Do you have high estrogen sides???Doing test c and deca 500mg a week 2 pins a week 250mg of each was wondering if you guys think .5mg armidex 3x a week is enough ? I don’t have any sides yet but was just curious how many days other are running the armidex thanks
How long have you been on? I’d maybe start at .25mg eod and adjust from there to help keep estrogen from going too high.
How you doing with 0.25 yourself? Ever have to raise it?
I use aromasin and letro personally. I was just giving a recommendation. I hear a lot of people say “if you don’t got symptoms, don’t use an ai” but with a dose of 500mg test, the amount of estrogen in anybody’s body will be abnormally high without an ai.
I agree, was just asking cause I never feel like I have to go over .25
Yes to the OP anybody telling you if you don’t have high estrogen symptoms to not use an AI is an idiot! I’m on trt and my doctor can’t dtress the importance of keeping estradiol in range. I had so called high estradiol on paper and didn’t “feel” anything, but other problems can and will arise. There’s much other things to be concerned with other than gyno. You need blood work!I use aromasin and letro personally. I was just giving a recommendation. I hear a lot of people say “if you don’t got symptoms, don’t use an ai” but with a dose of 500mg test, the amount of estrogen in anybody’s body will be abnormally high without an ai.
Yes to the OP anybody telling you if you don’t have high estrogen symptoms to not use an AI is an idiot! I’m on trt and my doctor can’t dtress the importance of keeping estradiol in range. I had so called high estradiol on paper and didn’t “feel” anything, but other problems can and will arise. There’s much other things to be concerned with other than gyno. You need blood work!
This is an area that interests me (sorry for mini hijack op but think the answers to this may be of use to you also), I’m starting my first test e cycle in sept and have arimidex and aromisin already on hand.
However I wasn’t planning to use unless I had gyno symptoms as I didn’t want to crash my e (aware that’s not ideal as it’s needed to build muscle).
If one gets bloods what’s the idea ratio of e?
Without bloods are there any signs short of bitch tits? Level of bloat etc?
Of course optimal is to stabilize it not crash it and that's quite impossible for most people if going recommended and as me half recommended dosage. I don't think some extra estrogen will do much for muscles but more for bloat (weight gain) and pimples.. Aromasin is a much better compound though and you should never start arimidex before maybe week 3 in my opinion if running enthanate cause then you will crash it and that's just horrible.. I slept 2-3 times mid day every day for a week cause I was so tired.
It's also very hard to get perfect estrogen
Fair enough. I’ve used aromisin at low dose along trest without issue. Never tried arimidex though......
My thinking was always to wait at least 3-4 weeks unless I woke up with a third titty
It's about balance, nothing wrong with elevated estrogen if your not getting sides.I use aromasin and letro personally. I was just giving a recommendation. I hear a lot of people say “if you don’t got symptoms, don’t use an ai” but with a dose of 500mg test, the amount of estrogen in anybody’s body will be abnormally high without an ai.
That's halirious, the person who tought me not to use an ai if it's not needed is my dad's endo. He must be a idiotYes to the OP anybody telling you if you don’t have high estrogen symptoms to not use an AI is an idiot! I’m on trt and my doctor can’t dtress the importance of keeping estradiol in range. I had so called high estradiol on paper and didn’t “feel” anything, but other problems can and will arise. There’s much other things to be concerned with other than gyno. You need blood work!
It's about balance, nothing wrong with elevated estrogen if your not getting sides.
That's halirious, the person who tought me not to use an ai if it's not needed is my dad's endo. He must be a idiot
Sure if your estrogen stays in the range while on test than don’t use one. The reference range for estradiol is 8.0 - 35 pg/ml.. and serum estrone is 10 - 50 pg/mlThat's halirious, the person who tought me not to use an ai if it's not needed is my dad's endo. He must be a idiot
Because they are not concerned with making all their patients super human unless they are one of those clinics that actually prescribe anavar, nandrolone etc. instill wonder with all the clinics that are available that offer actual real anabolics. Why don’t most people go that route? Are people really that cheap and would rather by UGL crap that you don’t even know what’s in it? Blows my mind.I’ve spoken to multiple endocrinologists and none of them knew very much about anabolics. Most of them work with diabetics, thyroid disorders, adrenal glands, etc. Most physicians are stubborn if you ask me.
Because they are not concerned with making all their patients super human unless they are one of those clinics that actually prescribe anavar, nandrolone etc. instill wonder with all the clinics that are available that offer actual real anabolics. Why don’t most people go that route? Are people really that cheap and would rather by UGL crap that you don’t even know what’s in it? Blows my mind.
No clue. I went to one of those clinics and got a script for test but not all of them are as easy as some people make them out to be. Most probably wouldn’t give you more than 200mg a week, and they generally just sell you it by the syringe for 15-25 dollars. It’s a rip off usually lol.
The uk is way behind the USA when it comes to TRT. Very little media coverage and although I’ve not needed to go that route myself I know others who have tried with limited success.
My understanding is it’s around £90-100 a month ($130-140) as well so not cheap.....
Yea those clinics are rip offs. I was paying $15 for a 150mg shot at a clinic and now it only costs me $3.10 lol. They also try putting you on various other medications and overcharging for those as well.
what dosing procedure would you recommend using aromasin instead of arimidex for 14 weeks of 500mg test e
starting week 2-3?
Even though this is my first cycle I would agree completely. Week 1 Pinned 250 test E Monday and Thursday...my nipples started itching by Friday and a little bloated. Started 12.5 of aromasin yesterday.Ehh, I’d start up day 1 personally. Test e/cyp will begin to raise test and estro immediately, not to mention that aromasin takes about a week or so to reach steady blood plasma levels itself. I think most people just say week 2-3 because they assume that it takes that long for test to work, but in reality, as soon as it hits ur bloodstream, it begins to buildup.
Completely agreeEhh, I’d start up day 1 personally. Test e/cyp will begin to raise test and estro immediately, not to mention that aromasin takes about a week or so to reach steady blood plasma levels itself. I think most people just say week 2-3 because they assume that it takes that long for test to work, but in reality, as soon as it hits ur bloodstream, it begins to buildup.
This is an area that interests me (sorry for mini hijack op but think the answers to this may be of use to you also), I’m starting my first test e cycle in sept and have arimidex and aromisin already on hand.
However I wasn’t planning to use unless I had gyno symptoms as I didn’t want to crash my e (aware that’s not ideal as it’s needed to build muscle).
If one gets bloods what’s the idea ratio of e?
Without bloods are there any signs short of bitch tits? Level of bloat etc?
What it boils down to is getting bloodwork and knowing what's going on. Obviously if your estrogen is way out of range you need to do something. But to just start a cycle and assume you should take a ai is not necessary. If you are gonna tho I would definitely chose asin
Don’t know about with running a cycle, but I know from being a trt patient doctors typically don’t put patient’s on an ai unless bloodwork warrants it.