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Best for serious fat loss?

TheBigBrodie

TheBigBrodie

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So I have been taking MK677 for a good 7-8 months solid now (which today is my last day taking it I want to give my body a break) anyways, I have gained some serious fat on my body. I have done cardio for a good 5 weeks now and im on a lean diet but the fat WILL NOT come off. I have heard GW50156 is great for fat loss and I also have heard pure labs turbo cuts is a great option. All comments are welcome. my goal is to find a compound that's safe and will do the job. - thanks.
 
Swim is right, if this is newly gained fat, you should be able to kill it with some solid carb cutting and more calories burned. Reduce your calories from carbs by half at least, if not go full on ketogenic. That's my suggestion. Take cardarine if you want, it does make cardio easier to deal with for sure.
 
A sustained small calorie deficit is ultimately the best for fat loss with no risks.

Some natty fat burners can provide a very small boost with no sides or risk.

My personal view is that an ECAY stack is the least risky of the more hardcore options. If you are stim tolerant the sides are pretty much none. Many people get great results off that stack.

Then clen, personally I like the jittery feeling and just my opinion but if you limit the useage in a year to a few targetted blasts the risks are minimised. However you have to do your own research on clen and decide if you are willing to take the risk as the heart isn’t exactly something to take lightly.

I’ve never tried T3 but plan to

Won’t ever take DNP, **** that ****
 
First; go in cal deficit. If you are not loosing fat you are not in a cal deficit, period. Are you tracking your calories? If you are then you are overestimating your TDEE.

Second: GH is one of the best fatburners. Also increasing GH via peptides is one of the mose safest ways to go about it. So I would recommend cjc1295dac @3mg e6d.
 
Jinsun said:
First; go in cal deficit. If you are not loosing fat you are not in a cal deficit, period. Are you tracking your calories? If you are then you are overestimating your TDEE.

Second: GH is one of the best fatburners. Also increasing GH via peptides is one of the mose safest ways to go about it. So I would recommend cjc1295dac @3mg e6d.
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Ohhh thanks for that one!
 
Wow, this thread is now missing some good comments. Apparently me talking about DNP offhand is not good.
 
Just read your post in full-- I battled with this after countless cardio seshs'. Anavar was the only compound that legit burned away the subQ fat. I'd run it all year round if it was cost effective, at a low dose.
 
I'd go with

11oxo 600mg
Anavar 50mg
T3 100mcg
Berberine or another GDA at every meal
IGF-1 LR3 10-20mcg in the morning POST CARDIO NEVER PRE CARDIO.
And of course your dose of cardarine.


You should be able to run all that without very much risk.
 
Old Witch said:
Wow, this thread is now missing some good comments. Apparently me talking about DNP offhand is not good.
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You know what you said was actually very excellent but im not willing to take the “leap of faithL especially on DNP. I might do some anvar and winstrol actually.
 
I wasn't particularly advocating for DNP, it just fascinates me. And it's highly effective. It's just not safe.
 
Old Witch said:
I'd go with

11oxo 600mg
Anavar 50mg
T3 100mcg
Berberine or another GDA at every meal
IGF-1 LR3 10-20mcg in the morning POST CARDIO NEVER PRE CARDIO.
And of course your dose of cardarine.


You should be able to run all that without very much risk.
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Is 11oxo still legal
 
I heard meth works great for suppressing the appetite and fat loss...and some teeth. My Dr put me on Adderal...i cant take it because i cant even force food down...lol
 
TheBigBrodie said:
So I have been taking MK677 for a good 7-8 months solid now (which today is my last day taking it I want to give my body a break) anyways, I have gained some serious fat on my body. I have done cardio for a good 5 weeks now and im on a lean diet but the fat WILL NOT come off. I have heard GW50156 is great for fat loss and I also have heard pure labs turbo cuts is a great option. All comments are welcome. my goal is to find a compound that's safe and will do the job. - thanks.
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I was not impressed with the fat loss with GW, but it definitely made cardio easier.

you might want to looking into something to increase insulin sensitivity, as the fat gain from MK might be partially due to a reduced sensitivity. metformin, lipoic acid, etc.
 
