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3 - 4 week cycle SD or Anadrol

Chados said:
I hate this question because there are so many things I would need to take in to account. Did I run test? Any other compound? Did I have a good diet? How's my weight/muscle mass and prior experience with aas? I think it's one of those you can gain anything from 10 to 20 lbs pounds on during cycle. It doesn't add water under the skin making you look puffy but it pumps your muscles up. Its one of the drier bulking steroids out there. If I remember correctly I stacked it with test and something else but it really added some size fast.
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I thought it was a really easy question that unfortunately got a difficult answer. I wasn’t going to hold you accountable for your answer or argue with you, I just wanted to know if it’s worth for me to run since all I’m after is strength (with as little sides as possible). I know all potential sides can be managed, but you made it seem like it was close to no sides with low dose, plus, I’m only after strength and not too much weight gain.

So, to ask this question again, do you think that a low dose SD would be a good choice for someone that’s looking for as much strength as possible with as little weight gain and sides as possible?
 
BBiceps said:
I thought it was a really easy question that unfortunately got a difficult answer. I wasn’t going to hold you accountable for your answer or argue with you, I just wanted to know if it’s worth for me to run since all I’m after is strength (with as little sides as possible). I know all potential sides can be managed, but you made it seem like it was close to no sides with low dose, plus, I’m only after strength and not too much weight gain.

So, to ask this question again, do you think that a low dose SD would be a good choice for someone that’s looking for as much strength as possible with as little weight gain and sides as possible?
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I think var would be better suited for this. Because SD is know as one of the best mass builders
 
How much gains can one realistically expect to keep from a superdrol only cycle? Obviously it depends on a lot of other factors but like as a generalisation?
 
The gains will be less dramatic as you reach your genetic potential. But I have heard of seasoned guys putting on and keeping a solid 10lbs after a 5 week cycle. Which is outstanding.
 
Hiddengains just did a cycle, exactly as I am thinking of doing it and he did bloods. Mate can you please share?

I'm not surprised, he got shutdown but not 100%. This is now becoming a pattern. Serm on cycle keeps the hypothalamus alive but nuts still stop producing test mostly.
 
Jinsun said:
Hiddengains just did a cycle, exactly as I am thinking of doing it and he did bloods. Mate can you please share?

I'm not surprised, he got shutdown but not 100%. This is now becoming a pattern. Serm on cycle keeps the hypothalamus alive but nuts still stop producing test mostly.
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Yeah I think his total t was 450ish on 10mg of nolva every couple days
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
looking at the big picture - is it common to do a low dose (but effective SD cycle) then a solid PCT and follow that with something like Var a month or so down the road? add mass, try to retain it while coming back to hormonal equilibrium, then cut to trim the fat and add more lean mass?
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It’s been done lol. But it’s recommended to do cycle + pct = time off. Or else you can do more damage to your system than you are doing already
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
looking at the big picture - is it common to do a low dose (but effective SD cycle) then a solid PCT and follow that with something like Var a month or so down the road? add mass, try to retain it while coming back to hormonal equilibrium, then cut to trim the fat and add more lean mass?
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RickyBlobby said:
It’s been done lol. But it’s recommended to do cycle + pct = time off. Or else you can do more damage to your system than you are doing already
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So much this. You would be better off health wise on a single 10wk cycle of 4wks Sdrol into 6 wks of Var, and then PCT, and then 14wks off.

Coming on and off frequently is a good way to make lackluster progress and feel like trash. I did this for the first few years and can say wholeheartedly that doing 2 cycles a year is way better on my bloods and how I feel month in and out. There needs to be time off, and you need to spend enough time on to really establish your gains.

Easy on, easy off - remember that.
 
Id say most people do go the SD route, if by most people we look at guys beyond this forum. Trest just isnt used and recommended as widely as Sdrol. Again, generally, so it depends on what forums you frequent. Typically, if someone asks for a strong oral recommendation, itll be sdrol or dbol over trest. If someone asks for a strong IM rec, itll be tren or deca over trest. Subjectivity aside, trestolone (esp IM) is a far superior compound. But, as with dbol and deca, youll find lots of forum bros have some kind of obsession with them that there couldnt possibly be better compounds.

Also, lots of fake Sdrol doing the rounds, so sourcing can be tricky, which makes people (here) less likely and able to make recommendations.
 
I'm debating right now whether to go anadrol or adrol. I get more mass from anadrol but more strength from sdrol. I do need to feed on extra carbs when I run adrol though.
 
mixedup said:
I'm debating right now whether to go anadrol or adrol. I get more mass from anadrol but more strength from sdrol. I do need to feed on extra carbs when I run adrol though.
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Well I still haven't decided what to do. Hiddengains just did a 10mg sdrol and 30mg torem cycle and got almost shutdown, so I am leaning more towards anadrol atm. But if I'll do a proper 12 - 16 week cycle I'll go with sdrol for a kicker at the start...
 
BBiceps said:
I thought it was a really easy question that unfortunately got a difficult answer. I wasn’t going to hold you accountable for your answer or argue with you, I just wanted to know if it’s worth for me to run since all I’m after is strength (with as little sides as possible). I know all potential sides can be managed, but you made it seem like it was close to no sides with low dose, plus, I’m only after strength and not too much weight gain.

