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PH for beginners

Ragnaarook

Ragnaarook

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What would you say is the best ph for a first time ph user.
It most be liquid and should be able to buy on predator nutrition or any other in/eu site.
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My first REAL cycle was trest and epistane. It was my best cycle and I experienced very little side effects. These days most would consider trest a compound for advanced users only. I say you research different compounds, learn how to run them safely and go for it. Your first cycle should be your most productive, so make it count.

Beginner, intermediate or advanced I think DMZ, torem and a good supplement like cycle assist would be a good cycle for most. Start at a moderate dose and increase dosage until sides become an issue.

Halodrol or TBOL would be milder compounds that should work well too.
 
Nanodrol was great, but it is a bit harsher on the organs. Epistane is also great, but I found myself to get more side effects from epistane, despite the general consensus of it being milder.
 
RickyBlobby said:
My first REAL cycle was trest and epistane. It was my best cycle and I experienced very little side effects. These days most would consider trest a compound for advanced users only. I say you research different compounds, learn how to run them safely and go for it. Your first cycle should be your most productive, so make it count.

Beginner, intermediate or advanced I think DMZ, torem and a good supplement like cycle assist would be a good cycle for most. Start at a moderate dose and increase dosage until sides become an issue.

Halodrol or TBOL would be milder compounds that should work well too.
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I’m going with one of these suggestions. Probably trest as a base and tbol at a moderate dose. You think that’s a cycle where I could lean bulk and maintain close to 10 lbs of lbm after pct? I know a lot of factors play into that. Maybe DMZ would be smarter than tbol.
 
YoungThor said:
I’m going with one of these suggestions. Probably trest as a base and tbol at a moderate dose. You think that’s a cycle where I could lean bulk and maintain close to 10 lbs of lbm after pct? I know a lot of factors play into that. Maybe DMZ would be smarter than tbol.
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Both Tbol and DMZ require TUDCA and NAC and cycle support with lots of hydrating.

DMZ is a strong one, I also started with it. Have not done Tbol but hear good things, but it is also methylated oral, same liver stress to manage.
 
I would use the Fusion Nano 1T and Androtest as a stack together. Good ol 1-Test and 4AD, ran that basic combo of chems many moons ago in high school. Much less harsh than a methylated steroid, and so you can take them for longer (that's a good thing.)
 
Glad to see some helpful ideas.
 
YoungThor said:
I’m going with one of these suggestions. Probably trest as a base and tbol at a moderate dose. You think that’s a cycle where I could lean bulk and maintain close to 10 lbs of lbm after pct? I know a lot of factors play into that. Maybe DMZ would be smarter than tbol.
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I think DMZ would be better for mass but harsher on your body if you are sensitive to side effects in general.
 
These guys have you covered... Just make sure you've got your supports and pct all lined up and you'll be good to go. CEL is usually my go-to for anything cycle support and OTC PCT related (M-Test/Cycle Assist/TUDCA/PCT Assist/etc)
 
Old Witch said:
I would use the Fusion Nano 1T and Androtest as a stack together. Good ol 1-Test and 4AD, ran that basic combo of chems many moons ago in high school. Much less harsh than a methylated steroid, and so you can take them for longer (that's a good thing.)
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For a first run, an 8 week Andro cycle is a great option. 1 & 4 plus some epiandro, or 1 & 19 with some androsterone for the more daring. You could even layer in a SARM safely but you will be further complicating things.
 
Hyde said:
For a first run, an 8 week Andro cycle is a great option. 1 & 4 plus some epiandro, or 1 & 19 with some androsterone for the more daring. You could even layer in a SARM safely but you will be further complicating things.
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That would be ok but, actual 1-T and 4AD is definitely better. That Fusion brand if good stuff, a bit pricey.
 
Old Witch said:
That would be ok but, actual 1-T and 4AD is definitely better. That Fusion brand if good stuff, a bit pricey.
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Oh I assumed they were the same thing - yes I definitely agree with you if they’re a conversion step ahead! Worth the extra coin easily if so.
 
I will do my first ph cycle soon in a few weeks. I’ve decided to go with this one
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As I like both Lgd and mk and it has a pretty good prohormone.

I’m getting pct ready too
 
Ragnaarook said:
I will do my first ph cycle soon in a few weeks. I’ve decided to go with this one
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As I like both Lgd and mk and it has a pretty good prohormone.

I’m getting pct ready too
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Msten.
 
Ragnaarook said:
Yes? Maybe I’m all gone here but isn’t that a prohormone I think nano has it
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No, it was more of a public comment on what you're taking. Yes it is the active steroid in Nano. It is an orally active steroid.

Have you decided on dosage? If you are thinking of using a higher dose, just be aware that Msten can come with some sides.
 
Renew1 said:
No, it was more of a public comment on what you're taking. Yes it is the active steroid in Nano. It is an orally active steroid.

Have you decided on dosage? If you are thinking of using a higher dose, just be aware that Msten can come with some sides.
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Alright, yes I will start with 1ml a day so that will be 15mg of msten a day, I will do that for about 2-3 and if I feel the need to I will increase the dose but I think 15 should be enough
 
You gonna do a serm on cycle?
 
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