In need of guidance for current cycle

Bcuzimbatman

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Forgive the long post but just need some advice. I started a new cycle of Test E 500mg, And Dbol on May 16th. I was using some leftover test from last cycle and was starting to feel the high test feelings I planned on going for 15 weeks and using var my last 8 weeks. It turns out that my Dbol was fake so I overshot my AI and ended up tanking my estro which is now coming back up. I decided to get bloods about 6 weeks into the cycle and lo and behold my new vial of Test was ALSO BUNK so I ended up pinning about 2 weeks of legit test and 4 weeks of nothing which explains why I was feeling like utter trash. Fortunately for the last week I had a feeling about this and started pinning different test (which I labmaxed and is in fact legit) and taking my anavar from a different source (also 100% legit). I’m now coming back to that great feeling. My question is. Should I just start my 15 weeks over again since I was basically taking nothing? And should I be ok using the var throughout the whole cycle provided I have liver support?
 
I would start the 15 weeks over. But I would cycle clomid or run HCG to minimize HTPA damage
 
I have HCG on hand that I started on week 2 of my last start. Should I wait until week 2 of this one? Or should I just keep taking it as is? And am I ok running anavar through all 15 weeks?
 
I would just run the HCG throughout. And personally, I would not hesitate to run Anavar 15 weeks. You may want to do a little research on anavar and lipids and make the call yourself though. :)
 
RickyBlobby said:
I would just run the HCG throughout. And personally, I would not hesitate to run Anavar 15 weeks. You may want to do a little research on anavar and lipids and make the call yourself though. :)
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I have tried to research as much as I can. When referring to lipids this is a reference to liver values correct? Would tudca be enough to protect me?
 
Same as above.
Just recover then have another go.
Blood fats/oils/cholesterols are refered to as lipids and anavar will make them bad, cardarine can work to help this.
 
Run HCG all the way through if you can, everyday or eod, keep the boys plump, recover with ease. Clomid PCT you are golden. People run longer than that and pct. I would start over for sure. Personally, I would up the test dose, and run the var with some liver supports and take creatine too with the var.
 
Newth said:
Same as above.
Just recover then have another go.
Blood fats/oils/cholesterols are refered to as lipids and anavar will make them bad, cardarine can work to help this.
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Recover and then start over? Or just start from here? I can’t really afford to use my PCT now and fully recover and THEN start over. I can only kinda continue from now and use my PCT once finished
 
Bcuzimbatman said:
Recover and then start over? Or just start from here? I can’t really afford to use my PCT now and fully recover and THEN start over. I can only kinda continue from now and use my PCT once finished
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Is this because of financial or time reasons?
 
Bcuzimbatman said:
Financial. Being that I already spent money on a bunk cycle and had to Re-Buy all this product I am already way over budget for the cycle
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Honestly just doing a solid 4 week SERM cycle won't cost much, then 2-4 weeks off is your best choice imho.

That way you will get the most out of your cycle, especially since money is an issue.
Waiting sucks but getting **** results from a good cycle sucks more.
 
Newth said:
Honestly just doing a solid 4 week SERM cycle won't cost much, then 2-4 weeks off is your best choice imho.

That way you will get the most out of your cycle, especially since money is an issue.
Waiting sucks but getting **** results from a good cycle sucks more.
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It’s more than I’m able to spend atm. Would I still be ok running my 15 weeks if I use HCG along with it?
 
Bcuzimbatman said:
It’s more than I’m able to spend atm. Would I still be ok running my 15 weeks if I use HCG along with it?
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Just to clarify my last post incase.
Stop everything, do a PCT with just a SERM then redo you 15 week cycle.

As for HCG someone else will have to chime in, not something I have used or really know about.
 
Newth said:
Just to clarify my last post incase.
Stop everything, do a PCT with just a SERM then redo you 15 week cycle.

