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Just started TRT

Brain5ick

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Just started today, any advice or thoughts to give? They started me on 80mg a week then are going to raise it likely after 5 weeks.
 
I am assuming 80mg of test cyp injection.

My thought would be that's not gonna be near enough. Is this a regular doctor where insurance is paying or are you coming out of pocket at a clinic?

What was your starting total test serum levels at?
 
Codybenz said:
I am assuming 80mg of test cyp injection.

My thought would be that's not gonna be near enough. Is this a regular doctor where insurance is paying or are you coming out of pocket at a clinic?

What was your starting total test serum levels at?
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Yes it’s cyp. My starting levels are at 312ng/dL and it is a regular doc but he specializes in HRT and other endocrinology. Seems to know what he’s talking about and wants to get me to a higher range safely which is nice. Insurance pays for visit but not my script, it’s only $25 for it though.
 
Conservative Docs always seem to start that low. 200 is absurd to start someone at. He/She will keep bumping you up, but responsible Docs aren’t gonna dump a mini-cycle dose on anyone right out the gates..

Kinda why I self administer for now. Too many goals this year to drop below 1000 total test.
Maybe next year I will..
 
25.00 for how long?

I'm sure he will get it figured out and I'm no doctor, but if I had to guess, once your own production is suppressed by the exogenous testesterone, 80mg a week isn't going to bring you much higher. Everyone is different but probably in the 450-500 range which really isn't the ideal range to reap all the benefits of trt. That's my opinion.

How old are you?
My level was at 291 when I went on trt at 32
 
80mg a week Jesus Christ.. I won’t settle for anything less than 200.. I mean you probably got a conservative ass doctor but still.
 
Codybenz said:
25.00 for how long?

I'm sure he will get it figured out and I'm no doctor, but if I had to guess, once your own production is suppressed by the exogenous testesterone, 80mg a week isn't going to bring you much higher. Everyone is different but probably in the 450-500 range which really isn't the ideal range to reap all the benefits of trt. That's my opinion.

How old are you?
My level was at 291 when I went on trt at 32
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I’m 23, levels have been that way for awhile now. I’m on this for 5 weeks before blood work and a dosage raise. I think 474ng/dL is the highest my levels have ever been.
 
80mg a week Jesus Christ.. I won’t settle for anything less than 200.. I mean you probably got a conservative ass doctor but still.
 
bradleyt1 said:
80mg a week Jesus Christ.. I won’t settle for anything less than 200.. I mean you probably got a conservative ass doctor but still.
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Not really, he wants to get my levels a little over 1000ng/dL but wants to go up little by little. He really isn’t a bad doctor, he’s one of the only ones to listen to me due to my age.
 
900-1000is a good trt number. 80 a week is not going to get you there lol. But if he is a good doc you will be happy. All things considered there is nothing wrong with being conservative
 
Codybenz said:
900-1000is a good trt number. 80 a week is not going to get you there lol. But if he is a good doc you will be happy. All things considered there is nothing wrong with being conservative
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He said as long as I don’t go over 1100 for several labs I will be good. He said he’d be required to lower my dose then. He’s kinda a weird guy but he’s smart and listens so I can do weird lol.
 
80mg is definitely a lower starting point, but I’m sure he’ll bump your dosage once you get the bloodwork done.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
80mg is definitely a lower starting point, but I’m sure he’ll bump your dosage once you get the bloodwork done.
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I wonder what my labs will be like on this dose. At 300ng/dL I feel like crap, hell in my 400’s I don’t feel much better though. I think the best I’ve ever felt was in my late teens but idk what my levels were then. Hoping I’ll at least feel a little better over the next couple weeks. Think 80mg could get me in the 400-500 range?
 
Brain5ick said:
I wonder what my labs will be like on this dose. At 300ng/dL I feel like crap, hell in my 400’s I don’t feel much better though. I think the best I’ve ever felt was in my late teens but idk what my levels were then. Hoping I’ll at least feel a little better over the next couple weeks. Think 80mg could get me in the 400-500 range?
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Hang in there brother. Sounds like the Dr is committed to getting your levels in order.
 
Does he have you on hcg too? Surely at age 23 you’ll want to preserve your fertility.
 
The Express 42 said:
Does he have you on hcg too? Surely at age 23 you’ll want to preserve your fertility.
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We’ve talked about HCG and he wants to put me on it after we get my test dosage figured out. He said it’s possible HCG could interfere with my labs so he didn’t want to start it from the get go.
 
Nac said:
Sounds so far like you got yourself a good doc, bro.
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I agree... Look it up males produce an average of 4-7 mg/day of testosterone. Thats 50mg/week top end. With a cyp injection of 80mg your body will probably get about 70 which is still higher than what the body produces naturally.

This doctor seems to know what hes doing and I'm sure he'll get you feeling good which is what trt is really about. Not how much test the doc is giving me. More isnt better necessarily. Some guys get dialed in (feeling their best) on 70-80mg/week.
 
