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This ^^^ is 100% true everything from HGH to TB-500 to IGF1 is so fragile that every company decided to just sell pump in a vile rather than properly handling these peptides. DarthGainer I realize you're not an idiot. Just like I used to be, you have the solid opinion that all RC and UGL companies are shilling out crap in a vile! LR3 and DES are just different chemical analogues to produce a desired effect. Very similar to a ESTER on a steroid molecule. It is just a tiny tweak in the chain of amino acid to produce the desired effect. I'm not even going to try to convince you. If you want to give it a try PM me. I'm not a rep or anything. I am a guy who just like you knows that 99% of IGF is BS and I wrote this post both to inform other haters like you and me that their is an actual company that sells TRUE IGF1 !!! I thought it was worth telling everyone about it. I am also in a unique position because I have tried Pharma IGF1 about 6-7 years ago and I know what the real stuff is that is why I posted this info.
Im not a fan lr3. As having chronic igf-1 stimulation would prevent mgf from doing its thing, and mgf is just as anabolic and possibly more so than igf-1. Its about balance. let mgf cause proliferation and igf-1 cause differentiation, while anabolics cause maturation. When this is in perfect harmony the results are amazing, and lr3 would prevent this. Now des is a different story.

Hgh with des and gear is the way to go if you can afford it.
 
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Im not a fan lr3. As having chronic igf-1 stimulation would prevent mgf from doing its thing, and mgf is just as anabolic and possibly more so than igf-1. Its about balance. let mgf cause proliferation and igf-1 cause differentiation, while anabolics cause maturation. When this is in perfect harmony the results are amazing, and lr3 would prevent this. Now des is a different story.

Hgh with des and gear is the way to go if you can afford it.
I totally agree about HGH+IGF+Gear+ hardwork= AMAZING results....This company also sells unadvertised products ummmm gh and I supply to my boys that can afford that recipe. I on the other hand have a recipe of Gear+IGFsometimes+hardwork always= good results cuz I have good genetics and don't mind doing gross **** like drinking 8 eggs eating 2 cans tuna out of can and washing down with milk and protein powder. So far I have stuck with DES but there is a way to mix both and it's somewhere in my evernotes but if I remember you run LR3 through end of cycle/PCT/ and then pulse DES while taking a break from LR3 while off cycle. To be honest I wish I knew a guru cuz other that having a good knowledge of the diff compounds and ALL their effects I truly can't say "Do this, do that, start on this, then switch to that" I just know how to add the proper amounts to get your best results.

One day I will be able to afford that trio. Sometimes when I'm hooking up my boys I think umm maybe they won't realize 2 HGH viles missing LOL but I'm not that kind of guy.
 
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I totally agree about HGH+IGF+Gear+ hardwork= AMAZING results....This company also sells unadvertised products ummmm gh and I supply to my boys that can afford that recipe. I on the other hand have a recipe of Gear+IGFsometimes+hardwork always= good results cuz I have good genetics and don't mind doing gross **** like drinking 8 eggs eating 2 cans tuna out of can and washing down with milk and protein powder. So far I have stuck with DES but there is a way to mix both and it's somewhere in my evernotes but if I remember you run LR3 through end of cycle/PCT/ and then pulse DES while taking a break from LR3 while off cycle. To be honest I wish I knew a guru cuz other that having a good knowledge of the diff compounds and ALL their effects I truly can't say "Do this, do that, start on this, then switch to that" I just know how to add the proper amounts to get your best results.

One day I will be able to afford that trio. Sometimes when I'm hooking up my boys I think umm maybe they won't realize 2 HGH viles missing LOL but I'm not that kind of guy.
I totally agree about HGH+IGF+Gear+ hardwork= AMAZING results....This company also sells unadvertised products ummmm gh and I supply to my boys that can afford that recipe. I on the other hand have a recipe of Gear+IGFsometimes+hardwork always= good results cuz I have good genetics and don't mind doing gross **** like drinking 8 eggs eating 2 cans tuna out of can and washing down with milk and protein powder. So far I have stuck with DES but there is a way to mix both and it's somewhere in my evernotes but if I remember you run LR3 through end of cycle/PCT/ and then pulse DES while taking a break from LR3 while off cycle. To be honest I wish I knew a guru cuz other that having a good knowledge of the diff compounds and ALL their effects I truly can't say "Do this, do that, start on this, then switch to that" I just know how to add the proper amounts to get your best results.

