Mast e vs prop
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Chados
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4-800 depending on how lean you are and how much muscle. Pinning is the same as with any other aas. I think if it's for pure aesthetics there are better ones out there for a cheaper price. I like to add it if I mix with something like tren and because I feel good on it but I would never run it alone with test cause it doesn't add much to the cycle
Ester doesn't matter Much to me but theoretically you'd rather run a short one as a finisher. Longer esters are more anabolic and can hold more water. Mast doesn't add water and doesn't add muscles so who cares haha
Ester doesn't matter Much to me but theoretically you'd rather run a short one as a finisher. Longer esters are more anabolic and can hold more water. Mast doesn't add water and doesn't add muscles so who cares haha
Jinsun
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Hahaha
Yeah, Ive never tried mast so am curious about first hand experiences with p and e. I would rather pinn e as it's less hassle...
As for my cycle; I am finishing a cutting cycle:
150 test p, 50 var, 75 viron. I really like the mental effects of viron at 75mg. I have low dht normally and I see now that this is what's been missing from my life, not antidepressants but dht haha
Am wondering what would be the difference between viron and mast. Would probably up the dose of mast to 600... looking for a bit more nutrient partitioning maybe and a bit more strenght. Also have a shoot for a magazine so some extra hardness would be welcomed but if it wont do much more than viron then who cares. But still I am curious for future cycles...
Matthersby
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Knowing what I do now, PCT or TRT is my first question.
E is always 2x a week, as little As once a week
P is eod. Or MWF at the least.
I’d probably do more often if it weren’t so wasteful.
E is always 2x a week, as little As once a week
P is eod. Or MWF at the least.
I’d probably do more often if it weren’t so wasteful.
Chados
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It's kinda the same really.. None builds muscle
RickyBlobby
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Same compound. Only difference is how fast it kicks in and how often you want to inject. Your call brotha.
If it was me I would pin mast E while kickstarting with proviron the first 5 weeks. It’s all DHT Holmes.
If it was me I would pin mast E while kickstarting with proviron the first 5 weeks. It’s all DHT Holmes.
Jinsun
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Haha
You sure about the 5 weeks kickstart? That seems a lot. I swear that I started feeling mentally better from it after a couple of days.
Chados
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Yeah proviron is just a hardener. It's probably better as a finisher and it seems to work during pct without causing shutdown at low dosage like 25mg. Not sure it's worth using in the beginning since it really doesn't do **** in terms of muscle
Old Witch
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I like all my AAS as long estered as I can get them. Mast E is great for guarding against certain other compounds' side effects. It is an estrogen and progesterone receptor blocker. If you take a 19 nor (like Tren or Trest or Deca) and don't want to mess around with ralox or anything like that then you can add Masteron instead. This way you avoid the chain of hormonal events which cause prolactin release and gyno, as well as any other elevated estrogen related side effects (rage, ED, High BP) Still need your AI though, arimidex or aromasin, because Mast only blocks receptors, it does not prevent conversion.
A little known fact about 19 nor AAS is they also activate the estrogen and progesterone receptors all on their own, so Masteron will also block them from doing so.
Hope any of this helps.
A little known fact about 19 nor AAS is they also activate the estrogen and progesterone receptors all on their own, so Masteron will also block them from doing so.
Hope any of this helps.
RickyBlobby
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I’m just not a fan of waiting for weeks to feel my compounds. That’s why I recommended Proviron As a kicker. Maybe five weeks is a little excessive though, four may be more realistic for the mast to kick in fully.
Or, get some primo with an anavar or Tbol kicker and put on muscles while you look amazing.
Or, get some primo with an anavar or Tbol kicker and put on muscles while you look amazing.
Jinsun
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Well it helped me with enhancing the general feeling of wellbeing. Also it does lower shbg which tends to go up in pct and it isn't suppressive to a lot higher dose then just 25mg... I'm going into pct 2 days from now and will continue with viron. We'll see what the bloods show
Tnx mate, great info! Will never probably take 19nor's, but still good to know! Will look it up a bit further.
Primo, anavar... expensive cycle
My next cycle will be in the winter. Probably test at 250, eq 600, dbol at 30 kick start 4 weeks. Also might add tbol for the last 6 weeks but don't think I'll need it. I love dbol at small dosages. Higher than that I become a jerk haha Also it's cheap and not faked...Cycle. My natural test is still at upper lab ranges... Low test at 150 is bc I am mentally more stable at a 150 - 250 dose then let's say 500.
Chados
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Well it helped me with enhancing the general feeling of wellbeing. Also it does lower shbg which tends to go up in pct and it isn't suppressive to a lot higher dose then just 25mg... I'm going into pct 2 days from now and will continue with viron. We'll see what the bloods show
That would be nice.. I've never tried it myself but I can see how it would help a lot during pct.