CatSnake said:
I was not impressed with the fat loss with GW, but it definitely made cardio easier.

you might want to looking into something to increase insulin sensitivity, as the fat gain from MK might be partially due to a reduced sensitivity. metformin, lipoic acid, etc.
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I wonder if the gw I got was bunk cause I noticed nothing.

I’m cutting with 12.5mg of mk677 now, not noticing any difficulty. Also on strict keto though.
 
IMO, MK-677 is not friendly for getting rid of unwanted fat...I would drop that right off. Some people claim the opposite, and that may be true for them. The insulin sensitivity issue alone is enough to significantly hinder fat loss. MK-677 is not intended to promote a lean ripped look by any means.
 
CatSnake said:
I was not impressed with the fat loss with GW, but it definitely made cardio easier.

you might want to looking into something to increase insulin sensitivity, as the fat gain from MK might be partially due to a reduced sensitivity. metformin, lipoic acid, etc.
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Very excellent information!! Thanks a bunch!
 
GW helps but not by directly cutting fat. It will help A LOT by helping you do more cardio. It will be much easier to do it, especially when you are on a cut and are burned out, it helps a lot in this regard.
 
Jinsun said:
GW helps but not by directly cutting fat. It will help A LOT by helping you do more cardio. It will be much easier to do it, especially when you are on a cut and are burned out, it helps a lot in this regard.
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Might have to pick up some gw myself knowing this
 
Jinsun said:
But tbh why use it at all if it can be cancerous... I wont use it ever again bc of this
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Well, if you look at the data presented you can see that they never induced cancer via gw501516. It made existing tumors grow faster. Much like GH. If you'd use GH, or mk677, or testosterone (all can make cancer grow faster) then I don't see any reason not to use cardarine.
 
Also, the degree to which it increases performance is quite pronounced and nearly immediate. By day three you're not easily winded, even if you have chronic bronchitis (copd) as I do. By the way, don't smoke cigarettes ever in your life. Just don't. I did for 20years. Even while using anabolics and everything. Now my lungs are just trashed. I don't smoke anymore but the damage is permanent.
 
Old Witch said:
Well, if you look at the data presented you can see that they never induced cancer via gw501516. It made existing tumors grow faster. Much like GH. If you'd use GH, or mk677, or testosterone (all can make cancer grow faster) then I don't see any reason not to use cardarine.
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Also to add to this, they gave rodents, who already had the gene which pre disposed them to cancer, bolus doses. Far, far exceeding the equivalent dose we, as humans would take.
 
Vikingbro said:
Also to add to this, they gave rodents, who already had the gene which pre disposed them to cancer, bolus doses. Far, far exceeding the equivalent dose we, as humans would take.
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In nearly all studies I can find they induced cancer in the rodents prior to treatment with cardarine because part of its purported effect was tumor/cancer cell death. So they induced cancer and tumors with radiation, specifically radioactive material exposure. I believe they fed them some poisonous radioactive isotope of radium or uranium, something like that.
 
Pretty sure being on Mk677 for so longbyour blood glucose levels will be high ,get them checked and add a GDA to bring it down this worked for me .
 
It was tested in humans at up to 5mg a day, and the study should have been deemed a success. I do not understand why they shelved it at that point.
 
Old Witch said:
In nearly all studies I can find they induced cancer in the rodents prior to treatment with cardarine because part of its purported effect was tumor/cancer cell death. So they induced cancer and tumors with radiation, specifically radioactive material exposure. I believe they fed them some poisonous radioactive isotope of radium or uranium, something like that.
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Interesting. I did not know this. This is a pointless way of determining if it induces cancer. What were they trying to prove? If you have given an animal cancer, what’s the point of them giving it another drug to induce cancer?
 
Vikingbro said:
Interesting. I did not know this. This is a pointless way of determining if it induces cancer. What were they trying to prove? If you have given an animal cancer, what’s the point of them giving it another drug to induce cancer?
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It’s just like the study back in 72 or whenever that everybody cites about nitrates causing cancer. They fed rats absurd amounts of BURNT bacon and use that as black and white evidence that nitrates cause cancer. Who eats deliberately burnt food? Most of these studies are usually done with an agenda.
 
Vikingbro said:
Interesting. I did not know this. This is a pointless way of determining if it induces cancer. What were they trying to prove? If you have given an animal cancer, what’s the point of them giving it another drug to induce cancer?
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Best summary I have come across Invalid Link Removed
 
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