One day I will be able to afford that trio. Sometimes when I'm hooking up my boys I think umm maybe they won't realize 2 HGH viles missing LOL but I'm not that kind of guy.
I personally would never use or recommend lr3 more than 1 week with atleast a month off be using it again. Nor would i use des or rIGF-1 postworkout. Those are best used in the morning and especially preworkout. If one insists on uses either postworkout use it atleast 5 hours after, imo, as doing so would interfere with mgf way to much.
 
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So I am completely making this up from my sketchy memory but what you do is start the cycle with small dose of LR3 and you pin des ontop for the first 2 weeks then you break for 1 week, then you pin only DES for remainder of cycle [ If 12 weeks] then on the waiting period/pre PCT [which I don't believe in] you start LR3 and continue LR3 through PCT. Then you break for a week or 2 post PCT and pin LR3 with DES for a week then break for a week then repeat. This is probably a horrible recollection of the actual regiment but it has a similar type of dosing. The main thing I remember is it's very precise and complicated but supposedly it keeps your muscles growing through and after PCT. That is the only reason I keep bringing up LR3 for the long term effect without the help of gear.
 
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So I am completely making this up from my sketchy memory but what you do is start the cycle with small dose of LR3 and you pin des ontop for the first 2 weeks then you break for 1 week, then you pin only DES for remainder of cycle [ If 12 weeks] then on the waiting period/pre PCT [which I don't believe in] you start LR3 and continue LR3 through PCT. Then you break for a week or 2 post PCT and pin LR3 with DES for a week then break for a week then repeat. This is probably a horrible recollection of the actual regiment but it has a similar type of dosing. The main thing I remember is it's very precise and complicated but supposedly it keeps your muscles growing through and after PCT. That is the only reason I keep bringing up LR3 for the long term effect without the help of gear.
Could work. I have not read too much into this recently tbh. So I going of my memories from atleast a year ago as well.
 
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Im not a fan lr3. As having chronic igf-1 stimulation would prevent mgf from doing its thing, and mgf is just as anabolic and possibly more so than igf-1. Its about balance. let mgf cause proliferation and igf-1 cause differentiation, while anabolics cause maturation. When this is in perfect harmony the results are amazing, and lr3 would prevent this. Now des is a different story.

Hgh with des and gear is the way to go if you can afford it.
I love mgf
But the igf mgf combo is even more amazing.
 

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Prescription Igf-1 and igf-1 lr3 are not the same thing. As far as I'm aware igf-1 lr3 is used in a therapeutic setting.
 
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The OP of this thread died unfortunately guys
 
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A friend of his got on here with his phone and said he had. He was younger than I am too. The friend referenced his use of steroids and RC’s that he used that were not for human consumption.
 
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A friend of his got on here with his phone and said he had. He was younger than I am too. The friend referenced his use of steroids and RC’s that he used that were not for human consumption.
Oh i see... I just jumped recently on this thread and read the first like 20 30 posts.
 
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A friend of his got on here with his phone and said he had. He was younger than I am too. The friend referenced his use of steroids and RC’s that he used that were not for human consumption.
can you link it? i would like to read it
 
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I hope it’s just a prank but I don’t think so. Really kind of shytty.

He was super nice and helpful. PM’d me a ton and was really cool.
 
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I hope it’s just a prank but I don’t think so. Really kind of shytty.

He was super nice and helpful. PM’d me a ton and was really cool.
I hope it's not real too tho. I didnt know him, but still it's not something to be happy about
Thanks for the link man!
 
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FRITZBLITZZ;6033862]I am writing from the phone of my Dear friend who liked this site. He died 2 weeks ago. He was only 35 and yes he was taking steroids. Lots of bottles labeled "not for human consumption". He died from a heart attack. I found this site on his phone.
 
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FRITZBLITZZ;6033862]I am writing from the phone of my Dear friend who liked this site. He died 2 weeks ago. He was only 35 and yes he was taking steroids. Lots of bottles labeled "not for human consumption". He died from a heart attack. I found this site on his phone.
I see... It really is kinda shtty... May he rest in peace at least
 
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Naw......really.
Well I know he was on tons of meds.
I got his real name somewhere.
Ill try and find it
 
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Definitely was a good guy
 
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I only have his old address old phone number. When he moved to Colorado he got a new phone I don't have that number. But I have his real name let me find it
 
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Victor Kowalski was his real name if anybody knows how to check. Untill then I'm calling bull****. Probably fukd somebody up and wants to hide or something
 
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Victor Kowalski was his real name if anybody knows how to check. Untill then I'm calling bull****. Probably fukd somebody up and wants to hide or something
Maybe... But if he really used these extraordinary amounts of rc's who knows...
 
