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Plastic surgery and fashion to compliments one's great physique.

Lionheart1776

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So I will soon find myself in the position of of having a 10/10 body (By people outside of bodybuilding standards) with maybe a 6/10 face depending on how much dropping below 10% body fat adds detail to my face, right now my face is 5/10 due to a little chub and bloat from bulking.

I could bring my face up a lot by pinning my ears (they stick out A LOT), getting a jaw implant would help a lot too while I'm getting it all done I've also going to get my teeth strengthend and whitened. Does anyone else plan on improving their looks in more than one domain. I've been so focused on getting the perfect body that I'll song find myself being a mild butterface who dresses pretty boringly.

I'll be out less than 10-12 grand for all of it, but it just to embarrassing to to have the build of greek god but look like just any other dude from the neck above where people see you first anyways. I am honestly scarred ****-less of both the surgery and how people in my life will react to me jumping 2 points in attractiveness with obvious plastic surgery.

Has anyone else went this route? If so please share your experiences. I figured since a lot of people on here are SUPER committed to looking their absolute best that I'd be in good company, lol. I'm 22 now, It would be nice to experience all of my youth looking as damn good as possible. Each year, another year of looking normal passes. I feel like it's something that needs to be done sooner rather than later but it's do damn scary to jump in.
 
Honestly bro I think your missing a really key aspect of this ‘attractiveness’ equation - your personality........

I know the whole ‘beauty is what’s on the inside’ thing is a massive cliche and I’m not saying that at all - I mean I’m in this for the asthetics myself, but, if you allow how you believe other people view your looks affect you like that, you’ll still not be happy even after the improvements imo.

I also believe massively that someone who on paper is average looking, becomes way more attractive if they are just a great person, likewise I know ‘stunners’ on paper who I see as less attractive because they are cnuts.

If you are confident in how you look then you’ll exude that and trust me you’ll ‘move up a couple of points’ in others eyes, works the same way if you don’t rate yourself, neither will others.

I’m not saying looks don’t matter at all, far from it but from where you say you are comestic surgery isn’t the answer imo bro
 
I think you need to talk to a therapist...not a bunch of juice monkeys on an anabolic forum. Not to be rude, but sounds like you have some mental deficiency if you're 22 and thinking about all of that above.
 
"Jump 2 points in attractiveness"

Lol i feel like this is a Bret Easton Ellis novel
 
Reminds me of this dude I saw at a bar last night...must have been 45 yrs old...had a face lift, dyed black hair and eyebrows..botox...the whole shibang. Guys should not mess with their faces, period. It ain't gunna get you any more poon. Work out, get ripped, maybe get a Jez Extender for your willy.
 
mikeymike85 said:
Reminds me of this dude I saw at a bar last night...must have been 45 yrs old...had a face lift, dyed black hair and eyebrows..botox...the whole shibang. Guys should not mess with their faces, period. It ain't gunna get you any more poon. Work out, get ripped, maybe get a Jez Extender for your willy.
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Yeah midlife crisis and the cries for help
 
I honestly think the OP has this all backwards.. I dunno about you guys but this whole bodybuilding thing that I personally do is for myself and could give two ****s about what others say or care about. I find I just love being in the gym and am addicted to the pump feeling and training which in turn leads to muscular gains but it’s more of a natural high for me.
 
Whisky said:
Honestly bro I think your missing a really key aspect of this ‘attractiveness’ equation - your personality........

I know the whole ‘beauty is what’s on the inside’ thing is a massive cliche and I’m not saying that at all - I mean I’m in this for the asthetics myself, but, if you allow how you believe other people view your looks affect you like that, you’ll still not be happy even after the improvements imo.

I also believe massively that someone who on paper is average looking, becomes way more attractive if they are just a great person, likewise I know ‘stunners’ on paper who I see as less attractive because they are cnuts.

If you are confident in how you look then you’ll exude that and trust me you’ll ‘move up a couple of points’ in others eyes, works the same way if you don’t rate yourself, neither will others.

I’m not saying looks don’t matter at all, far from it but from where you say you are comestic surgery isn’t the answer imo bro
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I'm talking more on a pragmatic quality of life perspective, being very handsome opens up a lot of doors in this world. Both romantically and in terms of taking advantage on the inborn human instinct to attribute more positive traits (even if falsely so) to people based on how good they look, it's unfortunate but simply a fact of our primate nature. I think it's called the halo effect if anyone's interested.

