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Test base options

^^^^ this. Theres also weaker products that somr say work. 4 andro, epiandro, dermacrine, or also ( i wouldnt recommend for a beginner though) trestolone. Trest is not a beginner product and shouldnt be taken lightly. If left unchecked the estrogen sides can be hard to control
 
^^^^ this. Theres also weaker products that somr say work. 4 andro, epiandro, dermacrine, or also ( i wouldnt recommend for a beginner though) trestolone. Trest is not a beginner product and shouldnt be taken lightly. If left unchecked the estrogen sides can be hard to control
In my experience though nothing works like test. Trest does great too but some people cant handle the sides
 
I think if more people would understand how strong trest really is they would realize why they get bad estrogen sides. 5-10mg a day of trest ace is all you need as a "base"
 
I think if more people would understand how strong trest really is they would realize why they get bad estrogen sides. 5-10mg a day of trest ace is all you need as a "base"
Yeah i think this is true. I never had estro sides on it. I never dosed high either
 
In the 1970’s, bodybuilders used dbol as a test base, but that’s unheard of today.

D-bol is a boldenone like EQ but where EQ is like a slow DHT and has an AI effect D-bol has more a Test like effect and coverts into estrogen.
I think if more people would understand how strong trest really is they would realize why they get bad estrogen sides. 5-10mg a day of trest ace is all you need as a "base"
Trest seems to be two sided, kinda like test, an anabolic and a base.
 
Dermacrine would be just fine I'm sure. Marms reps for Iconic Formulations
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$37.50 gets you a test base

Who's 1 Andro you using? What's your PCT?
 
What dose of Dermatrest would work as a test base?

I used 100 per day applied am/pm - no sides and worked well (felt awesome on it).

I used 4-Andro with 1-andro and felt it did an ok job tbh - that’s the way I’d go if pinning test not an option
 
If your not using actual test I would go dermacrine. It gives you all the mental boosts of test although none of the anabolic boosts.
 
Test base or suspension needs to be shot like every 3hours not worth it. Pre workout its ok but a cycle of test base ull b a pin cushion
 
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