Bloodwork-Should I continue my S23, Ostarine, Epi Andro, Rad 140 cycle

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I am about four weeks in to a cut using 12 mg Rad 140, 30 mg S23, 25 mg Ostarine, and 1000 mg Ep Andro. Due to concerns about potential liver toxicity from the S23 and Ostarine (mainly the S23) I decided to have liver bloodwork done four weeks in to my run. I did not have bloods immediately before my cycle, but I did earlier this year and all my liver values were in range. Not any longer. Below are my lab results. I don't think they are that far out of range so do you think it would be safe to continue my cycle on everything through 8 weeks or should I drop the S23 which I suspect is the problem? (Other posters running S23 have reported terrible sides such as dark urine, bad liver tests (one poster even said he got jaundice with his yellowing). I don't know if I should treat the S23 as equivalent to a methylated steroid and keep the run short or run it with everything else for the full 8 weeks as originally planned.

For liver support I am taking Olympus Labs Arimicare Pro which has 1000 mg NAC and 250 mg TUDCA. I am also taking 1250 mg of additional TUDCA on top of that also from Olympus Labs. Are my values at least in good enough range to continue with the S23.

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I am about four weeks in to a cut using 12 mg Rad 140, 30 mg S23, 25 mg Ostarine, and 1000 mg Ep Andro. Due to concerns about potential liver toxicity from the S23 and Ostarine (mainly the S23) I decided to have liver bloodwork done four weeks in to my run. I did not have bloods immediately before my cycle, but I did earlier this year and all my liver values were in range. Not any longer. Below are my lab results. I don't think they are that far out of range so do you think it would be safe to continue my cycle on everything through 8 weeks or should I drop the S23 which I suspect is the problem? (Other posters running S23 have reported terrible sides such as dark urine, bad liver tests (one poster even said he got jaundice with his yellowing). I don't know if I should treat the S23 as equivalent to a methylated steroid and keep the run short or run it with everything else for the full 8 weeks as originally planned.

For liver support I am taking Olympus Labs Arimicare Pro which has 1000 mg NAC and 250 mg TUDCA. I am also taking 1250 mg of additional TUDCA on top of that also from Olympus Labs. Are my values at least in good enough range to continue with the S23.

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I was expecting way higher on the liver numbers. Like 200+ based on what I seen blood work wise from other people. Looks like liver support doing its job + your strong liver. I'd still say 5 week max on the S23 personally. You seem to be a lucky one on the liver numbers + no sides.

Those number are fine tho. No problem continuing tho for the 8 weeks if that what you want to do. Just keep an eye of for sides and or any changes in numbers; I would then stop.
 
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Continue and monitor. If your alt doesn't go any higher you can keep that level of liver stress for years, technically. (Don't do that)
 

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I was expecting way higher on the liver numbers. Like 200+ based on what I seen blood work wise from other people. Looks like liver support doing its job + your strong liver. I'd still say 5 week max on the S23 personally. You seem to be a lucky one on the liver numbers + no sides.

Those number are fine tho. No problem continuing tho for the 8 weeks if that what you want to do. Just keep an eye of for sides and or any changes in numbers; I would then stop.
I think I am going to take your advice and cut it out at 5 weeks to be safe. I am very impressed with Olympus Labs TUDCA and Arimicare Pro...think that kept me safe, but don’t want to push my luck by running it for 8 weeks. I would like to run it again in like 3 months after this run for another 4 to 5 week run so that is playing a factor in my decision. If I ran this for 8 weeks now I wouldn’t feel comfortable running it again In just a couple months. Plus, I save money on Tudca and S23 if I cut it out at 5 weeks...will have some left over for a future 4 week run.
 

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Continue and monitor. If your alt doesn't go any higher you can keep that level of liver stress for years, technically. (Don't do that)

I would continue, but then I would have to pay for another blood test! Between buying ccmpounds, testing the S23, and getting bloods I am broke! Gonna run it 1 more week for a total of 5..
 
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Your ALP is low...do you have a diverse diet?
 

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Your ALP is low...do you have a diverse diet?
What is ALP? I don’t see it listed on the results sheet. As for a diverse diet I definetly do not have that lol! I am running an extreme cut at 1500 calories a day (low carb high protein) and eat literally the same foods every day while on my cut.
 
