Plastic surgery and fashion to compliments one's great physique.

What if you become so absolutely beautiful that when you see your reflection in a deep pool of water you fall in love with it and are unable to look away? After days of staring into the water you become frustrated that the reflection can’t love you back, so you jump in and drown yourself?

Have you considered this possibility?
 
No pic in this thread?

Which “Greek God” do you look like?
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But from OP’ post, I think Narcissus would be the most fitting figure from Greek mythology.
 
Thank you for your input about checking with a mental health professional prior to surgery, that does seem like a reasonable preliminary step to take prior to consultation. I think the surgeon was going to ask me to do that anyways due to my age. And for the most part I am doing it for myself. I love aesthetics and symmetry and I want my body to look to be art. Which I know deep down would never be a masterpiece with am imbalance of beauty between the face and the body. Imagine a Farrari that looked great but had hood gaps, asymmetrical mirrors that stuck out a bit to far, and a crooked radiator induction point (Whatever you call the hole in the front of the car), It would still be a beautiful work of art but due to a few minor but repairable flaws it would be no masterpiece. What a shame it would be to leave the Ferrari in that state when it could so easily be perfected with just a little modification and TLC. I say that not to objectively myself but to convey the point I am trying to make about the importance of total body symmetry for those us wanting to be living works of art.

My scoring methods were my way of trying to get a feel for my true starting point (I pegged my self as as 4 at times and a 7 at others) having a stone cold objective opinion from various groups of strangers gives one an accurate estimation and an standard of measurement to measure improvements with. For my sample I cut out the top 10 and bottom 10 responses to cut out as many inaccurate data points as possible. How would someone be able to gauge the effectiveness of their plastic surgery based on their own self referential point of view without extreme bias? There needs to be a objective 3rd party standard present, it's not like you can ask friends or family either due to the fact that they will be unable to be honest with you if you happen to be uglier than you hoped.
Until you go too far and take a great but maybe not perfect car and turn it into something that either looks way too overdone or just slightly off.
 
I don’t think you’re wrong because you want surgery to make yourself into the image that pleases you - it’s the importance you place on the perception of others that I have fault with.

Same physical result but what you get out of it emotionally will be a world of difference based on your mental perspective. Right or wrong, women are with lots of truly ugly men for reasons like confidence, personality, money, power, security - but looks is guaranteed to be something that fails at a point, and everyone must reckon with that.

If you can’t stand your crooked teeth, by God this is America - getcha some braces and a whitening kit. But if someone doesn’t date you for having crooked teeth - I’d say you can find someone else even better in time.

You can get all the surgery you want, but if you’re doing this to please others you will be left wanting. Even if you look better - there will always be those better looking you can’t compete with on an aesthetic level. It’s only skin deep my man.
 
I really think we need to see at least pics of this 10/10 Greek God body to give any reasonable suggestions. It’d help to see what exactly he thinks a 10/10 body is so we can see, pardon my being frank, if he’s delusional or not. No offense, but someone looking to have plastic surgery at 22 and having this level of what almost seems like an obsession, with “rating” their looks, the more information we have the better.

Again, please excuse my bluntness.
 
If you have a bad feature like you mentioned your ears stick out, or if you have a bad nose you can get it fixed. Features are easy to fix. But your talking about a new jaw and changing the overall shape of your face. Not sure what plastic surgeon your getting advice from but its not that easy. Its not as simple as walking in a 5 and coming out a 7. Doesnt work like that. And its permanent!

Start with otoplasty. Very easy and not risky
 
Grow a mustache, read a f*cking book, learn to fight, just build some damn character.

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This is Charles Bukowski. He had sex with thousands of girls because he wrote great poems.
 
I have nothing to say to all this, because I'm already a 10/10.

Training my "duck lips" expression while sitting in front of my PC, using a monitor mirror:

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BTW, this mirror is awesome. No more sneak attacks from my mother when I'm wanking to porn.
 
I have nothing to say to all this, because I'm already a 10/10.

Training my "duck lips" expression while sitting in front of my PC, using a monitor mirror:

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BTW, this mirror is awesome. No more sneak attacks from my mother when I'm wanking to porn.
Don’t lie to us; the vast majority of the time you end up wanking to your own reflection.
 
IMO try to just accept how you look. Most decent chicks are gonna be turned off if they found out that you, a dude, had plastic surgery. In my opinion.
 
