Tbol cycle questions

[YoungThor]

I’m a couple months out from running this cycle but in the meantime I’d like to ask some questions. My goal is to bulk up. I’d like to add somewhere around 10 lbs LBM. If I go beyond that then awesome, but I’m keeping my goal relatively modest. I’m aware that how much I gain is largely dependent on diet and training.

So which would you choose between these two options?
40mg ED for 6 weeks
30mg ED for 8 weeks

Also, considering tbol is a mild oral, do you believe dermacrine is a sufficient base?

I’m thinking my PCT would be clomid at 45/45/30/30. Thoughts?

 

[Whisky]

I’m a couple months out from running this cycle but in the meantime I’d like to ask some questions. My goal is to bulk up. I’d like to add somewhere around 10 lbs LBM. If I go beyond that then awesome, but I’m keeping my goal relatively modest. I’m aware that how much I gain is largely dependent on diet and training.

So which would you choose between these two options?
40mg ED for 6 weeks
30mg ED for 8 weeks

Also, considering tbol is a mild oral, do you believe dermacrine is a sufficient base?

I’m thinking my PCT would be clomid at 45/45/30/30. Thoughts?

40 for 6 would get my vote with tbol - I’ve just finished 6 weeks at 50 and it’s been great. I’m aware of people running higher than that though.

No idea on derm as a base, I pinned test (which 100% worked as a base lol)

 

[khall1974]

I ran 40mg for 7 with test e 500mg. The cycle was 12 weeks and I could feel the difference the last 5 without tbol.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

40-60mg for 6 weeks would be your best bet. Test base is optional. Pct looks fine. I think you’ll love tbol, it’s my favorite oral I’ve tried yet.

 

[SpicedCider]

I'm going to be running TBol cycle myself starting in November. Thinking about starting off at 50 mg/day, then upping the dose as high as 70-80 mg/day during the last few weeks if it would be safe to do so.

Have you considered running a SERM during your cycle, such as Toremifene? There is anecdotal evidence that this could prevent shutdown by maintaining production of LH and FSH, although testosterone levels overall would still take something of a hit.

 

[YoungThor]

I'm going to be running TBol cycle myself starting in November. Thinking about starting off at 50 mg/day, then upping the dose as high as 70-80 mg/day during the last few weeks if it would be safe to do so.

Have you considered running a SERM during your cycle, such as Toremifene? There is anecdotal evidence that this could prevent shutdown by maintaining production of LH and FSH, although testosterone levels overall would still take something of a hit.

I’ve thought about running a serm on cycle. A lot of people say it works. I have some clomid now but I’m worried about running that on cycle because it makes me feel moody and depressed. I don’t want the negative feelings of clomid to contend with the good “on” feelings of tbol. So maybe I’ll test this theory with torem instead.

 

[YoungThor]

40-60mg for 6 weeks would be your best bet. Test base is optional. Pct looks fine. I think you’ll love tbol, it’s my favorite oral I’ve tried yet.

I’m glad you said test base is optional. I’ve heard tbol alone gives a good energy and libido boost so I was thinking maybe I could get away with running it solo.

 

[Kha0s]

I'm just finishing up my 6th week at 50mg per day. Was also running test E at 150mg per week and masteron at 200mg per week and proviron 50mg per day. It was kind of a mini cut before really upping the dose into blast with test tren and mast. Over the 6 weeks, I lost 3 or 4 percent body fat while staying exactly the same weight. Tbol is a good compound as long as diet is on point. It is however pretty mild. I can tell you I personally prefer epistane honestly as it dries you out while providing similar if not slightly more dramatic results at a lesser dose. 40mgs a day was almost like tren light for me. I'd bump the tbol to 50 for 6 weeks if you can get more maybe even 60. As always, tudca and mac. Good luck!

 

[AnabolicGuru]

I’m glad you said test base is optional. I’ve heard tbol alone gives a good energy and libido boost so I was thinking maybe I could get away with running it solo.

It didn’t give me any difference in libido, energy, etc. My first three cycles were oral only without test bases and on one of those cycles resulted in lethargy, although my circumstances were a bit different since I was on trt and discontinued it prior to the cycle.

 

[SpicedCider]

I’ve thought about running a serm on cycle. A lot of people say it works. I have some clomid now but I’m worried about running that on cycle because it makes me feel moody and depressed. I don’t want the negative feelings of clomid to contend with the good “on” feelings of tbol. So maybe I’ll test this theory with torem instead.

I'm just finishing up my 6th week at 50mg per day. Was also running test E at 150mg per week and masteron at 200mg per week and proviron 50mg per day. It was kind of a mini cut before really upping the dose into blast with test tren and mast. Over the 6 weeks, I lost 3 or 4 percent body fat while staying exactly the same weight. Tbol is a good compound as long as diet is on point. It is however pretty mild. I can tell you I personally prefer epistane honestly as it dries you out while providing similar if not slightly more dramatic results at a lesser dose. 40mgs a day was almost like tren light for me. I'd bump the tbol to 50 for 6 weeks if you can get more maybe even 60. As always, tudca and mac. Good luck!

So you noticed more of a recomp effect from TBol than anything else? Not that that's a bad thing in general, but I was hoping to be able to do something of a lean bulk when I run my own TBol cycle next month. I wonder if someone looking to do more of bulk (as opposed to a recomp) would be better off going with something else. Then again, I'm a skinny bastard, so maybe I'll get more out of TBol in terms of gains than some of you more "genetically maxed" guys.

 

[SpicedCider]

I’ve thought about running a serm on cycle. A lot of people say it works. I have some clomid now but I’m worried about running that on cycle because it makes me feel moody and depressed. I don’t want the negative feelings of clomid to contend with the good “on” feelings of tbol. So maybe I’ll test this theory with torem instead.

Yeah, I've heard torem is a pretty mild SERM that most guys don't notice any side effects from. Another option I was considering was HCG injections instead of torem. Have you considered that option as well (would maintain LH and FSH levels throughout cycle)?