On a spiritual level wouldn't it be wonderful to turn ones self into a real life ubermensch and get to see what it would be like to be both hansom in body and face, have a great sense of style, and an interesting personality all at the same time? Endless possibilities for someone this elite. Bodybuilding made me realize that we can all raise up from a low starting place with the right tools, strategy, and effort on hand (I was once 5 10 160 with a 36 inch pot belly and 12 inch arms for example)and that all things within reason are possible. I view plastic surgery as an extension of bodybuilding, because for some of us (like myself) there is a lot of asymmetry between the beauty of or bodies and our faces and as someone with a strong artistic bent I would like to correct it for myself and just wanted see if anyone has been through a transformation of that sort.

We only get one shot at life and I want the best of everything god dammit!
 
mikeymike85 said:
Reminds me of this dude I saw at a bar last night...must have been 45 yrs old...had a face lift, dyed black hair and eyebrows..botox...the whole shibang. Guys should not mess with their faces, period. It ain't gunna get you any more poon. Work out, get ripped, maybe get a Jez Extender for your willy.
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He's 45 trying to look young thou lol, I'm just getting minor work done to fix a few minor imperfections that cumulatively throw off the aesthetics and proportions of my face.
 
Lionheart1776 said:
I'm talking more on a pragmatic quality of life perspective, being very handsome opens up a lot of doors in this world. Both romantically and in terms of taking advantage on the inborn human instinct to attribute more positive traits (even if falsely so) to people based on how good they look, it's unfortunate but simply a fact of our primate nature. I think it's called the halo effect if anyone's interested.

On a spiritual level wouldn't it be wonderful to turn ones self into a real life ubermensch and get to see what it would be like to be both hansom in body and face, have a great sense of style, and an interesting personality all at the same time? Endless possibilities for someone this elite. Bodybuilding made me realize that we can all raise up from a low starting place with the right tools, strategy, and effort on hand (I was once 5 10 160 with a 36 inch pot belly and 12 inch arms for example)and that all things within reason are possible. I view plastic surgery as an extension of bodybuilding, because for some of us (like myself) there is a lot of asymmetry between the beauty of or bodies and our faces and as someone with a strong artistic bent I would like to correct it for myself and just wanted see if anyone has been through a transformation of that sort.

We only get one shot at life and I want the best of everything god dammit!
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I don’t mean this to sound patronising (I’m aware it does though) but when your a few years older you’ll realise that looks have way less to do with what’s important in ‘romantic opportunities’.

Trust me it’s way better to be with someone who loves your personality (and you love theirs) than someone who just loves how you look......

If you are in shape and CONFIDENT you’ll achieve everything you want.......but honestly, I’d suggest speaking this through with a psychiatrist bro, just sounds like you got some stuff to work through
 
False advertisment. One day a girl will think her kid is gonna be good looking because she thinks u got good genes but then comes out ugly af haha.

For real though just workout, be healthy and don't be a douchebag homo and you'll be good with every reason why u think u should do this.
 
Whisky said:
I don’t mean this to sound patronising (I’m aware it does though) but when your a few years older you’ll realise that looks have way less to do with what’s important in ‘romantic opportunities’.

Trust me it’s way better to be with someone who loves your personality (and you love theirs) than someone who just loves how you look......

If you are in shape and CONFIDENT you’ll achieve everything you want.......but honestly, I’d suggest speaking this through with a psychiatrist bro, just sounds like you got some stuff to work through
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So let me get this straight it's uncontroversial for us to inject random hormones we buy off the internet and risk our health/endocrine function to make our bodies look as aesthetic as possible, literally aesthetic beyond the natural levels possible. But if you apply the same mindset to improving one's face which is the main part of someone physical attractiveness the almost unanimous response is "good see a therapist". I don't get the extreme distinction some people on this forum see between the two. They're really not all the different when you break it down. (Maximizing what you got, and making a hobby/game out of seeing how much you can improve things.)
 
Plastic surgery as an extension to body building? It takes hard work and 24.7 dedication to achieve results.... juice or not, it still takes years. You're posting on the wrong forum bro, go preach to the Real Housewives or something... nobody here can give you insight besides see a therapist-
 
If you have the $$$ do as you please.
I see nothing wrong with someone going under the knife and enhancing their appearance,but if it becomes addictive,there is a problem.
 