IMO try to just accept how you look. Most decent chicks are gonna be turned off if they found out that you, a dude, had plastic surgery. In my opinion.
Probably this. Unless you’re a movie star, and then it’s probably more them overlooking it due to your fame and fortune than anything else.
 
I’ve always found women love confidence AND humility. The most attractive people to me, always just seem to work with what they have already, flaws or not, and present it with swagger. But that’s easy for me to say, since I’m super good looking, so I don’t feel it’s very fair to say what I’d do or not do. I have considered dying some grey though. I worry though, once you start going down the road of hating what you have to work with(receding or grey hair) maybe it sets a precedent of always picking yourself apart and you end up insecure. I don’t know.
 
Probably this. Unless you’re a movie star, and then it’s probably more them overlooking it due to your fame and fortune than anything else.

Exactly! Imagine how often Danny Trejo went under the knife until he looked perfect:

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Op it all depends on your mental health going into this. I 100% agree with the statement you made that looks open doors. That is fact. They aren’t necessary but very helpful. If it’s for deep rooted insecurities than prob not a good idea to proceed. But if it’s logical and sound of mind I 100% agree with you that it’s very similar to bodybuilding. If half the people preaching on the grind could pay to have Arnold’s body over night they would. Just make sure your mind, motivations, etc are in the right place before proceeding.
 
You need to think about this with a level head.
I would be pretty pissed in a few years when I found out 3D printed faces were that price so fast.
 
I really think we need to see at least pics of this 10/10 Greek God body to give any reasonable suggestions. It’d help to see what exactly he thinks a 10/10 body is so we can see, pardon my being frank, if he’s delusional or not. No offense, but someone looking to have plastic surgery at 22 and having this level of what almost seems like an obsession, with “rating” their looks, the more information we have the better.

Again, please excuse my bluntness.

Delusion = 10/10 to think after one cycle and being only 22 years old that he has a Greek God body.. Lol
 
Bro, seriously though. If you think this is gonna help you. Your delusional. Go look at my pics in my threads. I'm an ugly SOB, and have tagged tons of girls and been married 3 times. Looks don't mean anything.
 
Bro, seriously though. If you think this is gonna help you. Your delusional. Go look at my pics in my threads. I'm an ugly SOB, and have tagged tons of girls and been married 3 times. Looks don't mean anything.

See, listen to DemntedCowboy

If you own your ugly features, chicks dig that. Why do you think Lemmy kept those warts on his face?
 
Personally, I think the uglier a guy is...the more he has nothing to loose to go up to chicks. I'm reserved out, think it'd be a curse actually.
 
Bro, seriously though. If you think this is gonna help you. Your delusional. Go look at my pics in my threads. I'm an ugly SOB, and have tagged tons of girls and been married 3 times. Looks don't mean anything.

I'd much rather be able to pick up a car than prance around in front of a mirror making that stupid duck face. Back to real topics...gear, weights, women, beards, and chainsaws. I want to post jesse venturas quote in the helicopter from predator.." bunch of slack jawed...." but I'm too old and easily confused by technology.
 
Bro, seriously though. If you think this is gonna help you. Your delusional. Go look at my pics in my threads. I'm an ugly SOB, and have tagged tons of girls and been married 3 times. Looks don't mean anything.

Maybe 2 of your ex wives dumped you for more beautiful looking men...

;)
 
What if you become so absolutely beautiful that when you see your reflection in a deep pool of water you fall in love with it and are unable to look away? After days of staring into the water you become frustrated that the reflection can’t love you back, so you jump in and drown yourself?

Have you considered this possibility?

What ancient myth is this? Seriously
 
Imagine, you get to be a 10/10 with surgery. Now imagine you end up in jail... not good at all....

It's that moment when you wished you had skipped the buttocks implants...
 
I'm probably a solid 2. Could give a sh1t less. I've met a lot of women who dug the big fella..lol

Its all about the right lighting. As a solid 2, if its pitch dark, you have the best chances to get laid. :)
 
Lol...chloroform helps too

Or a very strong body odor. Always approach the girl with the wind in your back. When she smells you and turns around to vomit, make your move.

