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Spurfy's Cutting Protocol.

Cgkone said:
Lets just see some me run it.
So far..Spurfy ideas are fails more that success.
No way I'm fcking with nicotine or hydrocortisone.
Lets leave weed out of it. Most chronic smokers are kids. Once you become an adult you don't smoke weed all day everyday.
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See you get it. I got nothing against weed but from what I see the main users are kids or people with nothing going on and that's just how it is. Had alcohol been illegal it would be the same I would guess. Now it's changing drastically in USA since it's being legalized a lot of the average Joes out there are smoking it too. Maybe in 10 years weed will be more accepted than alcohol
 
Chados said:
Obviously smoking is worse in every way. I come from a country where everyone use something called snus which is basically like Copenhagen but more pure and salty instead of sweet and its highly addictive. The patches are not as much but it still doesn't change the fact that nicotine as a substance is addictive and the biggest reason why tobacco is so addictive.
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Haha I forgot about snus. Kids used that when I was in high school. They’d spit the pouches in the water fountain. So you’re Swedish then. You gotta be watching the World Cup right now.
 
What’s the point of the hydrocortisone anyway? I used to put Preparation H on my butthole and it never helped me lose fat haha.
 
YoungThor said:
Haha I forgot about snus. Kids used that when I was in high school. They’d spit the pouches in the water fountain. So you’re Swedish then. You gotta be watching the World Cup right now.
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Yup but I lived in the US. US actually had Swedish snus which is impossible to find pretty much anywhere else than in Norway and Sweden. A lot of people claim it's harder to quit than smoking. Indeed I am haha a lot of teams are playing better than what's expected so let's just hope they'll continue that way
 
Chados said:
Theres no way that's true. Most people addicted to tobacco is that because of the nicotine.
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Wrong. It's the beta Carbolines and other alkaloids which significantly potentiate that function of nicotine which creates more highly addictive substance
 
Put it this way. Vape nicotine until you get barely get a buzz and see how long that last. Then smoke until you barely get a buzz and see how long that last. It last WAY long and feels way better with a cig or chew or snuff. This is mostly do to the beta Carbolines, there are also other active alkaloids too, that potentiates nicotine and also have euphoric effects on there own. It's the some total of tobacco products which makes it SO addictive. Nicotine is addictive but about on par with caffeine.
 
rtmilburn said:
Wrong. It's the beta Carbolines and other alkaloids which significantly potentiate that function of nicotine which creates more highly addictive substance
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So you're saying these patches lacks the beta Carbolines and other alkaloids?

If this is true that nicotine in some form is on the same level as coffee I still don't see the reason to add a substance that can cause addiction to an already unhealthy steroid cycle or add to life in general.. It's not like nicotine will shred you up anyways.

Talking about vaping. Isn't nicotine reduced by like 1000% compared to a cigarette?
 
YoungThor said:
He’s talked about in the past tense. Whatever happened to him?
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In the thread that we were discussing taking a serm on cycle to prevent shutdown he got annoyed/pissed and said he wouldn't talk on the forum anymore. He did say that he would respond to PM's. He's got a bit of a temper/attitude problem... that's it.

Btw why complicate with such a weird cycle? I mean srsly?? Nicotine lol This just sounds so unorthodox that it must work right? Right babe? What ever it takes...
 
YoungThor said:
What’s the point of the hydrocortisone anyway? I used to put Preparation H on my butthole and it never helped me lose fat haha.
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It breaks down tissue, that's why it works well for a stinging butt.
Easiest way to think of it is, it works closer to the opposite end of the scale than insulin in this case.
With an oral half-life of 100 mins.
 
Jinsun said:
In the thread that we were discussing taking a serm on cycle to prevent shutdown he got annoyed/pissed and said he wouldn't talk on the forum anymore. He did say that he would respond to PM's. He's got a bit of a temper/attitude problem... that's it.

Btw why complicate with such a weird cycle? I mean srsly?? Nicotine lol This just sounds so unorthodox that it must work right? Right babe? What ever it takes...
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Mainly an interest in understanding hormone synergies.
 
I’d run this if I weren’t an ex-smoker. I could replace the nicotine patch with caffeine gum. I also have to look up the side effects of oral hydrocortisone.
 
YoungThor said:
I’d run this if I weren’t an ex-smoker. I could replace the nicotine patch with caffeine gum. I also have to look up the side effects of oral hydrocortisone.
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This is a good start.
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If your still on your cut try ECA anyways, I like it.
 
YoungThor said:
What’s his bulking plan? Is that where he suggests anavar with 30 grams of creatine a day?
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Yeah, these were his recommendations for cutting and bulking.
He was on his own version of a blast and cruise as well.
 
