PREP FOR NEXT CYCLE.

KingAnt

KingAnt

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Hey guys I'm a few months from starting my next cycle. But would like to begin planning and acquiring everything necessary. Looking for advice, opinions and ideas.
I'm going for a bulk and I'm pretty set on DMZ. although, I'm gonna want a test base for the dmz and I'm not sure if I should go 4-andro, dermacrine or learn how to pin. I do have a Lil over half a bottle of mandro the giant left over from last cycle. So I may go that route. I also have 2 unopened bottle of chemical one. Should I run 1-4 andro and DMZ cycle?
PCT will likely consist of nolva 40/40/20/20 with exem 6.25 EOD
I'm also thinking about running nolva on cycle at 10 EOD. opinions on that ?
Would like to keep the nuts running a bit but mostly to avoid estro from attaching to breast tissue.
stats ,
Age 25
Weight 165
Height 5"11
Bf: calipers say 9% but they are kinda cheap so ima call it 12-13%.
Currently on a cut.
Cycle history: 1 cycle (1-4andro)
Pct: nolva 40/40/20/20/20
Lifting for a while now. Been serious about muscle/weight gain for about 3-4 years.
Diet on point. Very clean. Chicken and rice is cheap and works good for me and my body. Lots of veggies, fruit , yogurt, over all very healthy diet.
Feel free to ask questions and submit opinions.
I'll also prob be running inhibit P and some sort of cycle support (prob sns) and tudca during cycle.
Right now I'm stocking up on food for the bulk. Not purchasing anything for cycle till I get some opinions.
Oh I'll prob be eating at a 1000-2000 calorie surplus. Havnt decided. Maybe I'll split the difference and do 1500 surplus for a total of 3500 per day. I maintain body weight pretty good on about 1500 cal per day. So an extra 1500-2000 should do me good.
Well let me know what you guys think.
I'm not starting anytime soon. And I will be getting bloods pre,during and post cycle.
 
I would recommend just going with test if you can find it. I was trying to find a decent test base to go with my next PH cycle, and most of them have mixed reviews and are more expensive than actual test. Sucks cause I keep the anabolics away from the GF so I'm not trying to have needles laying around in my house, but IMO it's the only way to go. It's cheaper, more reliable results, and less toxic on your body.


Good luck man
 
There is always trest! However I know you were on a few things to take care of gyno. Did you get that cleared up yet?
 
Having started with oral bases (used 4-Andro and trest) plus having a massive fear of needles, now I’m pinning it’s much much better.

4-Andro got me through a cycle (1-Andro and epiandro) but the lethargy was there for sure. Way more than trest or test so I’m not sure it’s gonna cut it for dmz.

Trest I loved but it comes with its own issues obviously.

Learning to pin would 100% be my suggestion just based on my own experience. Genuinely way easier than I thought it would be.

Your considering all the right things though bro, I’m sure you’ll have a great run whichever way you go.

One thing though - why the inhibit p? You have prolactin issues normally?
 
boooosted said:
There is always trest! However I know you were on a few things to take care of gyno. Did you get that cleared up yet?
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Yea for the most part. My nips are still puffy. But seems like they are puffy for shorter time periods and harder for longer. If I eat like **** or drink alcohol they get bad again for the next day or two. I don't really understand it and no one else seems to either. I hope when I explain my sides it sounds clear to everyone.
 
Whisky said:
Having started with oral bases (used 4-Andro and trest) plus having a massive fear of needles, now I’m pinning it’s much much better.

4-Andro got me through a cycle (1-Andro and epiandro) but the lethargy was there for sure. Way more than trest or test so I’m not sure it’s gonna cut it for dmz.

Trest I loved but it comes with its own issues obviously.

Learning to pin would 100% be my suggestion just based on my own experience. Genuinely way easier than I thought it would be.

Your considering all the right things though bro, I’m sure you’ll have a great run whichever way you go.

One thing though - why the inhibit p? You have prolactin issues normally?
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Yeah I might do that. Yeah my last( first ) cycle made my nips puffy. And small masses behind and to the side of nipple. The masses could have already been there, I'm not sure cuz I've never paid that close attention to my nips before. One thing is forsure and that's that they have never been puffy/swollen looking like this ever. I think I may be prolactin/gyno sensitive. But I dont know forsure
 
Yeah so you probably don't want to mess with trest. And really if starting to pin is an option you're going to want to just run a straight test cycle not use it as a base for DMZ on your first run. Good idea getting your cycle in order ahead of time, but your mind can always change so don;t order too far ahead. I have so many different compounds and supplements that I bought planning to run months later but changed my mind for something else now it's all just sitting there a waste of money.
 
boooosted said:
Yeah so you probably don't want to mess with trest. And really if starting to pin is an option you're going to want to just run a straight test cycle not use it as a base for DMZ on your first run. Good idea getting your cycle in order ahead of time, but your mind can always change so don;t order too far ahead. I have so many different compounds and supplements that I bought planning to run months later but changed my mind for something else now it's all just sitting there a waste of money.
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Haha that's why I got 2 unopened bottles of 1-andro. Definetly gonna take my time with this and do it right. Pinning is kinda an option. I've been researching and considering it highly but I'm not totally comfortable with the idea yet. Just kinda a big step for me. I'd definetly need your guy's help with all that.
 
Ok I think I'm gonna put off pinning until the start of the new year when I can get signed up with insurance through my work. Just in case anything goes wrong. I'm thinking my bulking cycle will consist of 1-andro 220-330ED( havnt decided yet), 4- andro 110ED ( just as a test base ), and DMZ 30ED. I'll be running an AI and nolva on cycle. Cycle will be 6-8 weeks long in total. Not including PCT.
What do you guys think of the doses?

This will be my second cycle. My first cycle was an all andro cycle. I figured i kinda want to get a good idea to how my body reacts to these more mild compounds before anything else.
 
KingAnt said:
Ok I think I'm gonna put off pinning until the start of the new year when I can get signed up with insurance through my work. Just in case anything goes wrong. I'm thinking my bulking cycle will consist of 1-andro 220-330ED( havnt decided yet), 4- andro 110ED ( just as a test base ), and DMZ 30ED. I'll be running an AI and nolva on cycle. Cycle will be 6-8 weeks long in total. Not including PCT.
What do you guys think of the doses?

This will be my second cycle. My first cycle was an all andro cycle. I figured i kinda want to get a good idea to how my body reacts to these more mild compounds before anything else.
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4-andro at 110 will do nothing imo bro. For me it was only just enough at 340 plus I was running epiandro as well......
 
There is always torem for A test base of sorts and helping HTPA recover much easier. Instead of dermacrine, etc
 
Ok guys its been a bit cuz I got a new phone and I never wrote down my password n all that for the forum but I finally got it.
Anyways. I'm gonna run
255mg 4-andro
220mg 1-andro
45mg dmz
Every day
Nolva and exem EOD
Along with tudca, cel cycle assist , fish oil, glucosamine, and inhibit p every day..
4k calories a day. Im going for a bulk. I know the andro doses are low and I'm tempted to buy more and up it. But at the same time this is my first dmz cycle and im second cycle ever so I kinda wanna resist the temptation. What you guys think?
Obviously a proper pct will follow
 
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