I see, we both are realistic and know how to treat women. :)
 
Nope am not delusional, I actually stated in my original post "So I will soon find myself in the position of of having a 10/10 body" and then later stated "I'll be out less than 10-12 grand for all of it, but it just to embarrassing to to have the build of greek god but look like just any other dude from the neck above where people see you first anyways. I am honestly scarred ****-less of both the surgery and how people in my life will react to me jumping 2 points in attractiveness with obvious plastic surgery. "

I expect to look like the picture right above Arnold by mid November as I cut my fat down to the single digits. And that'll just be my starting point for my next blast which will take me to where I want to be by Spring of next year, if I can't meet or exceed my current pace of progress which I will exceed it since I will hiring a prep coach (not for contest but to get more out of the next blast) and using every tool required to get the job done (Which I didn't do before) that's only 7 months away, which is scary because I haven't even gotten my wisdom teeth pulled yet.

I am to fat to look like a greek god right now, but I will get there very quickly due to my extreme rate of progression. Here is what I've done so far at about 11ish weeks in. The first picture (taken 3 days post injection) is when I first though that I could see some chest definition coming in (althou was probably just from the pump), and by week 6ish I was I was shocked and euphoric at how well it was going, the second picture was taken just today. I had never trained with weights (some light machine work from time to time) or had any appreciable muscle tone previously but was able to self teach myself very quickly courtesy of Jeff Nippard and John Meadows providing all the useful information I could need over at YouTube. I honestly didn't even think the steroids were working because I looked even worst than the first picture until the second week, I got sad that I ****ed it up so bad and started binge eating junk food like crazy (because I was worried that I was doomed to be ugly forever) but fortunately I was still training since I liked the way the muscles looked afterwards) So I started making sure I ate enough protein and the hint of results motivated me start taking the diet and training very seriously. I went from 160 to 188 well leaning out just a little bit in the process and I honestly am still in shock that it worked. I am certain that I can move the needle even faster going forward due to improving my diet, training, and drug regiment all in unison.

I still feel like I have no ****ing idea what I'm doing (hence the coach) but every 3-5 days I look even bigger and leaner (Test is ****ing magical!). I've been ugly my entire life and in 12 weeks and like 80$ of test later and it got so much ****ing better. It feels to strange, when I see myself in the mirror now it takes me a minute to believe it's really me. I feel like an alien/superhuman now staring back at me due to how much the hormones changed my body and mindset. Every-time I run into someone who knew me before they notice and comment/complement me, it's on of the best feelings I've ever experienced especially girls notice. I get why people take this hobby so far now, I can't wait to finish the metamorphosis. It will be so nice to look even better, much better actually than those greek god statues because those poor bastards didn't even have creatine/modern exercise and diet science to help them along. Invalid Link Removed

They are admired all around the world for thousands of years by millions of people, and I will look better than them with less than a year in the gym. Modern science is a wonderful thing gentleman.

Your kidding me. This is a joke...please for the love of sweet infant baby Jesus...tell me this is a joke. Dude, prepare to be torn apart...remember you asked for this.
 
It doesn't even look like you lift. You are a decade away from looking how you think you do. Stop typing, start eating, and lift some damn weights.
 
Nope am not delusional, I actually stated in my original post "So I will soon find myself in the position of of having a 10/10 body" and then later stated "I'll be out less than 10-12 grand for all of it, but it just to embarrassing to to have the build of greek god but look like just any other dude from the neck above where people see you first anyways. I am honestly scarred ****-less of both the surgery and how people in my life will react to me jumping 2 points in attractiveness with obvious plastic surgery. "

I expect to look like the picture right above Arnold by mid November as I cut my fat down to the single digits. And that'll just be my starting point for my next blast which will take me to where I want to be by Spring of next year, if I can't meet or exceed my current pace of progress which I will exceed it since I will hiring a prep coach (not for contest but to get more out of the next blast) and using every tool required to get the job done (Which I didn't do before) that's only 7 months away, which is scary because I haven't even gotten my wisdom teeth pulled yet.

