PES High Volume

JackMan017

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Hey Guys,
This has been my go-to pre for a while. I like it alot and don't really see a reason to change. Sometimes I'll turn it into a stim with a caffeine pill.
Is there any other stim-free pre that would keep me as happy as high volume or possibly worth trying? I was looking at Vasomax, and I'm almost ready to try it, but a part of me wants to simply continue with HV. I think I'd rather prefer to purchase stim-free pre's, which atleast leaves me the option of keeping it stim free or like I said above pop a c-pill.
If it helps, I typically train fasted every other day, drink lots of water daily and medium to higher carbs throughout the week.
Appreciate any help!
 
High Volume and Vasomax are my favorite pump products. MTS Vasky is also a good option.

If you're enjoying HV then it probably isn't necessary to branch out. But if you're interested in trying something new, Vasomax is definitely on par with HV
 
JackMan017 said:
Hey Guys,
This has been my go-to pre for a while. I like it alot and don't really see a reason to change. Sometimes I'll turn it into a stim with a caffeine pill.
Is there any other stim-free pre that would keep me as happy as high volume or possibly worth trying? I was looking at Vasomax, and I'm almost ready to try it, but a part of me wants to simply continue with HV. I think I'd rather prefer to purchase stim-free pre's, which atleast leaves me the option of keeping it stim free or like I said above pop a c-pill.
If it helps, I typically train fasted every other day, drink lots of water daily and medium to higher carbs throughout the week.
Appreciate any help!
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Check out SNS Vaso6. Its probably the best solo pump ingredient, will be much cheaper than HV and can be stacked with literally anything (except maybe viagara haha)
 
john.patterson said:
Vasomax is definitely on par with HV
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Agreed and 2nd in for the VasoMax recommendation.
They've actually just upgraded it to include 300mg of the new pump king, Vaso6!

Reviews, including my 5/5 rating, are in here...
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ZachHXx said:
Idk about the viagra comment lol. I was on epilogue, full dose of re1gn and cialis pre workout. Pumps for dayzzz
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Gotta be careful with low bp tho. If you’re on the low end normally it could be very dangerous
 
VasoMax is legit. By itself or stacking it with intramax for a really well rounded non stim pre workout. The flavors are amazing and the results speak for themselves. I understand your point though. If you love HV why change it. But sometimes change can be good.
 
With the new addition of Vaso6 to vasomax they have a great pump product on their hands. Although I do think adding 300mg of Vaso6 to high volume is probably the best thing you can do for a pump.
 
Cannibal permaswole is one of my favorites up there with high volume.
Loaded with agmatine, creatinol-o-phosphate, resveratrol, sodium-r isomer-ALA, citrulline and norvaline, Cannibal Swole's got just what the doctor ordered to have everyone checking you out and remarking that you have awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight.
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The Solution said:
MA Labs MA Pump
Ghost Pump
Primeval Labs Mega Pre
Kraken Pump
Scivation Stim Free Quake
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This list right there is pretty good. I would pick one and try it if you haven't tried these yet. High Volume is one of my fav go to pump pre workouts products.
 
R1balla said:
VasoMax is legit. By itself or stacking it with intramax for a really well rounded non stim pre workout. The flavors are amazing and the results speak for themselves. I understand your point though. If you love HV why change it. But sometimes change can be good.
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Any other site selling this besides performaxlabs.com ?
 
JackMan017 said:
Hey Guys,
This has been my go-to pre for a while. I like it alot and don't really see a reason to change. Sometimes I'll turn it into a stim with a caffeine pill.
Is there any other stim-free pre that would keep me as happy as high volume or possibly worth trying? I was looking at Vasomax, and I'm almost ready to try it, but a part of me wants to simply continue with HV. I think I'd rather prefer to purchase stim-free pre's, which atleast leaves me the option of keeping it stim free or like I said above pop a c-pill.
If it helps, I typically train fasted every other day, drink lots of water daily and medium to higher carbs throughout the week.
Appreciate any help!
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You cannot go wrong with VasoMax. We just "reformulated" it adding Vaso 6 to it. Below, look my honest assessment of the two. Keep in mind, I also love High Volume.

With High Volume, I have found that the pump I get lasts throughout the workout, but is not as pronounced as VasoMax. For example, if I am training chest, I will get somewhat of a pump in other muscles that are working as well. Think of triceps and delts. However, with VasoMax, the pump I get is more pronounced and noticeable, in the specific muscle group I am training. During the sets I perform, I really feel the pump more so than High Volume, but after I stop the set, the pump is less than the continuous pump I have with High Volume. For example, if I am doing leg extensions for my quads, my quads are on fire during the set and a little after the set. However, 20 minutes later, the pump is still there, but not nearly as pronounced as High Volume. I think VasoMax would be really good for those who have a hard time with a mind muscle connection.

The other main difference is the nootropics in VasoMax. They will help with focus. I would also add a little more bulk Alpha GPC to get a 600 mg dose, look at the study below to see why. My order for non stim would be the following:

Athletes for whom strength or speed is important can boost their chance of success by taking 600 mg alpha-glycerylphosphorylcholine [abbreviated to alpha-GPC] for six days before a competition. Sports scientists at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette in the US discovered that this results in a three-percent increase in strength.
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1. VasoMax/High Volume
2. Kraken Pump
3. HemaV02

In short, a pump that you fell all workout, High Volume. A more intense pump in the specific muscle you are working, but the pump dissipates a little quicker, but aids with focus, VasoMax
 
nickodemus said:
Any other site selling this besides performaxlabs.com ?
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Several of the board sponsors and other retailers that are not on AM. Ask them via chat or email which version it is. The warehouse is only pumping out the new version, so if it contains nitrates and not Vaso6, it is the older version which might still be in circulation.
 
LeanEngineer said:
This list right there is pretty good. I would pick one and try it if you haven't tried these yet. High Volume is one of my fav go to pump pre workouts products.
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Would you give VASOBLITZ by Build Fast Formula a go?
 
BUILDFASTFORM said:
Would you like to try VASOBLITZ by Build Fast Formula?
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Only if you have single or small samples. I’m off most supps right now so I can’t do a whole tub. Appreciate the offer though!
 
R1balla said:
Nothing, just curious as to how many people have actually done it. It’s amazing.
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ARA+High Volume created instant and insane pumps and muscle hardness that lasted for hours. As soon as I get the money I'm gunna do another X-Gelz run, I can only imagine the pumps with my new VasoMax V3
 
Slims said:
ARA+High Volume created instant and insane pumps and muscle hardness that lasted for hours. As soon as I get the money I'm gunna do another X-Gelz run, I can only imagine the pumps with my new VasoMax V3
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Yeah I have a tub on the way. Haven’t tried it with ArA yet. Eager to get it going. I’ll be stacking those two with intramax.
 
It definitely wouldn't hurt to branch out, especially considering there are so many decent pump products out now.

On my list to try is High Volume + Vaso6 and the newly formulated vasomax
 
The two times I’ve use l citrulline with Serum by out break nutrition my pumps went down. Citrulline and vaso6 definitely don’t go together.
 
I'm looking for some were to buy the new formula of vasomax. Only place with new formula was their website . Looking for better pricing or at least free shipping .
 
USPlabsRep said:
From my understanding there is one mouse vitro cell pilot study. I don't think anyone can draw any conclusions from it.
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Very helpful. Thanks for clarifying why I was incorrect...
 
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