As for HCG someone else will have to chime in, not something I have used or really know about.
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I understand. But unfortunately if I use my SERM now I will have to re-purchase it in order to PCT at the end of my cycle. Plus I will be crashed in this meantime as well
 
Bcuzimbatman said:
I understand. But unfortunately if I use my SERM now I will have to re-purchase it in order to PCT at the end of my cycle. Plus I will be crashed in this meantime as well
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In that case I would redesign your cycle with what you have starting like it's the beginning, remembering the longer shut down the harder to recover.

The other way gives you 6 weeks to save for 1 bottle of SERM and get a lot better value for money out of your cycle by the end with an easier recovery. Which is why I still recommend it.
 
Newth said:
In that case I would redesign your cycle with what you have starting like it's the beginning, remembering the longer shut down the harder to recover.

The other way gives you 6 weeks to save for 1 bottle of SERM and get a lot better value for money out of your cycle by the end with an easier recovery. Which is why I still recommend it.
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Well I’ve already got one week of legitimate Test E 500 in my system. So I guess I can count that as week 1 and move on from there. I’ve used Anavar all this week but am considering using it only the last 8 weeks of the cycle. I can probably get my hands on some Dbol to help kickstart the cycle. Would that be safe with some Tudca?
 
Damn thats some bad luck man.

Yes tudca or udca is The liver support. 1g ed. Second is NAC.

If your hcg is legit your hp of hpta has been shutdown for 5 weeks. Its going to b3 shut down for another 15 weeks. Tbh the choice is yours. This are your subjective health standards and we cant tell you yes or no.

But just to be clear; 2000mg's of nolva is like 40$. That's enough for 2 - 3 PCT's...

What would I do? I would have done bloods for LH and FSH. If those were zero I would have gone to pct.

Taking dbol and var together; dont do it, if you are tight on money. Take dbol first and end with var.
 
Or I would do a short 8 weeks cycle with test c and prop at week 7 and 8. With dbol for 4 - 6 weeks.
 
I agree that you should really PCT for your own good.....and to make the best use of your gear.

I understand the financial part, but (as stated above) it is $40 for a SERM. And you won't need it for....
PCT + time off between cycles
PLUS
The length of your next cycle.
 
Renew1 said:
I agree that you should really PCT for your own good.....and to make the best use of your gear.

I understand the financial part, but (as stated above) it is $40 for a SERM. And you won't need it for....
PCT + time off between cycles
PLUS
The length of your next cycle.
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Yes. I understand. Taking that much time off in order to PCT now would really interfere with my plans for the end of the year as well. Will it really be that hard to recover? Can’t I extend my PCT? I was planning on using. Clomid 75/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. Can I add another week of both?
 
Bcuzimbatman said:
Yes. I understand. Taking that much time off in order to PCT now would really interfere with my plans for the end of the year as well. Will it really be that hard to recover? Can’t I extend my PCT? I was planning on using. Clomid 75/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. Can I add another week of both?
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We can (and will) do whatever we decide to do in the end.

Just keep in mind....from watching the experiences of our brothers over the years, there are things that we can do to make our odds more favorable, but each cycle is a gamble. And every time we increase the length of a cycle, or don't take the best care of the other precautions that we can....we increase the risk of having to rely on outside sources of hormones for the rest of our lives, organ problems, sterility...etc.
I honestly think adding the additional time in this case doesn't just add to risk of complications...I believe that it multiplies it.
But everyone has to make their own decisions.

If you decide to continue on anyway...
I would run a shortened cycle (remember, you've actually been on cycle this whole time..part of it just sucked), with HCG the whole time. Then a longer PCT.
 
Matthersby said:
I know we are way past this, but how did you know your Dbol and Test were bunk?
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I took the “Dbol” for a few weeks and felt nothing the entire time then, tested it through Labmax to reveal it was fake.

I was taking the “test” for about 3-4 weeks when I decided to get bloods because I wasn’t feeling great and realized I was completely crashed
 
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