I am to fat to look like a greek god right now, but I will get there very quickly due to my extreme rate of progression. Here is what I've done so far at about 11ish weeks in. The first picture (taken 3 days post injection) is when I first though that I could see some chest definition coming in (althou was probably just from the pump), and by week 6ish I was I was shocked and euphoric at how well it was going, the second picture was taken just today. I had never trained with weights (some light machine work from time to time) or had any appreciable muscle tone previously but was able to self teach myself very quickly courtesy of Jeff Nippard and John Meadows providing all the useful information I could need over at YouTube. I honestly didn't even think the steroids were working because I looked even worst than the first picture until the second week, I got sad that I ****ed it up so bad and started binge eating junk food like crazy (because I was worried that I was doomed to be ugly forever) but fortunately I was still training since I liked the way the muscles looked afterwards) So I started making sure I ate enough protein and the hint of results motivated me start taking the diet and training very seriously. I went from 160 to 188 well leaning out just a little bit in the process and I honestly am still in shock that it worked. I am certain that I can move the needle even faster going forward due to improving my diet, training, and drug regiment all in unison.

I still feel like I have no ****ing idea what I'm doing (hence the coach) but every 3-5 days I look even bigger and leaner (Test is ****ing magical!). I've been ugly my entire life and in 12 weeks and like 80$ of test later and it got so much ****ing better. It feels to strange, when I see myself in the mirror now it takes me a minute to believe it's really me. I feel like an alien/superhuman now staring back at me due to how much the hormones changed my body and mindset. Every-time I run into someone who knew me before they notice and comment/complement me, it's on of the best feelings I've ever experienced especially girls notice. I get why people take this hobby so far now, I can't wait to finish the metamorphosis. It will be so nice to look even better, much better actually than those greek god statues because those poor bastards didn't even have creatine/modern exercise and diet science to help them along. Invalid Link Removed

They are admired all around the world for thousands of years by millions of people, and I will look better than them with less than a year in the gym. Modern science is a wonderful thing gentleman.
Can I get a TL; DR? Is the right pic you now? If so, that is a LONG (long, long, long) way from the Greek statue you picked out from my post. If you think you look like a Greek God there, I guess I’ll have to be Kratos and take you down a notch my friend.

Edit: the statue we are now referencing has substantially more mass than you do, and is significantly leaner.

Good start (but WAY too early to use steroids), but don’t get ahead of yourself and develop a God complex, pardon the pun.
 
Nope am not delusional, I actually stated in my original post "So I will soon find myself in the position of of having a 10/10 body" and then later stated "I'll be out less than 10-12 grand for all of it, but it just to embarrassing to to have the build of greek god but look like just any other dude from the neck above where people see you first anyways. I am honestly scarred ****-less of both the surgery and how people in my life will react to me jumping 2 points in attractiveness with obvious plastic surgery. "

I expect to look like the picture right above Arnold by mid November as I cut my fat down to the single digits. And that'll just be my starting point for my next blast which will take me to where I want to be by Spring of next year, if I can't meet or exceed my current pace of progress which I will exceed it since I will hiring a prep coach (not for contest but to get more out of the next blast) and using every tool required to get the job done (Which I didn't do before) that's only 7 months away, which is scary because I haven't even gotten my wisdom teeth pulled yet.

I am to fat to look like a greek god right now, but I will get there very quickly due to my extreme rate of progression. Here is what I've done so far at about 11ish weeks in. The first picture (taken 3 days post injection) is when I first though that I could see some chest definition coming in (althou was probably just from the pump), and by week 6ish I was I was shocked and euphoric at how well it was going, the second picture was taken just today. I had never trained with weights (some light machine work from time to time) or had any appreciable muscle tone previously but was able to self teach myself very quickly courtesy of Jeff Nippard and John Meadows providing all the useful information I could need over at YouTube. I honestly didn't even think the steroids were working because I looked even worst than the first picture until the second week, I got sad that I ****ed it up so bad and started binge eating junk food like crazy (because I was worried that I was doomed to be ugly forever) but fortunately I was still training since I liked the way the muscles looked afterwards) So I started making sure I ate enough protein and the hint of results motivated me start taking the diet and training very seriously. I went from 160 to 188 well leaning out just a little bit in the process and I honestly am still in shock that it worked. I am certain that I can move the needle even faster going forward due to improving my diet, training, and drug regiment all in unison.

