Thinking of my next cycle

[BloodManor]

So I’m planning my next cycle for the fall and was thinking of doing a lean bulk/recomp cycle

Weeks 1-15 test E 600mg a week (300mg pinned 2x a week)
Week 1-4 anadrol 50mg 5-6 100mg
Weeks 10-15 50mg var (pharma)

Arimidex .5 e3d
Liver support/cycle assist

Pct clomid and nolva
Natty test booster

Always wanted to try dbol and found a good price on aurum rx or thinking of spending a extra $120 for pharma grade.
The test and var are pharma grade and have used both and legit as fuk

For my people who have used dbol before what dose did you use and results ?

 

[AnabolicGuru]

I haven’t used dbol, but if your goals are a lean bulk, then I’d maybe consider tbol at 40-60mg for 4-6 weeks.

 

[mikeymike85]

Dmz and Var for me was a great recomp.

 

[The Express 42]

Looks good just with the dbol and test e I would keep a close eye on estrogen. I personally would run Raloxifene the first 6 weeks there to prevent gyno and I’d use the Arimidex at 0.25ed instead

 

[BloodManor]

I haven’t used dbol, but if your goals are a lean bulk, then I’d maybe consider tbol at 40-60mg for 4-6 weeks.

My guy does not have tbol - has pretty much everything else lol

 

[BloodManor]

Looks good just with the dbol and test e I would keep a close eye on estrogen. I personally would run Raloxifene the first 6 weeks there to prevent gyno and I’d use the Arimidex at 0.25ed instead

I have only ran one cycle so far test 500mg a week and var 30 mg last 5 weeks and never used a ai (blood work confirmed)

 

[RickyBlobby]

I used 50 mg and results were gyno. In a nutshell. I did get a lot bigger and stronger too but most of the size went away. The gyno didn’t. Moral of the story, have an ai on hand and you should be fine.

 

[BloodManor]

I used 50 mg and results were gyno. In a nutshell. I did get a lot bigger and stronger too but most of the size went away. The gyno didn’t. Moral of the story, have an ai on hand and you should be fine.

Not arguing a ai and will use one on this cycle and always had one on had during my previous cycle.

 

[BloodManor]

Thinking of replacing the D-Bol with Anadrol at 50mg for 4 weeks and last 2 weeks at 100mg. Seems it would benefit me more for a leaner bulk with way less bloat and estrogen sides.

 

[Renew1]

Mikey mentioned DMZ. In my opinion, it's a great lean bulker.

 

[bigdavid]

I used 50 mg and results were gyno. In a nutshell. I did get a lot bigger and stronger too but most of the size went away. The gyno didn’t. Moral of the story, have an ai on hand and you should be fine.

Dbol aromatizes independent of the aromatase enzyme. So basically an ai doesn’t help with dbol estrogen increases. A serm is the only real way to protect against it. Or using an ai to decrease estrogen from other sources (test or deca) and hoping you decrease those enough to offset the increase from the dbol.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Dbol aromatizes independent of the aromatase enzyme. So basically an ai doesn’t help with dbol estrogen increases. A serm is the only real way to protect against it. Or using an ai to decrease estrogen from other sources (test or deca) and hoping you decrease those enough to offset the increase from the dbol.

Not being a dick but real talk show me proof that androgens aromatize independent of the aroma tase enzyme and I will be a believer.

 

[bigdavid]

Not being a dick but real talk show me proof that androgens aromatize independent of the aroma tase enzyme and I will be a believer.

Maybe aromatize is a bad choice of words. “Converts” would be better. Here is an excerpt from the text Anabolics.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Eh...... I’m fairly certain aromatase is the primary substrate Used to convert dbol and every other AAS to estrogen and it’s metabolites. This is common knowledge and although I appreciate your desire to look from outside the box aromatase inhibition is effective in reducing the estrogenic side effects of dbol.

On the same note I agree that SERMS are another effective tool for negating some of the undesireable side effects of increased estrogen metabolites such as gynocomastia..

I personally, currently believe that a serm, primarily torem should be ran concurrent with every cycle, especially in users who pct, due to not only the reduced risk of gynocomastia but also the reduced level of HTPA suppression due to the LH stimulation properties of SERMS in general.