Newth said:
This is a good start.
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If your still on your cut try ECA anyways, I like it.
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I read three side effects and got scared. I just took a two week break during my cut where I didn’t concern myself with it and now I’m gonna continue. Surprisingly my weight stayed the same.
 
Chados said:
So you're saying these patches lacks the beta Carbolines and other alkaloids?

If this is true that nicotine in some form is on the same level as coffee I still don't see the reason to add a substance that can cause addiction to an already unhealthy steroid cycle or add to life in general.. It's not like nicotine will shred you up anyways.

Talking about vaping. Isn't nicotine reduced by like 1000% compared to a cigarette?
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Actually Vapes usually have a higher dose of nicotine due to the lack of the other stuff. Also nicotine has more fatburnering potential than caffeine. Sooooo.
 
rtmilburn said:
Actually Vapes usually have a higher dose of nicotine due to the lack of the other stuff. Also nicotine has more fatburnering potential than caffeine. Sooooo.
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Sure that could very well be true but we're still adding something we get addicted to which by itself isn't good and the amount of fat burning or the lack of hunger does absolutely not justify the use of nicotine.

The vape thing I only know has different dosages and some without nicotine.
 
Chados said:
See you get it. I got nothing against weed but from what I see the main users are kids or people with nothing going on and that's just how it is. Had alcohol been illegal it would be the same I would guess. Now it's changing drastically in USA since it's being legalized a lot of the average Joes out there are smoking it too. Maybe in 10 years weed will be more accepted than alcohol
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In the bigger picture I totally agree.
I'm getting to the end of a deliberate 18 month bender to to grasp my past a little differently and try some ideas.
Not something I would recommend but it opened my mind a little.
The world is changing and so is the war on drugs.
 
Newth said:
In the bigger picture I totally agree.
I'm getting to the end of a deliberate 18 month bender to to grasp my past a little differently and try some ideas.
Not something I would recommend but it opened my mind a little.
The world is changing and so is the war on drugs.
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Yes and hopefully in the states they stop chasing thugs while getting shot over weed.. It's just not right.
 
Tobacco free dip is the best thing ever. All the focus from Nicotine but none of the nastiness from Tobacco, it helps me get through crunch times at work.
 
Newth said:
Probably a Paraguayan street name for menthol's. :D
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Here street names are mostly of conquistadors, that enslaved the populace in the past, and are now venerated for it.

World is crazy....

I need a vodka, urgently....not in the best mood today.
 
nicotine and caffeine is pretty effective stacked together, as long as you don't have cardiac issues

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prolly sucks to come off of, tho.





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hairygrandpa said:
Here street names are mostly of conquistadors, that enslaved the populace in the past, and are now venerated for it.

World is crazy....

I need a vodka, urgently....not in the best mood today.
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Speaking of Paraguayan streets, how's you face?
You thread is growing to fast for me to keep up.
 
Newth said:
It breaks down tissue, that's why it works well for a stinging butt.
Easiest way to think of it is, it works closer to the opposite end of the scale than insulin in this case.
With an oral half-life of 100 mins.
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it's an anti-inflammatory, as well.

large doses of anti-inflammatory drugs can also reduce the training induced adaptations to exercise.....

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.EDIT: side note: Lance Armstrong's team allegedly took a ton of that during the Tour to reduce inflammation so they could keep up their pace, dealing with pain/injuries, etc.




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hairygrandpa said:
In for the ment!
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On that note, after your posted about EQ in another thread yesterday and thinking about 1-test.
I got to thinking about trest being a substrate to armatize itself and got me wondering if DHN could have any influence in this process at all.
I have no idea, it was just a random thought.
 
Newth said:
On that note, after your posted about EQ in another thread yesterday and thinking about 1-test.
I got to thinking about trest being a substrate to armatize itself and got me wondering if DHN could have any influence in this process at all.
I have no idea, it was just a random thought.
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No idea -and what is DHN? Dehydrated Nipple ?
 
hairygrandpa said:
I don't know anything about those fancy compounds, must be PH's, right?
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DHB is the new compound people are calling 1-test cyp.
When boldernone(EQ) is converted by the 5a reductase enzyme it converts into DHB(DiHydroBoldernone) like test converts into DHT except DHB is a far superior compound for building muscle and blocking the aromatease enzyme.
Some nandrolones will do the same thing creating DHN, which from what I gather is a very weak DHT like compound.
 
Newth said:
DHB is the new compound people are calling 1-test cyp.
When boldernone(EQ) is converted by the 5a reductase enzyme it converts into DHB(DiHydroBoldernone) like test converts into DHT except DHB is a far superior compound for building muscle and blocking the aromatease enzyme.
Some nandrolones will do the same thing creating DHN, which from what I gather is a very weak DHT like compound.
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Well, I'm going to try IM S-Drol next, people are hyping about it.
 
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