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What is ALP? I don’t see it listed on the results sheet. As for a diverse diet I definetly do not have that lol! I am running an extreme cut at 1500 calories a day (low carb high protein) and eat literally the same foods every day while on my cut.
Generally goes low when you are deficient in something..you are quite low
 

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May be due to the S23 as I had normal levels earlier this year. Who knows, could also be either the Ostarine, Rad, Epi Andro...
 

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Continue and monitor. If your alt doesn't go any higher you can keep that level of liver stress for years, technically. (Don't do that)
also got my testosterone and Hematocrit labs back. Not a surprise test measures in at 1500 due to my 175mg dosage of trt! What is a surprise to me is my hematocrit actually wen down! Not on any compounds other than my trt dose I had a reading of 51.8. It now reads only 44.4! This is great news and certainly not something you could expect if you were on an anabolic steroid which would do the opposite to the reading. This coupled with my liver reading of ALT levels only being at 49 I have changed my mind and decided to continue through with my cycle until the end of 8 weeks as originally planned while on my Arimicare Pro (includes 1000 mg NAC) and 1500 mg TUDCA. I did some research regarding ALT levels and read normal ranges can be considered up to a 56 which would actually put me at normal depending on the lab used. I also read elevations that are two to three times higher than that are only considered "mild". "Severe" elevations of Hematocrit is considered in the 1500 range which I am no where near either. I have come to believe with the proper support supplements and TUDCA run very high with a gallon to two gallons of water a day and if one keeps an eye on potential changes in urine color this Sarm can be run. I plan to get lipids and liver tests done in 4 weeks at the end of the cycle. Having great results...just couldn't come off . Below are my latest bloods
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Lol... i wouldn't even call your liver values elevated tbh. Keep going you'll be fine.
 
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lol with such good results I doubt your gear is even legit haha How is your progress? With all that gear you should be seeing some nice results.
 
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Those liver values are fine. I’d run the cycle for 8 weeks as planned. Even if your liver values were sky high, you’re not gonna need a transplant after one cycle. You’ll heal in your off time.
 

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lol with such good results I doubt your gear is even legit haha How is your progress? With all that gear you should be seeing some nice results.
You would be wrong as I sent some of it to a lab and had it tested and it came back showing the active compound at 80 percent.. Also I’m losing fat rapidly on my cut and adding weight to my lifts each week even though I am eating under 1500 calories.
 

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lol with such good results I doubt your gear is even legit haha How is your progress? With all that gear you should be seeing some nice results.

Also I am on trt so that is why my test values came back good.
 

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Yo! I thought you were stopping due to the hair loss? Haa so many threads to keep track of. Not bad of a peak level. I'm about 1500+ constant, but I do daily shots. Anywho continue on!
 

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Yo! I thought you were stopping due to the hair loss? Haa so many threads to keep track of. Not bad of a peak level. I'm about 1500+ constant, but I do daily shots. Anywho continue on!
Ya the test levels checked out nice. I don’t think the S23 is lowering them much if at all.
I was going to stop the cycle and reconsiderd. I am partially balding already (about 50 percent). I am forty and have been thinning since I was in my early twenties. I normally keep my hair very short because of this (a number one size guard at Great
Clips...which is the shortest they have). Anyway, got it shaved with no guard yesterday due to having the missing patch from the S23 and I like it and am going to keep it that way so no point in quitting! Having excellent results! Do you know if the hair grew back on the guys you know that ran it and got shedding? At this point, even if it didn’t it really doesn’t bother me anymore since I am just having it shaved shorter.
 

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Ya the test levels checked out nice. I don’t think the S23 is lowering them much if at all.
I was going to stop the cycle and reconsiderd. I am partially balding already (about 50 percent). I am forty and have been thinning since I was in my early twenties. I normally keep my hair very short because of this (a number one size guard at Great
Clips...which is the shortest they have). Anyway, got it shaved with no guard yesterday due to having the missing patch from the S23 and I like it and am going to keep it that way so no point in quitting! Having excellent results! Do you know if the hair grew back on the guys you know that ran it and got shedding? At this point, even if it didn’t it really doesn’t bother me anymore since I am just having it shaved shorter.
Not sure, they never mention it since they stop asap and haven't heard back. I will say yes as long as your not prone to it. Shampoo and some supplement will help. Just need to give it time.
 

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Not sure, they never mention it since they stop asap and haven't heard back. I will say yes as long as your not prone to it. Shampoo and some supplement will help. Just need to give it time.
Added in Rogaine yesterday. I am prone to balding so may be permanent though.
 

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