Third shot was last night. Finally able to get on a schedule. Doing Tuesday/Friday. I know it’s not the eq because it doesn’t start this early but I’ve been insanely hungry recently and I have no clue why. Could it be from the test? I did the shot into my delts. Since the total shot is equal to 2ml (.5of test and 1.5 of eq), I shot 1ml into each delt and they’re pretty sore today.
 
In for the info. Always been interested in eq.

I was gonna run a test winstrol cycle starting this month but we had an unexpected expense that ate the funds i had planned on using. Kinda thinking of forgetting about the winstrol for now. Possibly adding it in at the end who knows. But i have the test on hand and am toying with the idea of throwing eq on board and starting it all after the new year.

Is 600 a typical eq dose? Whats considered the sweetspot for it?
 
Popeisdope said:
In for the info. Always been interested in eq.

I was gonna run a test winstrol cycle starting this month but we had an unexpected expense that ate the funds i had planned on using. Kinda thinking of forgetting about the winstrol for now. Possibly adding it in at the end who knows. But i have the test on hand and am toying with the idea of throwing eq on board and starting it all after the new year.

Is 600 a typical eq dose? Whats considered the sweetspot for it?
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I’ve always read 400-600
 
Renew1 said:
After trial and (not really error), and a lot of QUALITY advice...i will be using 600mg EQ, And 3O0 Test next time. Seems like an excellent ratio.
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This is what I’m doing. I really don’t see why there would be a need for test any higher than 300 on a first cycle or 750 ever. Seems like you’re just asking for sides
 
Mwhite530 said:
Third shot was last night. Finally able to get on a schedule. Doing Tuesday/Friday. I know it’s not the eq because it doesn’t start this early but I’ve been insanely hungry recently and I have no clue why. Could it be from the test? I did the shot into my delts. Since the total shot is equal to 2ml (.5of test and 1.5 of eq), I shot 1ml into each delt and they’re pretty sore today.
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I hear eq makes you eat like a horse, I'll be running it here in March (ish) for summer.

The soreness goes away after about 3 weeks once your body gets used to the added volume. I do about 1.9ml into onw delt, the normal volume max that you can shoot into your shoulders is 2ml so you'll be fine if you shoot that each time.
 
Shiznitzz said:
I hear eq makes you eat like a horse, I'll be running it here in March (ish) for summer.

The soreness goes away after about 3 weeks once your body gets used to the added volume. I do about 1.9ml into onw delt, the normal volume max that you can shoot into your shoulders is 2ml so you'll be fine if you shoot that each time.
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Depends man, I never have high appetite on EQ, while my friend has huge appetite on EQ, in the end every person is different and we all react differently on steroids :)
 
Mwhite530 said:
Hey everyone.

This is my first real anabolic cycle. I’ve ran sarms and ph’s in the past but I decided it was time to step it up a little. I’m running 300 test and 600 eq for 16 weeks, kickstarting with yk-11, and possibly finishing it off with some winstrol.

Stats:
20y/o
Weight: 250
Height:6’3
Working out 5 times per week doing push pull legs upper lower
Calories will fluctuate as my coach decides so I’ll keep you all updated on that as it happens.

Pct will be :
nolva 60 first two days and then 40/40/40/20
Clomid 100 first two days then 50/50/50/25
Hcg 500iu per week

Last night was my first injection into the left glute and it was smooth and I have no pain the next day. Looking forward to how this cycle pans out.
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I swear I’ve heard Hcg was not good in pct
 
SDPonce63 said:
I’m running Hcg in my cycle of test and deca for 16 weeks then dropping it before pct maybe I heard wrong
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I’ve heard both theories. It seems like a lot of the old school guys put it in their pct and the new age people run it on cycle. Mine is in the mail as we speak so I can do either way.
 
MarkoK87 said:
Depends man, I never have high appetite on EQ, while my friend has huge appetite on EQ, in the end every person is different and we all react differently on steroids :)
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I just don’t get how the hunger is already starting if eq doesn’t normally start working until week 6 ish(that’s what I’ve heard)
 
Shiznitzz said:
I hear eq makes you eat like a horse, I'll be running it here in March (ish) for summer.

The soreness goes away after about 3 weeks once your body gets used to the added volume. I do about 1.9ml into onw delt, the normal volume max that you can shoot into your shoulders is 2ml so you'll be fine if you shoot that each time.
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I was shooting 1 into each because I didn’t want one to look inflamed and the other to look normal lmao
 
Mwhite530 said:
I’ve heard both theories. It seems like a lot of the old school guys put it in their pct and the new age people run it on cycle. Mine is in the mail as we speak so I can do either way.
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Yeah I guess it’s just preference. I’ve heard running it on cycle will keep your natural test going and not let your testicles reach hydrotrophy. However, I’ve heard running it on cycle is unnecessary and running it for 2-3 weeks before pct will help get your natural test levels going... lots of controversy
 
SDPonce63 said:
Yeah I guess it’s just preference. I’ve heard running it on cycle will keep your natural test going and not let your testicles reach hydrotrophy. However, I’ve heard running it on cycle is unnecessary and running it for 2-3 weeks before pct will help get your natural test levels going... lots of controversy
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I imagine it mostly has to do with how long you cycle is. I’m gonna be on for 16 weeks so if I don’t use it at all on cycle I will basically have no balls left so I’m thinking I’ll use it on cycle
 
Mwhite530 said:
I was shooting 1 into each because I didn’t want one to look inflamed and the other to look normal lmao
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If your body is dissipating the oils well it shouldn't be noticable, I'm 7 weeks in and I no longer look inflamed on my shoulders even when shooting 2ml. At first it will be sore and you'll have a slight raise but that'll go away when you stack on muscle in the shoulders.
 
Testicular atrophy is bad. That is what ends up messing up your reproductive system. So you want to avoid this by using HCG on cycle. That way when you re-introduce leutenizing hormone your testes will be primed to accept it and there should be a flawless transition from synthetic LH (HCG) to your bodies' LH. Run HCG all the way through to a week after you start your SERM.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Testicular atrophy is bad. That is what ends up messing up your reproductive system. So you want to avoid this by using HCG on cycle. That way when you re-introduce leutenizing hormone your testes will be primed to accept it and there should be a flawless transition from synthetic LH (HCG) to your bodies' LH. Run HCG all the way through to a week after you start your SERM.
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Good to know!
 
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