High sensitivity to aromasin?

[HeavierPlease]

So, I'm about 3 weeks into my 1st cycle, Test e only. Pretty sure I've started to crash my E levels at 12.5 mg on pin days, so I back off the AI for a week, then went back on at 6.25. Felt good at first but then ****ty again. I also noticed my veins are far less pronounced than usual and low E causes vasoconstriction. Could it just be high sensitivity? Like would taking it once a week be wise? I get bloods in a week, but just kind of curious if this is semi common amongst you all on here? I also have nolva and read some people just use that on cycle for E control

 

[YoungThor]

Don’t take it at all if you’re not experiencing symptoms of high estrogen.

 

[HeavierPlease]

Don’t take it at all if you’re not experiencing symptoms of high estrogen.

Got it. Yeah, I've read that, and also read others saying start with 1st pin and some say wait til a week in. I was paranoid about gyno so I started with 1st pin but that low E freaking sucks.

 

[YamahaC76]

Dude maybe it's subjective but gyno is pretty easy to calm if you have raloxifine and aromasin. I just got my bloods and have been using aromasin and my E2 is low which is only a range of .1 - .6 so I was having LOW estrogen mood problems, not high. The stuff works, if you have the high estrogen symptoms or notice a bit of swelling of the tissue, use ralox and aromasin, should clear it up in a week. This was my experience and I had about 2-3 flair ups on cycle.

 

[bigbeaph]

Dude maybe it's subjective but gyno is pretty easy to calm if you have raloxifine and aromasin. I just got my bloods and have been using aromasin and my E2 is low which is only a range of .1 - .6 so I was having LOW estrogen mood problems, not high. The stuff works, if you have the high estrogen symptoms or notice a bit of swelling of the tissue, use ralox and aromasin, should clear it up in a week. This was my experience and I had about 2-3 flair ups on cycle.

I have yet to try raloxifene, but have always been a nolvadex user. I am VERY gyno sensitive as well. Your not going to wake up one morning and have some sore funbags popping out of your chest. Sounds like you've done your reading - look for the symptoms and then throw in your ai and serm. Not sure how much test you are running but plenty of guys run a good amount and dont need any ai. Then theres guys like myself that can keep my estro at 10-12 and still get sore nips and need my nolva. Only way to find your dose really is trial and error.

 

[HeavierPlease]

Dude maybe it's subjective but gyno is pretty easy to calm if you have raloxifine and aromasin. I just got my bloods and have been using aromasin and my E2 is low which is only a range of .1 - .6 so I was having LOW estrogen mood problems, not high. The stuff works, if you have the high estrogen symptoms or notice a bit of swelling of the tissue, use ralox and aromasin, should clear it up in a week. This was my experience and I had about 2-3 flair ups on cycle.

Thanks man. I've never heard of raloxifene til now, so I'll proceed to read about it. I have nolva, so idk if that's comparable or not in terms of effectiveness. I've read a lot of people use it to mediate the symptoms with an AI of course. Makes a lot of sense to go about the way you explained so I'll proceed that way from here on out

 

[HeavierPlease]

I have yet to try raloxifene, but have always been a nolvadex user. I am VERY gyno sensitive as well. Your not going to wake up one morning and have some sore funbags popping out of your chest. Sounds like you've done your reading - look for the symptoms and then throw in your ai and serm. Not sure how much test you are running but plenty of guys run a good amount and dont need any ai. Then theres guys like myself that can keep my estro at 10-12 and still get sore nips and need my nolva. Only way to find your dose really is trial and error.

Haha that's basically how I imagined it going down in all honesty! I'm on 500mg/wk of test e. Gonna add in hcg, about half way through to the end, which I've read can add to the estrogen conversion. Being my first cycle, I have no clue how my body handles the conversion. I've read some people can handle a lot before it gets out bad, and I've read some people, such as yourself it seems, are incredibly prone to high conversion to estrogen.

 

[YamahaC76]

Nolvadex will always work. If it's good that is. However Ralox will work faster as it has a 60% affinity for binding to breast tissue over Nolvadex I believe. They are different. But I would use Ralox as a fire extinguisher for an emergency flair up, and then nolva for maintenence.

In my experience, you should feel a numbing sensation when your SERM/AI combo is working. This was always the case with me followed by a decrease in swelling. I also had a few nodules in a few places, Ralox cleared those as well. As long as you don't wait "too" long, I believe you can calm the tissue and shrink it down. This was the case for me. I seem to respond pretty textbook to these compounds as well.

This is why many tell newcomers to just get everything, just in case. If you're new, you WILL run into issues. And it's not your fault, it's the nature of figuring how you respond, so of course you'll want the tools to handle the situation accordingly.

 

[YamahaC76]

Haha that's basically how I imagined it going down in all honesty! I'm on 500mg/wk of test e. Gonna add in hcg, about half way through to the end, which I've read can add to the estrogen conversion. Being my first cycle, I have no clue how my body handles the conversion. I've read some people can handle a lot before it gets out bad, and I've read some people, such as yourself it seems, are incredibly prone to high conversion to estrogen.

Ill add this as I just saw. If you're adding HCG which is smart imo, id do 250mcg twice a week. And definitely have some Ralox or more AI. HCG actually complicated my cycle with it's estrogen conversion. I generally just needed another small dose of ADEX to treat the excess per week, but I always felt a bit of stimulation in the tissue and would use an AI to calm down. I was on 500mg test and didn't use my AI more than once a week until I added HCG, so take that what you will.

Just keep some nolvadex and ralox on hand if you're noticing some growth and act accordingly.

 

[HeavierPlease]

Ill add this as I just saw. If you're adding HCG which is smart imo, id do 250mcg twice a week. And definitely have some Ralox or more AI. HCG actually complicated my cycle with it's estrogen conversion. I generally just needed another small dose of ADEX to treat the excess per week, but I always felt a bit of stimulation in the tissue and would use an AI to calm down. I was on 500mg test and didn't use my AI more than once a week until I added HCG, so take that what you will.

Just keep some nolvadex and ralox on hand if you're noticing some growth and act accordingly.

Definitely, thank you for the advice! Unfortunately, I don't have access to raloxifene, but I have plenty of nolva and aromasin on hand. Perhaps I should look for som, though. Seems like it'd be a good investment.

 

[cheftepesh1]

Don’t take it at all if you’re not experiencing symptoms of high estrogen.

This is the best advice. There are PH I can't take because it effects my Edema. I avoid now.

 

[cody199477]

Usually test e kicks in at the 4th week mark, for me the end of the fourth week. If your dick is working you haven’t crash your estrogen completely. If you libido is still there it’s probably not even on the low side. At 500mg I would be taking an ai atleast twice a week but that’s just me. I would rather crash my estrogen trying to figure out my body than form gyno, my 2 cents