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Maybe... But if he really used these extraordinary amounts of rc's who knows...
I have vials and bottles of weird stuff a over my room.
1. I'm not using all of them at once.
2. I don't keep empty ones
 
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I only have his old address old phone number. When he moved to Colorado he got a new phone I don't have that number. But I have his real name let me find it
where did he live before Colorado? also what town in Colorado did he move to? found a few 38 Victor Kowalski who've died.
 
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where did he live before Colorado? also what town in Colorado did he move to? found a few 38 Victor Kowalski who've died.
palm springs first I think but I got rid of that info

fort Collins CO 80525
 
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palm springs first I think but I got rid of that info

fort Collins CO 80525
Havent found any obit's for 35 yr old Victor Kowalski anywhere
 
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Havent found any obit's for 35 yr old Victor Kowalski anywhere
oh he was 35. I thought I was 38. Ya I check like 8 different sources there is no death of that name in the last year for a 35 year old in any state.
 
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I new it was BS.....at least I'm pretty sure.
All I know is I've been in trouble before and I thought " if only I could take my death" like Elvis and MJ.
 
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But dude was on quite a bit of meds.
He boozed it up a little too.

Hey Frittz. If your reading this hit me up.
 
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But dude was on quite a bit of meds.
He boozed it up a little too.

Hey Frittz. If your reading this hit me up.
oh I liked him a ton. great dude hope the best either way.
 
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Let us know, CG.

He was super cool to me, and he didn’t really have to be, hadn’t been on here in a year. I know most of us don’t “know” each other in real life, but this is the closest thing I have to intelligent like-minded friends with goals similar to mine. And lately, seeing how many of us have struggled with addiction as well, some even struggling themselves and still offering support, AM has become an escape that has kept me sane and sober at times. So, I wish the best for all of you on here that have been so cool about stuff and offered advice and guidance. ✌
 
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Let us know, CG.

He was super cool to me, and he didn’t really have to be, hadn’t been on here in a year. I know most of us don’t “know” each other in real life, but this is the closest thing I have to intelligent like-minded friends with goals similar to mine. And lately, seeing how many of us have struggled with addiction as well, some even struggling themselves and still offering support, AM has become an escape that has kept me sane and sober at times. So, I wish the best for all of you on here that have been so cool about stuff and offered advice and guidance.
feel the same way.
 
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Freaking 10-11 pm this site falls apart though..
 
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AZ. It’s brutal right about 10:15-11. I usually just avoid. Nothing loads or posts.
 

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ALL of the raw IGF right now in the US is made in China in UG labs. If your source says - made in USA he means raw is Chinese , pucks vials and all is made here. the truth is currently there are really good UG labs in China form which the stuff IGF , HGH and others comes close to human grade , but sitting on a shelf in a warehouse at 100'F for months overseas and then 3 weeks shipping - u got a good chance of deterioration. Nevertheless Chinese made vials are higher quality - vacuum, pucks etc. The 2 domestic sources of hgh i ve tried (popular ones) are very inconsistent with their products - sometimes vacuumed, sometimes not and others.
As far as IGF - idk what to tell - I first tried it in 2009 bought vials from 4 different suppliers and only one of them showed good quality judging by the insane pump I got in quads after 2 sets of squat - I couldn't continue training, I couldn't squat without weight even, because my muscles were going to rip through the skin. this happened from first shot of 100mcg before workout. tried the rest of the vials on different days with no change in diet or gear use with no results.. Of course back then the only if I had was to mix it with a certain solution of acetic acid and was told if i make it slightly more acidic it will destroy the igf, so I might ve messed up too. I havent used t since then but know very well the IGF pumps from HGH+slin combo.
Just got a few vials of IGF-1LR3 and will test and see what happens. Today did 500mcg split in 3 shots during the day. Nothing unusual during workout. Blood sugar s been in the upper 80s( currently consuming low to medium carbs fro my weight) which is a bit lower than my normal when i m on HGH. ( i am still on gear and GH). Trying to purposely do a higher dose to check if there is at least something, cuz the chances it will be 1mg as it says on the vial are impossible, unless they dosed it last week at 1.3mg and after 3 days of shipping it deteriorated to 1mg (LR3 is very unstable, even a louder sound vibration will destroy it). Of course LR3 takes longer to get an effect so we will see. I have to do blood work on Monday because i m off gh sat and sun and if i test it now it might show the IGF caused by the GH. after reviewing the source , didnt see very good reviews but most of the ppl have reviewed other peptides like ostarene and YK-11 - stuff that i dont even acknowledge as being effective compared to real gear.
 

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Bro can someone PM me that legit source for igf 1
 

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