So this is the day after my first shot and good lord am I tired!!! Didn’t sleep well last night, but no worse than any other night. Today I’m absolutely exhausted dude, it’s ridiculous. Had some caffeine through the day but that just kinda raised my heart rate lol. A few people have told me that the day after my shot I could end up pretty tired and I should use it as a rest day because my body will be getting used to the new hormones. I wanted to go lift today but I feel so drained of energy all over. I felt pretty tired after my shot yesterday but still lifted. Anyone else have this or could add some insight?
 
Brain5ick said:
So this is the day after my first shot and good lord am I tired!!! Didn’t sleep well last night, but no worse than any other night. Today I’m absolutely exhausted dude, it’s ridiculous. Had some caffeine through the day but that just kinda raised my heart rate lol. A few people have told me that the day after my shot I could end up pretty tired and I should use it as a rest day because my body will be getting used to the new hormones. I wanted to go lift today but I feel so drained of energy all over. I felt pretty tired after my shot yesterday but still lifted. Anyone else have this or could add some insight?
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Hmmmm.....
In for responses.
 
Brain5ick said:
So this is the day after my first shot and good lord am I tired!!! Didn’t sleep well last night, but no worse than any other night. Today I’m absolutely exhausted dude, it’s ridiculous. Had some caffeine through the day but that just kinda raised my heart rate lol. A few people have told me that the day after my shot I could end up pretty tired and I should use it as a rest day because my body will be getting used to the new hormones. I wanted to go lift today but I feel so drained of energy all over. I felt pretty tired after my shot yesterday but still lifted. Anyone else have this or could add some insight?
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Just curious what are your estrogen numbers look like
 
Brain5ick said:
I wonder what my labs will be like on this dose. At 300ng/dL I feel like crap, hell in my 400’s I don’t feel much better though. I think the best I’ve ever felt was in my late teens but idk what my levels were then. Hoping I’ll at least feel a little better over the next couple weeks. Think 80mg could get me in the 400-500 range?
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Probably around 500-800ng/dl at peak plasma levels. Everyone is different though.
 
I wanna throw this out there, I had a pretty ****ty experience with a high dose of test before at 240mg not really knowing what I was doing and I’ll be the first to admit that. Day after I felt like 110% dog shyt! Very anxious and depressed and BEYOND tired. A day or two later I felt better than I’ve ever felt in my life though. Me and my doc talked and he said it’s possible my shot quickly aromatized and I experienced very high estrogen sides but after a couple days my body got used to the levels my test would be at and that’s why I felt so good. Maybe I’m just having estro sides or something? Really just tired this time around. Maybe not so much tomorrow I hope. I’ll keep everyone posted.
 
Codybenz said:
I personally have not experienced this
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It was extremely odd, I still don’t have a real answer for why it happened. It was gym labs which others have vouched for. I’ve ran other compounds and not had this effect but I had not done test yet.
 
Brain5ick said:
I wanna throw this out there, I had a pretty ****ty experience with a high dose of test before at 240mg not really knowing what I was doing and I’ll be the first to admit that. Day after I felt like 110% dog shyt! Very anxious and depressed and BEYOND tired. A day or two later I felt better than I’ve ever felt in my life though. Me and my doc talked and he said it’s possible my shot quickly aromatized and I experienced very high estrogen sides but after a couple days my body got used to the levels my test would be at and that’s why I felt so good. Maybe I’m just having estro sides or something? Really just tired this time around. Maybe not so much tomorrow I hope. I’ll keep everyone posted.
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That's what I was getting at bro... You're estrogen could have been high before you even started the test which was making you feel lousy and then adding the testosterone which is only going to aromatize into more estrogen is making you feel extremely tired which is a side effect of high estrogen. It's a possibility that's why I asked what your numbers were saying. Where test could be great but if estrogen is not dialed in it's going to produce a lot of problems as well and is almost equally as important as addressing the testosterone issue imo.
 
I’m very prone to depression when it comes to PEDs, except for Ostarine really, that **** makes me feel awesome haha but this isn’t for performance enhancing effect, just to be clear. I’ll call my doc tomorrow and see if I can get bloods done then, they have a lab in the clinic.
 
step one, get a BP monitor

step two, lower it.

step three take supps such as curcumin, olive leaf, garlic, lecithin, fish oil to reduce chance of clogged arteries from thicker blood and clotting

step four, give blood.
 
Your body could be getting used to the new hormones in your body, a day after my first pin I could barely keep my eyes open, but that also may have been estrogenic sides as well. I am a day after my second pin and I feel great, taking 1mg arimidex eod to take care of estrogen.

Give yourself time to adjust
 
My levels are right at 1000 NG/DL on 100mg a week of test cyp. Hovering around 200 lbs. I think a person's size (blood volume) has a lot to do with how much test they need. The more blood you have the more the injected hormone will be diluted. Ya know.
 
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