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Rk403

Rk403

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Started a cycle about 5 week ago.

It started out like this tren e and test e for 3 weeks 1ml each E3D.
At 3rd week I added 30 mg Tbol and dbol ED, and clomid 50mg ED for 10 days then stopped.
End of 4th week I added Super test 450 1ml, combined with test e and tren e 1ml each.

I am at the end of my tren and test e, but am curious if I should add deca for the remained of Super test 450 to minimize the intense PIP?

I can handle the pain but I also don’t like feeling immobilized..

This only happeneds when I pin either of my quads, my glutes can handle the PIP, just not the legs.

I also was told and read in many places I should only run for 6 weeks, or, 8,10,12
But also to run test 2 weeks past everything.
I don’t seen anything wrong with running extended on slow esters..?

I feel great, other than some mild growing pains in odd places, but, overall I think I’m good to keep running for another 6 weeks..

Then run a heavy PCT with HCG every week.
Arimidex
Nolvadex
Clomid
Letrozole
Aromasin

All at appropriate dosage.

Any advice is appreciated.
 
The pip is because of the rediculous test 450, I don't like anything over 300mg/ml. It's always painfull I I have a hard time believing it's dosed properly. 5 weeks on tren e was probably a waste, should have used a short ester. Hcg you should use last few weeks of the cycle, then run your serms after. Not sure why you added tbol with dbol and Clomid and for such a short time. Just seems your taking a bunch of random gear with no rhyme or reason. Is this your first cycle???
 
Smont said:
The pip is because of the rediculous test 450, I don't like anything over 300mg/ml. It's always painfull I I have a hard time believing it's dosed properly. 5 weeks on tren e was probably a waste, should have used a short ester. Hcg you should use last few weeks of the cycle, then run your serms after. Not sure why you added tbol with dbol and Clomid and for such a short time. Just seems your taking a bunch of random gear with no rhyme or reason. Is this your first cycle???
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No not my first, and I am still taking Tbol and dbol together. Again mixed reviews on that. But why not, dry and wet, best of both...

The pip I know is from the high mg per ml, but don’t want to just through it out.. deca as cutter? 3ml added to about 7ml Super?
But don’t run the deca.

I added clomid as I was getting concerned with nipple(Gyno) possibly. Research suggested that I should run clomid to address any concerns.
I did just that and haven’t had any problems since.

Isn’t short esters the main reason a lot of people get bad sides?

I like Enanthate it works for me.

I will add My first cycle was a bunch of random **** slapped together in prison.

I did more research since then.

Thanks for advice on HCG.
I’ll make sure to run it before the end of my cycle!
 
Smont said:
The pip is because of the rediculous test 450, I don't like anything over 300mg/ml. It's always painfull I I have a hard time believing it's dosed properly. 5 weeks on tren e was probably a waste, should have used a short ester. Hcg you should use last few weeks of the cycle, then run your serms after. Not sure why you added tbol with dbol and Clomid and for such a short time. Just seems your taking a bunch of random gear with no rhyme or reason. Is this your first cycle???
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I second this. You could do dbol for 4 weeks at the start, take a break from orals and finish with 4 weeks of tbol. Wet in the beginning and dry at the end. Really though if this is your first cycle test was enough, and test/tren is definitely enough. Do 8 weeks of tren and 12-16 weeks of test. Don’t add anything else
 
Rk403 said:
No not my first, and I am still taking Tbol and dbol together. Again mixed reviews on that. But why not, dry and wet, best of both...

The pip I know is from the high mg per ml, but don’t want to just through it out.. deca as cutter? 3ml added to about 7ml Super?
But don’t run the deca.

I added clomid as I was getting concerned with nipple(Gyno) possibly. Research suggested that I should run clomid to address any concerns.
I did just that and haven’t had any problems since.

Isn’t short esters the main reason a lot of people get bad sides?

I like Enanthate it works for me.

I will add My first cycle was a bunch of random **** slapped together in prison.

I did more research since then.

Thanks for advice on HCG.
I’ll make sure to run it before the end of my cycle!
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No ester gets more sides for the most part, with short esters the sides go away faster. And no long ester is going to do anything in 4-5 weeks
 
Smont said:
No ester gets more sides for the most part, with short esters the sides go away faster. And no long ester is going to do anything in 4-5 weeks
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Ok cool thanks for that info.
I’m not having any problems with sides, other than night sweats. Just more being cautious for taking clomid. But also reviewed on that running clomid through isn’t such a bad idea.

So again, what would you suggest I run for 12 weeks?
 
edsd said:
I second this. You could do dbol for 4 weeks at the start, take a break from orals and finish with 4 weeks of tbol. Wet in the beginning and dry at the end. Really though if this is your first cycle test was enough, and test/tren is definitely enough. Do 8 weeks of tren and 12-16 weeks of test. Don’t add anything else
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Cool thanks!
Not my first run, but I like that idea for next run. If I do orals.
My first run I ran a lot more than what I’m taking currently. Pin and orals. Just didn’t record anything.
 
Just to clear this up the PIP from the supertest is probably due to the amount of esters. Whenever I shoot sust 350 it hurts going in and sore for a few days. With single ester compounds I don't get any of that
 
Also I can run a long ester compund (deca,trenhex) and start seeing results week 2. The steroid starts working immediately post injection
 
Bintherduntht said:
Also I can run a long ester compund (deca,trenhex) and start seeing results week 2. The steroid starts working immediately post injection
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I understand that, I just can't see much of any benifit to running a long ester for 4-5 weeks. So you feel it week 2 and drop it week 4 or 5, how much real muscle do you think that tren built in 2-3 weeks.
 
How about you quit pining the quads?
Fukin stupid place to pin. And dangerous!

Also I agree with who ever said this looks like a sh17 show of a cycle..

Were are you getting your research?
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
How about you quit pining the quads?
Fukin stupid place to pin. And dangerous!

Also I agree with who ever said this looks like a sh17 show of a cycle..

Were are you getting your research?
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Why’s that? I rotate 4 sites now, started with 2.
Quads were the easiest. And it’s what I know from the past. Glutes and quads.

Thanks, but I don’t see what’s wrong with it. Only thing is I should have started earlier on dbol saved the Tbol till the end. As someone mentioned.

Places just like this man, I read, I research the compounds, see if people use the same combo’s.

Where else?
 
Have a look into the books on the subject
Especially William lewellyn anabolics 10th edition or higher. Be safe and stop pinning you're quads brother.. just alternate ass cheeks and shoulders from time to time.
 
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