Lionheart1776 said:
So let me get this straight it's uncontroversial for us to inject random hormones we buy off the internet and risk our health/endocrine function to make our bodies look as aesthetic as possible, literally aesthetic beyond the natural levels possible. But if you apply the same mindset to improving one's face which is the main part of someone physical attractiveness the almost unanimous response is "good see a therapist". I don't get the extreme distinction some people on this forum see between the two. They're really not all the different when you break it down. (Maximizing what you got, and making a hobby/game out of seeing how much you can improve things.)
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I dont think anyone here would argue that injecting steroids is uncontroversial. And maybe there is some sort of "slippery slope" argument to be made that any criticism of your thinking is hypocritical. But I think we'd all agree that what we do as bbers is a niche, and has no practical overlap with plastic surgery. Hell, even injecting synthol would not be widely "accepted" here.

I think youre being naive if youre surprised that a community considers some practices outside the norm.
 
BEAST73 said:
If you have the $$$ do as you please.
I see nothing wrong with someone going under the knife and enhancing their appearance,but if it becomes addictive,there is a problem.
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I think planning out plastic surgery at 22 is already indicative of an addiction.

He should 100% talk to a therapist, it is one thing to have a legitimate facial issue (large nose, wrinkles, etc.) and want to get minor enhancements done, but the way this guy is talking is very odd and likely indicates mental health issues.
 
mikeymike85 said:
Plastic surgery as an extension to body building? It takes hard work and 24.7 dedication to achieve results.... juice or not, it still takes years. You're posting on the wrong forum bro, go preach to the Real Housewives or something... nobody here can give you insight besides see a therapist-
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Agreed. Plastic surgery is not an extension of bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is a life style and something that has to be adhered to 24/7 for long term success. No amount of drugs can take a fat lazy slob into a fit or muscular bodybuilder. Just look at this forum, how many posts do we see from people running crazy cycles that look like complete sh*t. Pinning your ears back because you think they stick out too much does not compare.
 
A haircut, groomed facial hair, and good wardrobe will go a long way. There is no need to be contemplating plastic surgery at 22 years old, just for normal insecurities.
 
mikeymike85 said:
Plastic surgery as an extension to body building? It takes hard work and 24.7 dedication to achieve results.... juice or not, it still takes years. You're posting on the wrong forum bro, go preach to the Real Housewives or something... nobody here can give you insight besides see a therapist-
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Lmao for me it's 75-90 minutes 4 days a week for me (and I go hard and heavy, it's an intense hobby but shouldn't be time consuming once you get an efficient routines and habits worked out, the eating part I spend 2 hours cooking all my food per week and eating the planned out meals is well fast and mindless. I literally eat mine while doing other work and don't even notice it lol. Maybe the pros have to put in that kind of time but I am just a humble gym-rat myself.
 
rascal14 said:
I think planning out plastic surgery at 22 is already indicative of an addiction.

He should 100% talk to a therapist, it is one thing to have a legitimate facial issue (large nose, wrinkles, etc.) and want to get minor enhancements done, but the way this guy is talking is very odd and likely indicates mental health issues.
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Perhaps I have BDD, but that would not be uncommon on a BODYBUILDING forum. That's partially why I figured this would be a decent place to check in and see if anyone had any experiences to share on it. Sure my BDD has a bit of a twist compared to other bodybuilders but it isn't more severe than plenty of people on here have it as well, I am just more open about it because I have no shame due to the anonymity and it doesn't bother me much since the insecurity caused by it has pushed me much further then I otherwise would have gone towards my goals without it. It drives me but in a positive upward trajectory, people who are completely well adjusted/sane and secure are often the ones who are okay with comfort and mediocrity because they never had a great deal of angst to drive them to do drastic and amazing things.

Hell, how many people on here would have earned themselves their amazing physiques if they were competently normal and didn't feel insecure enough about their looks (to begin with) to drive them towards improvement. News flash the people who are perfectly secure would never be bothered to improve since they would have never felt the need to. Which is okay, but sure as hell isn't me.
 