So, to ask this question again, do you think that a low dose SD would be a good choice for someone that’s looking for as much strength as possible with as little weight gain and sides as possible?
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Yes absolutely.
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
With so much talk of Superdrol ... can you give me the superdrol vs trestalone breakdown? I only ask since I have seen so many people post about how powerful Trest is and isnt for beginners due to how it interacts with the body. On this thread specifially I see posters stating that Superdol is crazy strong and can be run at low doses ... and (correct me if i am wrong) has less sides and is less androgenic to the point women can take it. So why doesnt everyone go the SD route? What are the pros and cons of each?
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Trest alone is a more complexed compound and some claims it works as a test base. It's a 19 nor but it seems that most people react better to the sides from trest than tren and deca. It will cause high estrogen in your body compared to sdrol, in fact I think treat is more estrogenic than dbol which is by many consider to be a bloater. So yes trest can bloat you and you'd need to have an ai and caber and probably run them through the while cycle, this isn't the fact with sdrol. If you go by effective dosage not many things beats superdrol at such a low dose because it doesn't have almost any androgenic or estrogenic sides and it shouldnt cause much strain on the liver/BP or anything else.

I think you'd experience more what people call 3d shape with trest but I'm not sure it's stronger, I definitely think you'd bloat more also... The thing is that superdrol exists as injectible and I think it would be more fair to compare that since the oral version probably should never be dosed higher than 30-50mg before it starts getting dangerous for the liver and very few I've seen dosed it above 20 and its still considered one of the strongest orals out there.
 
So if it's not estrogenic or androgenic then the only real concerns are liver, lipids and blood pressure? I always thought superdrol had a reputation as a very harsh drug and not well suited to beginners compared to something like epistane, do you think that's justified?
 
BarryScott said:
So if it's not estrogenic or androgenic then the only real concerns are liver, lipids and blood pressure? I always thought superdrol had a reputation as a very harsh drug and not well suited to beginners compared to something like epistane, do you think that's justified?
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Absolutely but again you can run tren vs test both at 500mg or tren at 100mg and test at 500 and get the same results.. Maybe not exactly but you get the point. The question is exactly what you were pointing at.. What is the effective dosage and how does it compare to the effective dosage of another compound. Its probably safer to go with the epistane regardless but you won't find any steroid that can be ran as low as superdrol with so little androgenic sides while building so much muscle. I see no problem someone running epistane, I'm just putting it out there that superdrol is very misunderstood.
 
Jinsun said:
On a 4 week SD cycle his TT dropped to 60...
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Different compounds, different results. He also mentioned he felt fine throughout and his LH and FSH stayed normal
 
LaserGoPewPew said:
With so much talk of Superdrol ... can you give me the superdrol vs trestalone breakdown? I only ask since I have seen so many people post about how powerful Trest is and isnt for beginners due to how it interacts with the body. On this thread specifially I see posters stating that Superdol is crazy strong and can be run at low doses ... and (correct me if i am wrong) has less sides and is less androgenic to the point women can take it. So why doesnt everyone go the SD route? What are the pros and cons of each?
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Apples and oranges, if ever there was. It’s not uncommon for them to be stacked because of this - they are that different.

Trest was engineered as a male contraceptive. This was something you go to the doc every couple weeks, get your shot, and cruise Trest in place of your natural test production. It shuts your nuts off that hard and fast - that was the intention, medically. Because it seemed to work so well to maintain sexual function, energy, drive, it can be used in lieu of testosterone for extended periods. Almost no other steroids really fit that bill. BUT the downside is you are really asking for HPTA damage doing this - you aren’t going to recover from a long Trest cruise, and this is only a good option for guys on TRT for life already.

It’s for that reason I stay away from Trest entirely. I’m only 28 - if I can get another 5-10 years out of my natural function, I’m going to.
 
Hyde said:
Apples and oranges, if ever there was. It’s not uncommon for them to be stacked because of this - they are that different.

Trest was engineered as a male contraceptive. This was something you go to the doc every couple weeks, get your shot, and cruise Trest in place of your natural test production. It shuts your nuts off that hard and fast - that was the intention, medically. Because it seemed to work so well to maintain sexual function, energy, drive, it can be used in lieu of testosterone for extended periods. Almost no other steroids really fit that bill. BUT the downside is you are really asking for HPTA damage doing this - you aren’t going to recover from a long Trest cruise, and this is only a good option for guys on TRT for life already.

It’s for that reason I stay away from Trest entirely. I’m only 28 - if I can get another 5-10 years out of my natural function, I’m going to.
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This is exactly why I stay away from trest. Lot's of ppl are in love with it, but I bet most are on trt or just don't give a fu*k about hpta health...
 
Jinsun said:
Still not total shutdown. I presume PCT will be a breaze.
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So far all they guys who tried the serm, and whose t didn’t hold up, said they felt fine. And said they had a super easy PCT. placebo maybe? I don’t really understand
 
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