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First time sarm user

Ironeater94

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Been looking into sarms and im curious wanna give it ago so far only anabolics ive done are andro 1 and 4. They wernt bad but hit my cholesterol a little bit. Want something a little cleaner until i pick a aas source. What do yall suggest for cutting thinking about giving clen ago but it seems kinda sketchy
 
My ldl was only 2 points over so i wasnt to aggressive but ive researched alot and it seems sarms would be less toxic with same results as phs that are now available
 
Ive been doing some here recently i know hear about them alot never really looked into then until recently when i got some bad sides from my last cycle of phs
 
For a cut with SARMS and such, Ostarine, 7 Keto DHEA, and cardarine. Clen, I don't like, makes my heart beat triple fast.

If you're in the neighborhood of 200lbs then dosage would be something like

Ostarine 30mg/day
Cardarine 20mg/day
7 Keto DHEA 100mg 2x/day

That stack would be very mild on sides, which would come only from Ostarine. 7keto is non suppressive, and cardarine is not a SARM or steroid hormone. You could also add calcium pyruvate as that has a synergistic effect on 7 Keto making it last longer in the system and thusly increasing effect. Mk677 is also great for a cutting phase because the reduced presence of insulin during a cut will allow for maximum GH release and effect. Use 20-30mg daily of that as well if you want.
 
Just recently got this stack in still waiting on the 7 keto would i seperate each dose with meals, all at the same time. Maybe ostarine and caradine before gym 5am and the rest with breakfast?
 
Old Witch said:
For a cut with SARMS and such, Ostarine, 7 Keto DHEA, and cardarine. Clen, I don't like, makes my heart beat triple fast.

If you're in the neighborhood of 200lbs then dosage would be something like

Ostarine 30mg/day
Cardarine 20mg/day
7 Keto DHEA 100mg 2x/day

That stack would be very mild on sides, which would come only from Ostarine. 7keto is non suppressive, and cardarine is not a SARM or steroid hormone. You could also add calcium pyruvate as that has a synergistic effect on 7 Keto making it last longer in the system and thusly increasing effect. Mk677 is also great for a cutting phase because the reduced presence of insulin during a cut will allow for maximum GH release and effect. Use 20-30mg daily of that as well if you want.
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Just purchased this stack what would be best way to time it ostarine and caradine before gym 5am and the 7 keto after and second dose at 5pm? Im gonna add the mk677 as well
 
I would recommend taking everything but the mk677 right away in the morning, and a second dose of 7 Keto 12 hours later. Mk677 is best an hour before bed for many users, as it can make you feel quite tired, and it intensifies the GH pulses during sleep as its main method of action.

If you're training fasted then maybe 7 Keto after training with the meal instead of before. When it kicks in you'll likely have a bowel movement and get quite hungry after.
 
Old Witch said:
I would recommend taking everything but the mk677 right away in the morning, and a second dose of 7 Keto 12 hours later. Mk677 is best an hour before bed for many users, as it can make you feel quite tired, and it intensifies the GH pulses during sleep as its main method of action.

If you're training fasted then maybe 7 Keto after training with the meal instead of before. When it kicks in you'll likely have a bowel movement and get quite hungry after.
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I see alot of supression questions about osta i have a pct for after but what would you suggest for cycle support? If suppression sides do occur
 
Well if you have sides from suppression the only thing that's really going to fix those is an androgen like testosterone. If you try to take an Aromatase inhibitor then likely it will just speed up that process. And any of that will just make the suppression itself worse. You're best off without any sort of support for that, just relying on the fact that your natural levels won't necessarily drop much from just Ostarine. If you really really really want something then a good NMDAA or withanolides A and B etc.

If you're mainly just meaning to fight ED then cialis and cabergoline, boner city.
 
Old Witch said:
Well if you have sides from suppression the only thing that's really going to fix those is an androgen like testosterone. If you try to take an Aromatase inhibitor then likely it will just speed up that process. And any of that will just make the suppression itself worse. You're best off without any sort of support for that, just relying on the fact that your natural levels won't necessarily drop much from just Ostarine. If you really really really want something then a good NMDAA or withanolides A and B etc.

If you're mainly just meaning to fight ED then cialis and cabergoline, boner city.
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Not very fimilair with nmdaa's but i still have some andro 1 and 4 laying around and ok will do thanks bro ill get bloods done half way in and just got my befores done 2
 
Clen is increasing metabolism and its basically useless if you want to build muscle. You can do this by eating less and if you want to add size and lean out you'd have to go sarms or aas route or just stay natural and perhaps increase the intake of food.
 
Chados said:
Clen is increasing metabolism and its basically useless if you want to build muscle. You can do this by eating less and if you want to add size and lean out you'd have to go sarms or aas route or just stay natural and perhaps increase the intake of food.
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Except eating less slows the metabolism. 7 Keto simply helps you digest food and move it through more quickly, which makes me personally very hungry. clen makes me not hungry in the least. Major difference.
 
Chados said:
Clen is increasing metabolism and its basically useless if you want to build muscle. You can do this by eating less and if you want to add size and lean out you'd have to go sarms or aas route or just stay natural and perhaps increase the intake of food.
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Ive dropped bout 35 pounds over the past 4 months almost where i wanna be bout 20 more we be good to go i figured with some sarms and strength trainging i could gain some and shred down until i get where i want not to concern with maximum gains until i hit about 190
 
Ironeater94 said:
Ive dropped bout 35 pounds over the past 4 months almost where i wanna be bout 20 more we be good to go i figured with some sarms and strength trainging i could gain some and shred down until i get where i want not to concern with maximum gains until i hit about 190
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I'm literally the opposite, gained 45lbs since February and eating everything in sight til I hit 260. Still about 60 lbs to go.
 
Ironeater94 said:
Ive dropped bout 35 pounds over the past 4 months almost where i wanna be bout 20 more we be good to go i figured with some sarms and strength trainging i could gain some and shred down until i get where i want not to concern with maximum gains until i hit about 190
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Sarms are arguably better.. They build muscle they probably preserve muscle better.. Clen you can only run for a short time, or should at least
 
Chados said:
Sarms are arguably better.. They build muscle they probably preserve muscle better.. Clen you can only run for a short time, or should at least
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Definitely can only run Clen a short time, I second that. That stuff makes my heart pound and I sweat all day and then I can't eat at all and it just makes life suck.
 
Chados said:
Sarms are arguably better.. They build muscle they probably preserve muscle better.. Clen you can only run for a short time, or should at least
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Yea ive talked to a few guys who run it 4 weeks tapering up 2 weeks then back down 2 weeks but just seems pretty risky when there are other options i think the stack that old witch mention sounds good for my firsf sarm run
 
First sarm cycle I did lgd 15 mgs per day 60 days with dermacrine 4 pumps per day for 60 days. If you want to see more gainz run rad-140 also at 15 mgs 60 days. Although rad 140 will cause serious lethargy at 30 days or so stacked with lgd
 
Ironeater94 said:
Yea ive talked to a few guys who run it 4 weeks tapering up 2 weeks then back down 2 weeks but just seems pretty risky when there are other options i think the stack that old witch mention sounds good for my firsf sarm run
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We always ran clen 2 weeks on and then 2 weeks off. It was always effective that way. 4 solid weeks sounds like a lot to me.
 
bigbeaph said:
We always ran clen 2 weeks on and then 2 weeks off. It was always effective that way. 4 solid weeks sounds like a lot to me.
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I personally havent tried it little nervous to just because of the cardiac effects but ive been told that the tapering up then down helps alot with the lenght of the cycle but i agree 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off would be best bet and probably taper in those weeks as well
 
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