BlockBuilder said:
Put up a few selfies. I’m sure your face is fine
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For security reasons, I am not comfortable with that since this is a AAS forum lol. I posted my face shot in a few other forums and on a reddit for that to try to get a reading once, since I had no idea really where I stood. And averaged tally from all sources I asked was 5.4 with 54 responses used. So I figure my estimation is fairly accurate, I know I am not ugly, but would love get to a nice and comfortable 7 if I can and maybe with a little luck I'll nail higher. With the minor and fairly safe surgery I have in mind that would be a very conservative and meet-able objective.
 
You could also stop being a weirdo with this plastic surgery bullsht and maybe that will get you a better score? Look how many celebrities get that stuff done and look how many come out actually looking better before the surgery. Um like all of them.

Moral of the story is don't be a btich, rock dope gear and don't be a scrub.
 
franks009 said:
You could also stop being a weirdo with this plastic surgery bullsht and maybe that will get you a better score? Look how many celebrities get that stuff done and look how many come out actually looking better before the surgery. Um like all of them.

Moral of the story is don't be a btich, rock dope gear and don't be a scrub.
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Yeah look what happened to Bruce Jenner. He started off with plastic surgery and then well.. the rest is history
 
Lionheart1776 said:
Hell, how many people on here would have earned themselves their amazing physiques if they were competently normal and didn't feel insecure enough about their looks (to begin with) to drive them towards improvement. News flash the people who are perfectly secure would never be bothered to improve since they would have never felt the need to. Which is okay, but sure as hell isn't me.
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At my age, I just want to be strong and healthy-Natty. Physical strength makes us old farts harder to kill.

That said, it’s your decision what path you choose. Not mine or anyone else’s decision to make on this forum. I’m not going to judge you.

Good luck!
 
You MUST have a chat to a therapist first... make sure this is the right thing to do and not some coping method that wont even fix the underlying issue. I say this because I too have had a lot of issues with how I look, I do have a condition though where my skull fused incorrectly and I got it partially fixed, going to get another surgery to fix it properly again in the future.

You want to make sure you have realistic expectations of what you can and can't change. Make sure your mental health is in order before changing your physical appearances (surgery wise) because if that is not in order I can almost promise you, you wont be happy regardless of surgery or not.

Edit; Didn't read your other comments, stop talking about this scoring bs... don't make your goal to impress others, do this for yourself.
 
mikeymike85 said:
I think you need to talk to a therapist...not a bunch of juice monkeys on an anabolic forum. Not to be rude, but sounds like you have some mental deficiency if you're 22 and thinking about all of that above.
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Hey, I'm no "juice monkey".
Don't call me that. I prefer to be called "roid head".
 
Wait a minute. We don't know how OP looks like, maybe he is right?

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That pic was taken after pinning his ears back ...
 
Lionheart1776 said:
So let me get this straight it's uncontroversial for us to inject random hormones we buy off the internet and risk our health/endocrine function to make our bodies look as aesthetic as possible, literally aesthetic beyond the natural levels possible. But if you apply the same mindset to improving one's face which is the main part of someone physical attractiveness the almost unanimous response is "good see a therapist". I don't get the extreme distinction some people on this forum see between the two. They're really not all the different when you break it down. (Maximizing what you got, and making a hobby/game out of seeing how much you can improve things.)
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Imo it’s not so much the plastic surgery that’s the issue but your reasoning behind it.....

Improving lean body mass has a myriad of health benefits, at a certain age natural hormone levels don’t allow for that so much so you could argue that sensible steroid cycling (which is what all on AM advocate) is beneficial to ones health and well being).

Way different to what you are talking about bro.

I know this **** sounds cliche but it is true that if you can’t love yourself for the way you look then others won’t either. Trust me when I tell you that asthetics are a small part of this game we call life. Give it some time before you start making decisions to go under the knife.
 
Lionheart1776 said:
For security reasons, I am not comfortable with that since this is a AAS forum lol. I posted my face shot in a few other forums and on a reddit for that to try to get a reading once, since I had no idea really where I stood. And averaged tally from all sources I asked was 5.4 with 54 responses used. So I figure my estimation is fairly accurate, I know I am not ugly, but would love get to a nice and comfortable 7 if I can and maybe with a little luck I'll nail higher. With the minor and fairly safe surgery I have in mind that would be a very conservative and meet-able objective.
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Do you have a girlfriend ? If so, what does she think of your plans? If not, is getting one also one of your motives for pursuing these surgeries?
 
