Cycle critique

Bigmatt57

Bigmatt57

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Thinking about running my next cycle November 1st, I’ve ran epistane and I’ve also ran 1-Andro before, this is what I’m thinking. I will be recomping with this cycle.

Cycle:
Weeks 1-2 (Dmz 20mg ED and M1A 20mg ED)
Weeks 2-3 (Dmz 20mg ED and M1A 20mg ED and 300mg 4-Andro ED)
Weeks 3-4 (Dmz 20mg ED and M1A 20mg ED and 4-Andro 300mg ED and Msten 15mg ED
Weeks 4-6 (4-Andro 300mg ED and Msten 15mg ED


Cycle support
Rich Piana liver and organ
Tudca
Fish oil
Coq10
Etc

Pct
Nolvadex
30/30/20/10
OL super PCT

What do you guys think of this, am I running to much sh1t or does it look good.
 
personally, 3 methyls in 6 weeks is just not necessary. Either run your msten + M1A or run DMZ + M1A. I just don't think your going to add much to your cycle running it like you have outlined.(Your still going to gain) Also, you can run any combo of 2 of those you listed and be great....I am just a huge fan of M1A. Put on a lot of size with that stuff in 5 weeks. Also...start that 4 andro a week or better yet 2 weeks before your other DS. It takes a while to kick in and the whole idea is to use it to prevent side effects from the methyl compounds. You will want it in full force because those DS kick hard and fast!
 
bigbeaph said:
personally, 3 methyls in 6 weeks is just not necessary. Either run your msten + M1A or run DMZ + M1A. I just don't think your going to add much to your cycle running it like you have outlined.(Your still going to gain) Also, you can run any combo of 2 of those you listed and be great....I am just a huge fan of M1A. Put on a lot of size with that stuff in 5 weeks. Also...start that 4 andro a week or better yet 2 weeks before your other DS. It takes a while to kick in and the whole idea is to use it to prevent side effects from the methyl compounds. You will want it in full force because those DS kick hard and fast!
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So would you say this would be a better/safer alternative

Weeks 1-2 4-Andro 300mg
Weeks 2-6 4-Andro 300mg+Dmz 20mg and M1A 20mg
 
Bigmatt57 said:
So would you say this would be a better/safer alternative

Weeks 1-2 4-Andro 300mg
Weeks 2-6 4-Andro 300mg+Dmz 20mg and M1A 20mg
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Safer, yes...but I'm not saying your other plan was going to hurt you. But simply running 2 methyl compounds as opposed to 3 is safer. I think this way you can save the other compound for another run. IME adding a 3rd just isn't going to generate much more than 2, and it will add more stress to your body. I think You'll get a lot out of that plan.
 
If you gonna stack orals make sure you dose it properly. Example anadrol 50mg solo and if stacking with var you could go 25mg each or something. Dosage is more important than the compounds
 
Chados said:
If you gonna stack orals make sure you dose it properly. Example anadrol 50mg solo and if stacking with var you could go 25mg each or something. Dosage is more important than the compounds
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Those are lower doses, but appropriate doses if your going to run those 2 together, correct? I really stick to 1 methyl at a time - dont want to give bad advice. Would you bump it to say 30/30?
 
Chados said:
If you gonna stack orals make sure you dose it properly. Example anadrol 50mg solo and if stacking with var you could go 25mg each or something. Dosage is more important than the compounds
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Those are lower doses, but appropriate doses if your going to run those 2 together, correct? I really stick to 1 methyl at a time - dont want to give bad advice. Would you bump it to say 30/30?
 
bigbeaph said:
Those are lower doses, but appropriate doses if your going to run those 2 together, correct? I really stick to 1 methyl at a time - dont want to give bad advice. Would you bump it to say 30/30?
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I don't have the exact dosage in my head with these compounds. If you want to be more safe you can go half on each compound instead of the original dose.
 
Chados said:
If you gonna stack orals make sure you dose it properly. Example anadrol 50mg solo and if stacking with var you could go 25mg each or something. Dosage is more important than the compounds
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Those are lower doses, but appropriate doses if your going to run those 2 together, correct? I really stick to 1 methyl at a time - dont want to give bad advice. Would you bump it to say 30/30?
 
bigbeaph said:
Those are lower doses, but appropriate doses if your going to run those 2 together, correct? I really stick to 1 methyl at a time - dont want to give bad advice. Would you bump it to say 30/30?
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Im not sure how much more gains one would make by adding more to a 4 week cycle. I would probably advise you to go with the lower range, not because you can bump it but because I don't see much more gains during that time.
 
Chados said:
Im not sure how much more gains one would make by adding more to a 4 week cycle. I would probably advise you to go with the lower range, not because you can bump it but because I don't see much more gains during that time.
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I believe m1a is usually run at 30-45 and guys run dmz from 30-60. Kinda why I thought his 20/20 was a good starting spot.
 
I really want to run a 6 week cycle becuase imo 4 weeks is just not enough for a oral cycle, What would you guys think of this,
Week 1-4 (4-Andro 300mg, DMZ 20mg M1A 20mg)
Weeks 4-6 ( DMZ 30mg 4-Andro 300mg)
 
Bigmatt57 said:
I really want to run a 6 week cycle becuase imo 4 weeks is just not enough for a oral cycle, What would you guys think of this,
Week 1-4 (4-Andro 300mg, DMZ 20mg M1A 20mg)
Weeks 4-6 ( DMZ 30mg 4-Andro 300mg)
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I think your first option seems good
 
Chados said:
I think your first option seems good
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^^^there is your answer
You should see some really good results @ 4 weeks with these. I put on about 17 lbs. With 4.5 weeks of m1a alone
 
I would use transdermal trest as a base and do a more aggressive PCT.

But I’m a trest fiend so take it for what it’s worth
 
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