I still feel like I have no ****ing idea what I'm doing (hence the coach) but every 3-5 days I look even bigger and leaner (Test is ****ing magical!). I've been ugly my entire life and in 12 weeks and like 80$ of test later and it got so much ****ing better. It feels to strange, when I see myself in the mirror now it takes me a minute to believe it's really me. I feel like an alien/superhuman now staring back at me due to how much the hormones changed my body and mindset. Every-time I run into someone who knew me before they notice and comment/complement me, it's on of the best feelings I've ever experienced especially girls notice. I get why people take this hobby so far now, I can't wait to finish the metamorphosis. It will be so nice to look even better, much better actually than those greek god statues because those poor bastards didn't even have creatine/modern exercise and diet science to help them along. Invalid Link Removed

They are admired all around the world for thousands of years by millions of people, and I will look better than them with less than a year in the gym. Modern science is a wonderful thing gentleman.

Log it!

And are they used frangas stuck to your leg in the before pic?
 
I thought the dude cutting at 150lbs was my favorite delusional thread. This by far tops that. I have no words
 
Here’s the Neptune statue (Roman, but whatever, it’s the one of the bunch you selected). It’s not overly muscular, but it’s still a LOT more muscular AND a LOT leaner than you are.
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Nope am not delusional, I actually stated in my original post "So I will soon find myself in the position of of having a 10/10 body" and then later stated "I'll be out less than 10-12 grand for all of it, but it just to embarrassing to to have the build of greek god but look like just any other dude from the neck above where people see you first anyways. I am honestly scarred ****-less of both the surgery and how people in my life will react to me jumping 2 points in attractiveness with obvious plastic surgery. "

I expect to look like the picture right above Arnold by mid November as I cut my fat down to the single digits. And that'll just be my starting point for my next blast which will take me to where I want to be by Spring of next year, if I can't meet or exceed my current pace of progress which I will exceed it since I will hiring a prep coach (not for contest but to get more out of the next blast) and using every tool required to get the job done (Which I didn't do before) that's only 7 months away, which is scary because I haven't even gotten my wisdom teeth pulled yet.

I am to fat to look like a greek god right now, but I will get there very quickly due to my extreme rate of progression. Here is what I've done so far at about 11ish weeks in. The first picture (taken 3 days post injection) is when I first though that I could see some chest definition coming in (althou was probably just from the pump), and by week 6ish I was I was shocked and euphoric at how well it was going, the second picture was taken just today. I had never trained with weights (some light machine work from time to time) or had any appreciable muscle tone previously but was able to self teach myself very quickly courtesy of Jeff Nippard and John Meadows providing all the useful information I could need over at YouTube. I honestly didn't even think the steroids were working because I looked even worst than the first picture until the second week, I got sad that I ****ed it up so bad and started binge eating junk food like crazy (because I was worried that I was doomed to be ugly forever) but fortunately I was still training since I liked the way the muscles looked afterwards) So I started making sure I ate enough protein and the hint of results motivated me start taking the diet and training very seriously. I went from 160 to 188 well leaning out just a little bit in the process and I honestly am still in shock that it worked. I am certain that I can move the needle even faster going forward due to improving my diet, training, and drug regiment all in unison.

I still feel like I have no ****ing idea what I'm doing (hence the coach) but every 3-5 days I look even bigger and leaner (Test is ****ing magical!). I've been ugly my entire life and in 12 weeks and like 80$ of test later and it got so much ****ing better. It feels to strange, when I see myself in the mirror now it takes me a minute to believe it's really me. I feel like an alien/superhuman now staring back at me due to how much the hormones changed my body and mindset. Every-time I run into someone who knew me before they notice and comment/complement me, it's on of the best feelings I've ever experienced especially girls notice. I get why people take this hobby so far now, I can't wait to finish the metamorphosis. It will be so nice to look even better, much better actually than those greek god statues because those poor bastards didn't even have creatine/modern exercise and diet science to help them along. Invalid Link Removed

They are admired all around the world for thousands of years by millions of people, and I will look better than them with less than a year in the gym. Modern science is a wonderful thing gentleman.
????. You might wanna go back to the drawing board, or the gym. And get a new mirror if you see a Greek God.
 
I can clearly see a similarity to a Greek statue:

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This may be the best part:

“It will be so nice to look even better, much better actually than those greek god statues because those poor bastards didn't even have creatine/modern exercise and diet science to help them along.”

You’re a long, long, long way from looking even like the Neptune statue ITT, forget the more muscular statues like Poseidon or Hercules.
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You’re a troll, right?
 
My Grandma is closer to Greek God than you are OP, mainly cause she probably dated one in highschool though
 
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