Too bad plastic surgery outcomes are usually not transparent or effective. I always squint my eyes and think, jeez at least she is wealthy, which may not even be true, I just tell myself that so it is less sad.

Testosterone is a hormone that declines as we men age and is responsible for vitality and masculinity. Supplementing with Testosterone is a way of enhancing a natural pathway in the body. Yes, some bodybuilders go too far and look like freaks, and that is depressing as well.
 
Cosmo Surgery is built on a foundation of people that think it will make them happy. I understand how you feel. Please work on accepting yourself cause after the surgury repairs..you will still be you.
 
Sparta12 said:
You MUST have a chat to a therapist first... make sure this is the right thing to do and not some coping method that wont even fix the underlying issue. I say this because I too have had a lot of issues with how I look, I do have a condition though where my skull fused incorrectly and I got it partially fixed, going to get another surgery to fix it properly again in the future.

You want to make sure you have realistic expectations of what you can and can't change. Make sure your mental health is in order before changing your physical appearances (surgery wise) because if that is not in order I can almost promise you, you wont be happy regardless of surgery or not.

Edit; Didn't read your other comments, stop talking about this scoring bs... don't make your goal to impress others, do this for yourself.
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Thank you for your input about checking with a mental health professional prior to surgery, that does seem like a reasonable preliminary step to take prior to consultation. I think the surgeon was going to ask me to do that anyways due to my age. And for the most part I am doing it for myself. I love aesthetics and symmetry and I want my body to look to be art. Which I know deep down would never be a masterpiece with am imbalance of beauty between the face and the body. Imagine a Farrari that looked great but had hood gaps, asymmetrical mirrors that stuck out a bit to far, and a crooked radiator induction point (Whatever you call the hole in the front of the car), It would still be a beautiful work of art but due to a few minor but repairable flaws it would be no masterpiece. What a shame it would be to leave the Ferrari in that state when it could so easily be perfected with just a little modification and TLC. I say that not to objectively myself but to convey the point I am trying to make about the importance of total body symmetry for those us wanting to be living works of art.

My scoring methods were my way of trying to get a feel for my true starting point (I pegged my self as as 4 at times and a 7 at others) having a stone cold objective opinion from various groups of strangers gives one an accurate estimation and an standard of measurement to measure improvements with. For my sample I cut out the top 10 and bottom 10 responses to cut out as many inaccurate data points as possible. How would someone be able to gauge the effectiveness of their plastic surgery based on their own self referential point of view without extreme bias? There needs to be a objective 3rd party standard present, it's not like you can ask friends or family either due to the fact that they will be unable to be honest with you if you happen to be uglier than you hoped.
 
mikeymike85 said:
I think you need to talk to a therapist...not a bunch of juice monkeys on an anabolic forum. Not to be rude, but sounds like you have some mental deficiency if you're 22 and thinking about all of that above.
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I don't know about anyone else, but the runway isn't on my radar
 
JoePaul39 said:
Do you have a girlfriend ? If so, what does she think of your plans? If not, is getting one also one of your motives for pursuing these surgeries?
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I don't have one, and for this very reason "what does she think of your plans?" I make frequent and drastic changes by habit, usually on a whim and I don't want to have to check in with a chick every time before I do. I'll save that for middle age or something lol. And no it isn't, that kind of relationship is not my cup of tea.
 
Question, what is your experience with ph/anabolics? Any recent cycles? Your post makes it sound like you are wrapping up a cycle with some favorable results.
 
suavmcgauv said:
Question, what is your experience with ph/anabolics? Any recent cycles? Your post makes it sound like you are wrapping up a cycle with some favorable results.
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Finishing my first blast on the 20th, started at 300mg per week of test C and tapered it up by 60mg per week every 2 weeks until hitting 500 (due to fear of sides). It completely ****ing changed me man, that's what inspired my interest in plastic surgery actually. The cycle results were far better than I could have ever hoped for, it made me wonder why not try to push for big wins in other areas as well. Doubling down on victory so to speak.
 
Whisky said:
Pmsl, have a mental image of you on a cat walk with some Vivienne Westwood outfit on now lol
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Lol...that would be as funny as some of these threads. Maybe I'm just old and cynical, but this guy called himself a Greek God...there should be a term for elevated testosterone narsicism. Maybe he just lives in San Fran...I dunno.
 
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